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a340pilot
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Are Airliners Getting Better?

Sun Sep 28, 2003 1:12 pm

Is it the aircraft that is getting better, or are the mechanics getting smarter, or is it the hightend security checks at the airports? Look at this list of "Fatal commercial air crashes over the last 20 years:

1984- 14
1985- 26
1986- 22
1987- 25
1988- 33
1989- 37
1990- 23
1991- 30
1992- 23
1993- 21
1994- 27
1995- 27
1996- 25
1997- 25
1998- 23
1999- 33
2000- 29
2001- 38
2002- 36
2003- 13 (upto September 26th)

Keeping in mind, that these are only Fatal Airline accidents, not including cessnas, private planes etc. What has changed so much that we are having the best year in aviation. (p.s. this source comes from http://www.airdisaster.com/cgi_bin/database.cgi airdisaster.net) What is your opinion?

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RE: Are Airliners Getting Better?

Sun Sep 28, 2003 1:16 pm

uhm forgive me, but the avergae seems to be 26.5 crashes. To me thats ALOT, and My answer would be NO the airlines are not getting better. however I will admit that 2003 has been a good year so far. Is this world wide? or just USA? Because USA-2002 saw NO FATAL AIRLINE CRASHES!!!-I think.?

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a340pilot
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RE: Are Airliners Getting Better?

Sun Sep 28, 2003 1:21 pm

Yes sir! You are correct!  Big thumbs up There were no fatal airline crashes in the USA, and no these facts are world wide. Yes the average is about 26 so lets cross our fingers for 3 more months

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RE: Are Airliners Getting Better?

Sun Sep 28, 2003 1:29 pm

I thought that was World wide, thinking it was USA made some of these not make any sense. But seeing it was world wide it does. The only USA one I can think of is US Airways express prop out of CLT I think. That would be the only major airline fatality in the USA.

Yes, lets hope for 3 more months of nothing happening ::KNOCK ON WOOD!!!::

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RE: Are Airliners Getting Better?

Sun Sep 28, 2003 1:33 pm

How about the fact that a large percentage of airlines cancelled thousands of flights due to SARS outbreak?

While it may be a little too simple to link the two together, statistically, I'm sure you could find some evidence that SARS *may* have contributed to a lower accident rate. Particularlly because a large number of flights cancelled were from the Asia region.

To put it simply, less flights = less percentage of accident chance. Worth considering anyhow...

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a340pilot
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RE: Are Airliners Getting Better?

Sun Sep 28, 2003 1:40 pm

Yes that's true but sars wasn't evident for the entire 9 months, and inter country air travel only dropped a bit, International flights were defiantly affected, but I have flown to Toronto 2 times on westjet from Vancouver and once on jetsgo and only one of the flights had less than 70 people on it. And that was in the height of SARS. (and just FYI: I was very scared to fly there!)

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RE: Are Airliners Getting Better?

Sun Sep 28, 2003 1:46 pm

FlyKal, good point. Its pretty creepy to think that way though. Of all the crashes that never happened because of the cancellation of all those flights. Think if you were a person who otherwise would've died in a plane crash but due to SARS you didn't fly and don't even know it would've happened.
 
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RE: Are Airliners Getting Better?

Sun Sep 28, 2003 1:54 pm

You might also consider though that the advancements in cockpit technology on newer airliners, plus new ATC technology, go a long way in preventing accidents, more efficiently than in the past.

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