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737-300 Vs. A319

Sat Oct 04, 2003 1:13 pm

From a passengers point of view, the Airbus offers a more comfortable flying experience....there's no denying that, with the wider cabin, more modern interior, and IFE. However, I'll always be partial to the 733. I had about an hour and a half of some quality time on a 733 today while it was on the ground...first time on the aircraft in some time...enjoyed every minute of it. Many captains that I talk to say that nothing flies like a Boeing...classic stick and rudder plane. In flight, I find the Airbus to be almost too "smooth" for me. The plane cuts through turbulence like a warm knife through butter. The 737 tends to be a little less perfect in this area...which is a good thing...you get more of a "flying feel". Don't get me wrong, A319 aircraft are great workhorses. But in many cases, newer doesn't automatically make it better.

So...which do you prefer, Boeing's 737-300 or the Airbus A319, two aircraft which pretty much compliment each other in terms of capacity and effiency?


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RE: 737-300 Vs. A319

Sat Oct 04, 2003 1:28 pm

I will always be partial to the 737's. I enjoy flying on them over the A319/320. When I worked for an airline the A319/A320 always seemed to give us more issues then the Boeings ever did. As one co-worker one said the airbus just looks cheap.
 
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RE: 737-300 Vs. A319

Sat Oct 04, 2003 1:31 pm

The 737's.


You don't need GSE equptment to load the bellies.

The Boeing has more room accross the shoulders, and you don't notice that alleged 3 inches at the floor.

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RE: 737-300 Vs. A319

Sat Oct 04, 2003 1:47 pm

I never thought i would read what you two have posted, but i must agree! If you are really looking at enjoying the true virtue of flight, there is perhaps no better aircraft than the Boeing 737. I have flown the Boeing 737-300 many times, and the experience was always pleasant. Meanwhile, though the Airbus 320 family is an engineering wonder, it would tend to satisfy the customer that doesn't like flying. Reduced cabin noise and turbulence makes the flight somewhat boring.

I even enjoyed the Air Canada Boeing 737-200.

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RE: 737-300 Vs. A319

Sat Oct 04, 2003 2:10 pm

Gimme a B737 anyday. I dont care if its a -100 or a -900, the Boeing 737 is "Simply the Best".
I would take any B737 over an A318/319/320/321 anyday. I must admit, the A32x is a very nice aircraft, but the Boeing 737 is the best aircraft ever built.

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RE: 737-300 Vs. A319

Sat Oct 04, 2003 2:21 pm


I like where the 733 fits in the the whole 737 family lineage. Young enough to be stage 3 from inception --no unsightly and only-mildly-successful hushkits that most 732s still flying are saddled with nowadays-- while on the other hand 'old' enough to have all the look and feel of "classic Boeing metal". A great little plane in a legendary plane family  Smile


The A319 has much less to to tell wax lyrical about, though I do like the junior-sized look of the "Stubbybus" A319. ( "Li'l Stubby", the A318, having of course an even more pronounced look in this department as well )
 
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RE: 737-300 Vs. A319

Sat Oct 04, 2003 2:36 pm

I prefer the A319. The cabin is wider than the B733 and there's been no "mystery crashes."
 
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RE: 737-300 Vs. A319

Sat Oct 04, 2003 2:39 pm

I prefer the A319. The cabin is wider than the B733

I doubt any passenger can discern the very small difference in cabin width.

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RE: 737-300 Vs. A319

Sat Oct 04, 2003 2:41 pm

Just wait awhile IndustrialPate.
 
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RE: 737-300 Vs. A319

Sat Oct 04, 2003 3:11 pm

I always try to choose A320 series over the B737 Classics, if possible. The 737 Classics are noisy and cold (seems that the insulation in the walls is not very efficient) inside.

The B737NGs are much better than Classics, but still I find myself choosing the A320 series.

In widebodies, I do not have any preference between B & A products. B767, B777, B747, A330 and A340, anything goes. Even the MD11  Smile.

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RE: 737-300 Vs. A319

Sat Oct 04, 2003 3:12 pm

I doubt any passenger can discern the very small difference in cabin width.

I'm not a big person, but I can certainly tell that the seats in A320-family aircraft are wider than those in B737-family ...
 
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RE: 737-300 Vs. A319

Sat Oct 04, 2003 3:34 pm

IndustrialPate,

I prefer the A319. The cabin is wider than the B733 and there's been no "mystery crashes."

SRD737NG,

Just wait awhile IndustrialPate.

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RE: 737-300 Vs. A319

Sat Oct 04, 2003 3:40 pm

If I were to choose I'd always take the B737 series, I don't like the A320 series in bad weather conditions (thunderstorms and heavy rain). Cabinwise they both bring me comfortably from A to B.
 
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RE: 737-300 Vs. A319

Sat Oct 04, 2003 3:47 pm

I'm not a big person, but I can certainly tell that the seats in A320-family aircraft are wider than those in B737-family ...

I thought that NWA used the same seat width throughout the fleet; maybe I'm wrong...
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RE: 737-300 Vs. A319

Sat Oct 04, 2003 4:20 pm

I prefer the 737-300 over the A319. The A319 looks too short and stubby. However if the choice was between A320 V 737-400 i would take the A320.
 
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RE: 737-300 Vs. A319

Sun Oct 05, 2003 4:41 am

My first flight on both was very pleasant and memorable. From the outside I definitely like the Airbus better, as the engine nacelles aren't squashed at the bottom like the 737, and I also like the winglets. As for the interior, that depends on the individual airline, but it was on an Airbus that I first saw the LCD screens that folded down from the ceiling. Since then I've seen them on 737NG's as well, although as far as I can tell there's no reason the airlines couldn't put them on their older 737's if they wanted. Also I would love the wider seats, although I don't remember if United (the only 2 times I've been on an Airbus so far) uses them on theirs.
 
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RE: 737-300 Vs. A319

Sun Oct 05, 2003 4:45 am

thought that NWA used the same seat width throughout the fleet; maybe I'm wrong...

The A319/A320 are about 0.5" wider in First compared to the B757.
 
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RE: 737-300 Vs. A319

Sun Oct 05, 2003 4:48 am

Wasn't the 737-300 what Delta Express flew? Sorry, but I'd fly a US Airways A-319 over a Delta Express 737-300 any day...(not just because I'm not a big Delta fan)
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RE: 737-300 Vs. A319

Sun Oct 05, 2003 5:33 am

I like both... but if I want to sleep on a short haul connection after a long haul flight, I'd pick the 737-300... window seat....

I can't rest my head on the wall/window properly on the bus  Sad

Haven't been on the 319, 320 was good, the 321 was a nightmare... Haven't been on NGs either...

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RE: 737-300 Vs. A319

Sun Oct 05, 2003 6:07 am

I have flown on A few A319's by Croatia Airlines and they are very smooth and comfortable and I have flown a few B737-300 with United, Lufthansa and Southwest and I rather be on a B737-300 better. the 737 is not so perfect and I feel more comfortable on one of those. The 737-300 is my favorite 737 version. However the 737-800 is in second place.
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RE: 737-300 Vs. A319

Sun Oct 05, 2003 7:14 am

DLX flew 732s.


I always avoid the 737 when possible. I've given Delta and DL Shuttle's 738s several chances, the cabin is just plain uncomfortable. That's of course DL's fault not Boeings, but still.

The reality is that most A320s are better appointed than any 737-300 you could find, and, as such, I avoid them like the plague.

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RE: 737-300 Vs. A319

Sun Oct 05, 2003 7:29 am

The A319 has a smoother, quieter ride, and the airlines usually equip them with IFE. However, nothing beats a classic 737.
 
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RE: 737-300 Vs. A319

Sun Oct 05, 2003 7:38 am

I too notice the increased width of the A32x series vs. the 737x. How much is it? I don't think it's a matter of the seat width - I think just the extra width of the interior makes it feel more spacious.

That said, I don't think that there is one that I like "more". The Airbus does feel modern and new, but the 737 is a classic!

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RE: 737-300 Vs. A319

Sun Oct 05, 2003 7:51 am

The A319/A320 are about 0.5" wider in First compared to the B757.

Thanks for the clarification!

As far as I'm concerned, a lot of my enjoyment of the flight had to do with the interior design. I felt a lot "happier" on the Airbus (seemed to have a brighter, more ergonomic interior) than the older 737s, but once the 737's started to get new cabins (a la 737NG) it really balanced the two out from a pax standpoint. I don't really see much difference between them nowadays.
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RE: 737-300 Vs. A319

Sun Oct 05, 2003 7:59 am

I prefer the A319. The cabin is wider than the B733 and there's been no "mystery crashes."

LOL. Ditto that.
 
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RE: 737-300 Vs. A319

Sun Oct 05, 2003 8:04 am

MSYtristar:

The IFE you mention is trivial. Any airline can equip the a/c how they want.

You could, but will probably never see:

American Eagle retools the Embraer:


"Now passengers get all business class seats with their own 398-channel direct TV system for all Eagle Flights"

"Only 1 seat per aisle, a total of 10 passengers and a dedicated flight crew with a 4 person cabin crew offering complimentary cocktails and 3-course meal service for all flights over 30 minutes"

"Now American Eagle is the best regional airline!"


That is an egregious example, but makes a point. Look at the NW 319s - there is no IFE, the width of the cabin is placed to make the aisle wider (nice), but wider seats are nicer.

737-800 - best a/c in my book. DL Equips them nice. IFE, decent seat pitch, nice overhead bins, quiet, quick, on-time.

Add winglets, and I like it even more (The ATA 737NGs are sweet).

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RE: 737-300 Vs. A319

Sun Oct 05, 2003 8:04 am

737s are easier to fuel than the A320 series. The wing on the A320 is higher on the fuselage, one of the reasons that the nacelle isn't squished. As a result, I have to get on the top step of a 6ft ladder to reach the 'bus, but I can go two ladder stepps lower for a 737's single point adapter. How's that for a different perspective? I'm short  Smile

As far as flying, I enjoy anything that burns jet fuel. But I do agree that an old 737 is more fun from an aviator's perspective because you feel and hear more. I'd still take a 727 any day though.
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RE: 737-300 Vs. A319

Sun Oct 05, 2003 8:07 am

There is a major difference in comfort compared to the two. I would much rather sit in an Airbus for 5 hours than a 737 NG...the seats are much better. I flew from PHX-CLE in a CO 738 and had a window seat....I couldn't get comfortable to save my life! I flew SNA-PHX on a 320 in a MIDDLE seat and I was more comfortable than in a window on the 737. The cabin environment is much more spacious and open. I love the 737's but not for long haul flying...they weren't intended for that.
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RE: 737-300 Vs. A319

Sun Oct 05, 2003 8:11 am

Flyboyaz:

Airbus doesn't make airplane seats, they make airplanes.

It all revolves around how the airline chooses to equip the aircraft.
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RE: 737-300 Vs. A319

Sun Oct 05, 2003 8:14 am

If you tried to fit an Airbus seat in a 737 you would have very little aisle left....again, there's no comparision in comfort. Airbus is the winner.
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RE: 737-300 Vs. A319

Sun Oct 05, 2003 8:16 am

I'm certainly no fan of Airbus.... but they really hit it on the head with the A32x. I prefer it over the 737, any day.
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RE: 737-300 Vs. A319

Sun Oct 05, 2003 8:17 am

I prefer [the A320 family] over the 737, any day.

I think somebody's posting under ConcordeBoy's ID...
 
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RE: 737-300 Vs. A319

Sun Oct 05, 2003 8:26 am

Oh he's just a bitch most of the time.

He loves the A320 and will pay extra to fly on it... he thinks the A330-200 is a majestic aircraft, and he thinks that the A380 is the 8th wonder of the world.

He just likes to whine when his 777 isn't winning every last order.

 Laugh out loud

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RE: 737-300 Vs. A319

Sun Oct 05, 2003 8:33 am

What ya talking about, I love all aircraft!

...I just dont think that A340s merit to be called "aircraft"... future beverage containment units is a more accurate description Big grin  Big grin  Big grin
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RE: 737-300 Vs. A319

Sun Oct 05, 2003 12:31 pm

I'm not a big person, but I can certainly tell that the seats in A320-family aircraft are wider than those in B737-family ...

That depends on the operator, doesn't it? Since I couldn't get my sister-in-law upgraded Thursday on DTW-PVD, I rode in back with her (the horror!), and the seats on the NW A320 seemed to be exactly the seats on their Boeings...

I'd rather have the shoulder space than a 1/2" wider seat, though.

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RE: 737-300 Vs. A319

Sun Oct 05, 2003 12:35 pm

Its really a tough call all around. A DC-9 on Northwest is very different than another operator. Its very 717 like and clean.

A US Airways 737-300 is barely an aircraft compared to a US Airways A320.

A Western Pacific 737-300 was always much more pleasant than a United 737-300, but a United A320 is usually better than both.

I swear the A320 sets down like a dream every time - but I've had one or two hard landings. I've always experienced bumpy landings in 737s. Is this a real evaluator? Dunno.

Anything else is really just religion.

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RE: 737-300 Vs. A319

Sun Oct 05, 2003 1:25 pm

I prefer 737's over Airbus, but really its all I fly since I am usually flying Southwest, but if I book on a major airline that offeres both the A320 or 737's then i will go for the 737.

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RE: 737-300 Vs. A319

Sun Oct 05, 2003 5:52 pm

I prefer the A320s because of wider seats.
 
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RE: 737-300 Vs. A319

Mon Oct 06, 2003 12:02 am

We shouldn't be comparing the 737-300 versus the A319. The reason is simple: the 733 has relatively short range, while the A319 is capable of USA transcon flights.
 
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RE: 737-300 Vs. A319

Mon Oct 06, 2003 12:23 am

Gigneil, to answer your question about landing a 737 vs Airbus...

I've had some experience of flying both airplanes (737NG and A330) and the 737 is an airplane that you really do fly into the ground when landing. You aim for the runway and fly it into the runway all the way. This doesn't mean that all landings are hard landings, but you may experience a different sensation when comparing to flaring and touching down in an Airbus.

Of course, the other big difference with the Airbus is that throttle is fully automatic until the pilot retards (20-30 feet from the ground). The Airbus principle is that you touch the throttles only twice during the entire flight. Once to initiate takeoff power, and the other time to retard and deploy reverse thrust. Perhaps one could argue that this leaves less chance for pilot error in adjusting power settings for landing when compared with the 737 series.

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RE: 737-300 Vs. A319

Mon Oct 06, 2003 12:35 am

Hard decision to make. I really like Boeing, I like them much more than Airbus but both aircraft are really nice.


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RE: 737-300 Vs. A319

Mon Oct 06, 2003 1:01 am

I had always thought for Boeing to be truly competitive with the Airbus single aisle planes, they should have developed a totally new aircraft to match the 320. Obviously remodeling the old 737 series was far more cost effective but there are still alot of differences as far as technology and comfort are concerned. I imagine down the road they will introduce a brand new plane...perhaps a mini 777 if you will....fly-by-wire and designed all by computer...with larger dimensions like the Airbus. But that will be far away!
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RE: 737-300 Vs. A319

Mon Oct 06, 2003 1:03 am

I think a mini 7E7 will be the path we see taken.

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RE: 737-300 Vs. A319

Mon Oct 06, 2003 5:10 am

I, too, have flown in both SEVERAL times and SEVERAL different carriers. I must agree with PilotPip...I'd take the 727 anyday of the week.

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RE: 737-300 Vs. A319

Mon Oct 06, 2003 5:53 am

How's this for fence sitting:

I like the A319 over the 737-second gen.
But I like the Next Gen 737 better than the airbus.

Haha. But yeah, I find the second gen 737 to be the epitome of boring airplanes.
And everyone who says that the Airbus seat is soo much wider has a screw loose. I have flown both Airbus and Boeings many many times, and my lard butt can't tell the difference between 17 inches and 17.2. That's United's measurements, IIRC.
And, FlyboyAZ, as far as Airbus is concerned, you can cram seven abreast into their A320.. They don't care. Neither does Boeing. Neither company makes seats. It is up to the OPERATOR to decide how wide the seats are. And yeah, the A32X has three inches on the 737... big whoop. What's three inches?

At least Boeing doesn't use Kapton coated wires anymore. Figures that Airbus would.

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RE: 737-300 Vs. A319

Mon Oct 06, 2003 6:00 am

Give me a DC9 or MD80 anyday.

Even talking from a pure passenger perspective - the 2-3 layout wins handsdown regardless of the extra width of the Airbus.

Between the 733 or the A319 - I chose the Airbus - as its still less common than the 733 - lost count of how many flights I have made on the 733 !!

Now if its the 732 your talking about - it wins against the A319 - aircraft should be noisy  Wink/being sarcastic

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RE: 737-300 Vs. A319

Mon Oct 06, 2003 9:37 am

I agree with AA-737-823 the 737-300,400,500 should be 2nd generation they are still modern and donot share alot with the "classics" 100/200. When I think of Classic I think of the 100 and 200, loud and rugged. The casual observer couldnt tell the difference between a 300 and 700 but could between a 200, but between a 733 and 319 i would chose the 733 anyday, I could care less about the "necessities the 319 has" on the flts they typically fly. I have for many years!
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RE: 737-300 Vs. A319

Mon Oct 06, 2003 10:08 am

if not already mentioned, this discussion should really be between the a-320 series and the 737NGs (-600, -700, -800, -900), as the -300 is an older model.

anyone who claims they can tell the difference between the seating in a a-320 and a 737NG just thinks they can; it's pyschosematic. as i (an many others have pointed out), airlines choose the seats, not the manufacturers. anyone willing to do some research will find that smaller, narrower seats are found on both models, and vice versa. it all depends on the customer's (the airline's) preference.
 
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RE: 737-300 Vs. A319

Tue Oct 07, 2003 11:57 am

I have always heard that Airbuses are noiser in the sense that they make funny noises. I was talking to one flight attendant who had been flying for 20 years, and he said that the first time he flew on a bus, he thought the door was going to pop open. I noticed that upon approach in a 777 (the door over the wing) was poping and snapping like crazy. Has anyone else noticed any weird sounds with the airbuses or all airplanes in general?
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