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Longest 757 Route

Mon Oct 13, 2003 12:07 am

Since the last "Longest Route" thread, it got me thinking....... What's the longest 757-200/300 route? CO from CLE-LGW (if they still fly it) has to be up there. Perhaps our European, Asian and Australian friends could share any info since I am not familiar with 757 OPS in those areas.
 
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RE: Longest 757 Route

Mon Oct 13, 2003 12:26 am

i know many years back Royal Brunei used its B757-200 to operate BWN-SIN-DXB-LHR & BWN-BKK-DXB-FRA, longest scheduled fligh time segment hit 7:55 i think...
 
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RE: Longest 757 Route

Mon Oct 13, 2003 12:29 am

DFW-ANC AA is pretty long. AA flies it seasonally.
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RE: Longest 757 Route

Mon Oct 13, 2003 12:33 am

CLE-LGW on CO is 3763 mi. That is a long flight on those narrowbody 752's. I'd hate to be in a middle seat on those flights for 7 hours. Yuck!
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RE: Longest 757 Route

Mon Oct 13, 2003 12:35 am

It's better than having the middle seat of the middle row in a widebody.
 
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RE: Longest 757 Route

Mon Oct 13, 2003 12:40 am

Yeah but to me the 757's seem so cramped. At least on a widebody the cabin is more spacious as opposed to the long tube feeling in a 757.
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RE: Longest 757 Route

Mon Oct 13, 2003 12:43 am

I still don't see people's aversion to long distance flights on narrowbody aircraft. Crossing the pond in a 757 is no different than doing it in a 707, with the sane fuselage diameter and all. With my current economic situation, I'd be happy to fly just about anywhere right now, narrow or widebody. Especially if someone else is picking up the tab.

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RE: Longest 757 Route

Mon Oct 13, 2003 12:55 am

AA MIA-La Paz-Santa Cruz in Bolivia.

And I know Icelandair use to fly FLL-KEF.

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RE: Longest 757 Route

Mon Oct 13, 2003 1:03 am

Continental flies EWR-ANC with a 757 nonstop seasonally. That has to be an 8 hour flight at least.


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RE: Longest 757 Route

Mon Oct 13, 2003 1:53 am

CO of course uses the 757 the CLE-LGW service and flights out of EWR to Europe......aside from the scheduled services, 757s sometimes sub for 767s on certain routes and CO 757s will show up from time to time on services out of EWR to Zurich, Geneva, Amsterdam and Brussels.

For even longer 757 routes, I think one must look at operations by some of the European charter operators. For example, Dutchbird flies a 757 from Amsterdam to Forteleza, Brazil (nonstop most of the time, about 9 hours), Air Holland has used its 757 on Curacao-Amsterdam flights, and other airlines were/are flying 757s from Europe to Bangkok, Phuket and other destinations in Southeast Asia of course with an enroute stop in the Gulf. Also, I cant remember the name of the Chilean airline (it was merged into Lan Chile) that flew 757s nonstop between MIA and Santiago de Chile.

Finally, American Trans Air flies its 757s on very long haul routes in connection with its military charters.
 
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RE: Longest 757 Route

Mon Oct 13, 2003 2:41 am

Ladeco, the former competitor of LanChile flew daily from SCL to MIA with 757-200s.
They are 3578 nm or 67627 kms, and the flight last almost 8 hours.So I think this was one of the longest flights operated by a 757.

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RE: Longest 757 Route

Mon Oct 13, 2003 2:44 am

I still don't see people's aversion to long distance flights on narrowbody aircraft. Crossing the pond in a 757 is no different than doing it in a 707, with the sane fuselage diameter and all.

Well, TJ, for one thing, having 2 aisles makes it easier for people to get up and walk around during the flight.
 
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Mon Oct 13, 2003 2:45 am

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RE: Longest 757 Route

Mon Oct 13, 2003 2:46 am

AA767400,

The Addis Ababa flight usually stops somewhere in Europe, mainly Rome, but i think it sometimes stops in Athens or Frankfurt.

When i was at Sanford last year I saw an Air 2000 B757 which must have been at least 8/9 hours from Britain. CO66/67 LGW-CLE is pretty long too.

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RE: Longest 757 Route

Mon Oct 13, 2003 2:50 am

767Lover:

As I tend to stay in my seat during a flight, I don't really find the 2 aisles to mean anything. In fact, I think it encourages yahoos to get up and be mobile, not exactly what I'd like on a long relaxing flight.

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RE: Longest 757 Route

Mon Oct 13, 2003 3:05 am

DIdnt EL-Al (Isreali airlines) fly from somewhere in Isreal to JFK on a 752?
 
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RE: Longest 757 Route

Mon Oct 13, 2003 3:06 am

Spacepope is right (and I've made this point DOZENS of times; all together now...), unless you're practising for the London marathon, you spend the flight in your seat. So what the hell difference does it make how many aisles there are? If you go to the toilet, you'll probably walk up or down the aisle on your side of the plane anyway. The ONLY difference between a widebody and a narrowbody is a narrowbody = less people at baggage claim. On the plane, it's all about the size of the seat, where you spend somwhere between 99 and 100 per cent of the ride. What on earth difference does it make if there's a G, H, J or K?!

And as for the gentleman who said that the middle seat on a 757 on a long flight must be a nightmare is on another planet - you're almost in a window. Have you ever flown in the middle section of a widebody?! And that's somehow preferable?!
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RE: Longest 757 Route

Mon Oct 13, 2003 3:09 am

Air Holland used to operate a 752 from AMS-MLE (Maledives islands) with a stop somewhere in the Middle east

Also Co used to operate an AMS-EWR servcie on a 757.


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RE: Longest 757 Route

Mon Oct 13, 2003 3:35 am

Finnair operates HEL-YYZ in the summer with 752 and leisure routes to e.g. Thailand, Vietnam and Brazil with one stop from HEL. There are also some charters in the summer from Japan to HEL via Beijing with the 752...

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RE: Longest 757 Route

Mon Oct 13, 2003 4:04 am

What's CLE coz i dont knowdat one???
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RE: Longest 757 Route

Mon Oct 13, 2003 4:11 am

Air 2000 Flies to Sanford, Orlando FL with 752 but they stop in Bangor, Maine.
Air Holland used to fly to Aruba and Curacao also with 752 but with 2 stops.
I knew Ladeco reached Santiago nonstop, but having to sacrifice some payload.
With maximum T/O weight, the -200 reach 3,900 n.m. that's about 7,200 k.m. Whereas the -300 reach 3,400 n.m. that is about 6,300 k.m. However the -300 series has a MTOW of 123 tons and the -200 is 115 tons.
Charter airlines usually fill their flights and they need to stop for transatlantic flights, but scheduled airlines have the flexibility to depart with more fuel when their flights are partially full and no need to do a technical stop. This of course, do not take in account the atmospheric conditions (density altitude at departure, winds during cruise and minimums along with ATC delays at arrival) that may increase or reduce the time aloft and therefore reduce or increase the airplane's range capability.
 
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RE: Longest 757 Route

Mon Oct 13, 2003 4:28 am

Mexicana used to fly CUN-EZE route.
 
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RE: Longest 757 Route

Mon Oct 13, 2003 5:01 am

I would say some of CO's routes are up there, the transatlantic ones. EWR-LIS is one of them and CLE-LGW. The ANC routes have to be up there too.
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RE: Longest 757 Route

Mon Oct 13, 2003 5:51 am

@Dutchjet: The Amsterdam-Fortaleza flight has a fuel stop at Las Palmas (and a crew change)!

Air Holland flew to Curacao one time this summer with the 757. This was due to the fact that the 767 was modified that day (more seats).

I can remember in the past that Brittania (?) tried to fill up the winter gap with flying 757's to Australia, of course with some stops.
 
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RE: Longest 757 Route

Mon Oct 13, 2003 6:06 am

As I tend to stay in my seat during a flight, I don't really find the 2 aisles to mean anything. In fact, I think it encourages yahoos to get up and be mobile, not exactly what I'd like on a long relaxing flight.

Well, given some publicized incidents of people suffering blood clots during long flights, many pax (or "yahoos," as you so affectionately call them) feel it necessary to move about a little to get the blood flowing. And long flights mean more visits to the restroom -- unless you're wearing a catheter & bag, which is apparently your "secret" to being able to stay seated during an entire transatlantic flight!  Smile

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RE: Longest 757 Route

Mon Oct 13, 2003 6:15 am

Oh I see! Widebody aircraft were invented so A) dual aisles can be used as a running track for passenger fitness and B) people that really should be wearing daipers can get to the loo (although I don't see why they can't on a single aisle aircraft anyway). I fear, however, that we have been drawn slightly off topic. Perhaps we should focus more on the longest 757 route before I have to go into graphic detail about my bathroom habits.

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RE: Longest 757 Route

Mon Oct 13, 2003 6:20 am

air2000 may operate an occasional ad-hoc on the 757, or occasionally have to send 2 757s to Sanford in place of a tech 767, but they don't schedule a 757 on any of their regular longhaul flights.

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RE: Longest 757 Route

Mon Oct 13, 2003 6:32 am

TJ--

That's fine. You were wondering why people don't like flying single aisle aircraft on long flights (which is "off topic".) I simply offered that one reason is increased mobility.

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RE: Longest 757 Route

Mon Oct 13, 2003 7:25 am

What's CLE coz i dont knowdat one???


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RE: Longest 757 Route

Mon Oct 13, 2003 10:12 am

My uncle once flew Royal Brunei from Singapore to London via Dubai in the 757-200. He did not like the trip one bit. Complained that it was too cramped and uncomfortable. Having been on 747s of MH, BA, SQ for his trip to London, he was dismayed when he caught sight of the 'tiny' fifty seven awaiting him. Royal Brunei then were offering tickets at a very competitive price to his alternatives (MH, SQ).
 
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RE: Longest 757 Route

Mon Oct 13, 2003 10:35 am

Triple_Seven, your Dad has it all wrong. For one thing Royal Brunei aren't cramped, they are a subsidised airline from the richest country in the world and they even have goldplated taps in the bathroom. When the 757s were doing frontline longhaul (now 767-300s) they even had footrests in economy. And if he was right and the seats were cramped, what's that got to do with the 757? Surely the airline decides seat pitch, not Boeing?
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RE: Longest 757 Route

Mon Oct 13, 2003 11:07 am

Cedarjet, let me clarify this. My uncle didn't say that the seats were cramped. What I was reffering to was the cabin size (narrow). I know cramped seats has nothing to do with the 757s. I too had flown the 757 and I find them a terrific aircraft to be in with. Ofcourse the airline decides seat pitch. I didn't even mentioned that it was BOEING that dictates seat pitch. If my simple post offended you then I appologise. BTW Brunei is not the richest country on earth, the Sultan is.
 
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RE: Longest 757 Route

Mon Oct 13, 2003 8:08 pm

CLE-LGW 3763 mls
SIN-DXB 3633 mls
DXB-LHR 3420 mls
DFW-ANC 3043 mls
FLL-KEF 3643 mls
EWR-ANC 3370 mls
SCL-MIA 4118 mls
HEL-YYZ 4113 mls
CUN-EZE 4269 mls
EWR-LIS 3385 mls

According to gc.kls2.com.

So... CUN-EZE is the preliminary winner!  Smile

Sorry, had no time to search for the FAA/IATA/ICAO codes for airports mentioned w/o 'em.
 
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RE: Longest 757 Route

Mon Oct 13, 2003 8:13 pm

Can you imagine 8 or 9 hours in a charter-config 757 a la Air 2000 ? 29in pitch ! Drunk British charter pax ! DVT + Air Rage looking for a place to happen...

That's my idea of hell.
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RE: Longest 757 Route

Tue Oct 14, 2003 1:06 am

A couple of years ago I flew on CO 66 CLE-LGW. It was horrible. No PTV's, rude flight attendants. I was so bored.
 
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RE: Longest 757 Route

Tue Oct 14, 2003 1:07 am

CO 66 was of course a 757.
 
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RE: Longest 757 Route

Tue Oct 14, 2003 1:38 am

In reading these posts, I think that CO's Gatwick - Cleveland has to be the longest, longer even than Newark - Anchorage. Westbound, that must be about a 9 hour flight! That's a long way for a 757!!

As for the side discussion on widebody vs. narrowbody (for the long haul routes), I agree with one of the other posts regarding seat comfort. Does it really matter about the size of the aircraft? Surely seat size and comfort is more important! If anything, I get more claustrophobic on the larger aircraft (if they are full) just because of the mass of humanity on board! But I still love widebodies!!  Smile
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RE: Longest 757 Route

Tue Oct 14, 2003 1:57 am

One that I know was Boston to Cape Verde charter that was 8:30 to 9 hours and as far as I know that was pushing the limits on the 757-200
 
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RE: Longest 757 Route

Tue Oct 14, 2003 2:07 am

If anything, I get more claustrophobic on the larger aircraft (if they are full) just because of the mass of humanity on board!

Delta's 767-300 ER: 147 passengers in economy, 2 aisles
Continental's 757-200 International config: 156 pax in economy, one aisle
 
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RE: Longest 757 Route

Tue Oct 14, 2003 2:48 am

I don't get why people complain about longhaul flights on the 757. I'd think that it would be simmilar to flying on the 707 in the old days. They both have the same exact cabin width. I flew on TWA's 757s in 1997 and 1998 to Lisbon and saw no with them. They had no PTVs but they had the drop down LCD monitors. The planes were brand new and they were pretty good flights. However when I flew on an American 757 from YVR-DFW in 2001 I found the seats a bit narrow and prefer their MD-80s.
 
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RE: Longest 757 Route

Tue Oct 14, 2003 3:10 am

DETA737: Good point you made here. Once people have 'tasted' wide body flights they tend not to take a step back (back to narrow body). Just human nature.
 
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RE: Longest 757 Route

Tue Oct 14, 2003 5:07 am

I'm not very sure, but trying to remember, I think that Ladeco flew also to JFK and BWI from SCL.I've tried everywhere to find some info but I can't find anything. If these flights didn't make a stop at MIA, they should definitely compete for the longest 757 route.

But I must say, I am not sure, maybe even the 757 doesn't have such a long range.


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RE: Longest 757 Route

Tue Oct 14, 2003 7:33 am

Has anyone ever thought of configuring a 757 for international flights with 2 aisles, 2-1-2?

Just a weird thought.

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RE: Longest 757 Route

Tue Oct 14, 2003 7:54 am

How about Royal Nepal with KTM-FRA...4218 miles according to the GCM...

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RE: Longest 757 Route

Tue Oct 14, 2003 1:00 pm

A few years ago TW flew a 757-200 with PW 2037 engines in a 18 and 142 config from HNL to STL non stop.
 
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RE: Longest 757 Route

Tue Oct 14, 2003 1:17 pm

767Lover: yes...exactly! My longest flight was on a 763, UA, from LHR-LAX. I was in Connoisseur class, 6A. I started feeling sick for some reason and felt very claustrophobic...I was ready to jump out over Utah! I was really glad when we landed. Probably my worst flight ever...at least the last 2-3 hours anyway.

Sooo....maybe it doesn't depend on the aircraft at all. It's personal preference, and for most, price. Still, I'll choose a widebody for the long haul flights all the same.
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RE: Longest 757 Route

Tue Oct 14, 2003 1:49 pm

752is

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Until recently they also flew a 757-200 JFK-SID. Cape Verde--in the South Atlantic--is easily 4000 miles.

This year they began flying a leased 1011-50.
 
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RE: Longest 757 Route

Tue Oct 14, 2003 2:06 pm

Northwest operates both the 200 and the 300 series to Anchorage from MSP and seasonally from DTW. I've done DTW-ANC at just over 6 hours.

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RE: Longest 757 Route

Tue Oct 14, 2003 9:31 pm

What about Air Seychelles

They had a 757 in the early 90s, they flew Seychelles to Madrid if I remeber.and also down to JNB. Also the turkish outfit Birgenair. Before they lost there 757 it to operated some long sectors. FRA to Puerto something
 
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RE: Longest 757 Route

Tue Oct 14, 2003 9:33 pm

I believe one of the Birgenair aircraft didn't make it back, and ended up feeding the sharks (quite literally) off the coast of the Dominican Republic - not nice at all.
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