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Did UA Flight 93/175 Passengers Hear The ATC?

Sun Oct 05, 2003 7:31 am

Hi everyone. I was reading a trip report about someone flying United and on there they said they heard the ATC on channel 9, which made me think about something with 9/11/01. I wonder if you passengers on UA flight 93 or on UA flight 175 tuned into channel 9 and heard the ATC asking the flight to squawk and etc etc. Was this ever noted that it happened? Maybe someone knows?

Any answer is appreicated.

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RE: Did UA Flight 93/175 Passengers Hear The ATC?

Sun Oct 05, 2003 7:44 am

On the UA flights that I have had, the ATC conversations were turned off even during routine climbing and approach. So, I would assume that, on the planes in question, the broadcasting was turned off at first signs of abnormality.

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RE: Did UA Flight 93/175 Passengers Hear The ATC?

Sun Oct 05, 2003 7:54 am

Dulles:

I've had in-flight ATC turned on (post 9/11) from just after gate pushback to clearing active taxiway.

Any FAs or FOs know the answer to this topic?? This is very interesting!!!
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RE: Did UA Flight 93/175 Passengers Hear The ATC?

Sun Oct 05, 2003 8:07 am

Dulles, I seriously doubt the pilot remembered to switch off channel nine on 175 or 93. I can't see him having the though process, "Hmmm...Hijacking. This must be a problem. I better switch off channel 9 so we don't alarm the passengers."

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RE: Did UA Flight 93/175 Passengers Hear The ATC?

Sun Oct 05, 2003 8:16 am

i think that we will never know. IT is the pilots descrition whether to have it on or not and since we don't know what ohers are thiking right now, we won't ever know what the pilot was thinking that day.
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RE: Did UA Flight 93/175 Passengers Hear The ATC?

Sun Oct 05, 2003 10:43 am

I think UAL747 is right. The pilots didn't have time to think about turning off channel 9. I don't think any of the planes got a chance to squawk 7500 (for hijacking), did they?

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RE: Did UA Flight 93/175 Passengers Hear The ATC?

Sun Oct 05, 2003 11:17 am

175 sure didn't have much time because almost immdeaitly after take off they were hijacked so I am sure the passengers were to panicked to be listening to the ATC. NOw 93 had alot of time but again I wouldn't know either.

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RE: Did UA Flight 93/175 Passengers Hear The ATC?

Sun Oct 05, 2003 11:44 am

Dulles, I seriously doubt the pilot remembered to switch off channel nine on 175 or 93

I doubt anyone knows if it was on to begin with. Like flaairport said, it is up to the pilot to turn it on/off.
 
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RE: Did UA Flight 93/175 Passengers Hear The ATC?

Sun Oct 05, 2003 12:02 pm

I thought the transponder and radioes were turned off during the hijacking thus channel 9 would either be off or not monitoring the frequency Atc was calling.
 
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RE: Did UA Flight 93/175 Passengers Hear The ATC?

Sun Oct 05, 2003 2:01 pm

Even if it was on, I doubt that any passengers were listening to it.
 
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RE: Did UA Flight 93/175 Passengers Hear The ATC?

Sun Oct 05, 2003 2:08 pm

I have to disagree with the point that they didn't think to turn it off. While working an AC route on that morning, the captain did turn off the "route map" that displays on the TV's throughout the plane (this to hide the fact that we were diverting). I think that the second thing on all pilots' minds (aside from keeping the plane in the air) was keeping the PAX calm.

Just my two cents!

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RE: Did UA Flight 93/175 Passengers Hear The ATC?

Sun Oct 05, 2003 2:52 pm

I'm sure the passengers were too busy being scared out of their wits to think about listening to channel 9.
 
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RE: Did UA Flight 93/175 Passengers Hear The ATC?

Sun Oct 05, 2003 3:14 pm

Pretty interesting topic, this is something I'm sure many haven't thought of before. In my opinion you never know if some of the pax. on flight 93 were listening to channel 9 and that's when they decided to try and takeover.... Guess we'll really never know though.

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