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American Airlines F-100 Question

Tue Oct 28, 2003 11:23 am

Where does American fly the F-100 to? I seen them in LGA and DFW, but where do they fly to from these airports?
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RE: American Airlines F-100 Question

Tue Oct 28, 2003 11:28 am

I know there are F100s based at ORD. We get quite a few a day from ORD here in PHL. The ones you see at LGA are probably from/going back to ORD.

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RE: American Airlines F-100 Question

Tue Oct 28, 2003 11:30 am

We get the F-100's here in Nashville all the time.....I think mostly headed to ORD. The large majority of the BNA-DFW flights are MD-80's
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RE: American Airlines F-100 Question

Tue Oct 28, 2003 11:46 am

MD11LuxuryLiner,

The F100's that are seen at LGA fly to Toronto(to be RJ's 1/1/04). The flights to ORD are flown mostly by MD-80s as well as a few 757's

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RE: American Airlines F-100 Question

Tue Oct 28, 2003 11:49 am

"The flights to ORD are flown mostly by MD-80s as well as a few 757's"

Ahh.. that makes even better sense. The F100 is pretty small equipment to be flying between NY and Chicago...  Big thumbs up

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RE: American Airlines F-100 Question

Tue Oct 28, 2003 11:50 am

While connecting through "Hotlanta" (ATL) I spotted some of those old "Barbie Jets," in terminal T. An AA employee told me these F-100's fly to and from ORD.
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RE: American Airlines F-100 Question

Tue Oct 28, 2003 12:03 pm

Don't they still serve MSP as well? What about LGA? What about Dallas? What about ORD? Don't they still fly into these airports? Here is another question: Did American's Airbus A300s ever serve DFW? There is not one photo of them in the database at DFW. Here's another one more relevant to the question being asked: Did American's F-100s ever serve MIA? It doesn't make sense for American to have DFW as its main hub, yet the A300s do not serve it. With TWA, all types of their aircraft served STL.
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RE: American Airlines F-100 Question

Tue Oct 28, 2003 12:39 pm

They are common at Chicago Midway too.

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RE: American Airlines F-100 Question

Tue Oct 28, 2003 12:44 pm

Current F-100 routes, for the most part (as of today):

DFW to:
DSM, IAH, MDW, MSP, OMA, SDF, TUL, XNA

ORD to:
PHL, DCA, TUL, ATL, SAT, DTW, RDU, MSP, IAH, EWR, XNA, HPN, RST, YYZ, YUL, BNA


After January 2004,
DFW F-100 is closed. Replacement aircraft include a mix of CR7 and MD-80.

ORD to:
Same as present day.... with frequencies being reduced as time goes on. First city to go is RST (all EMB) after the end of January.
 
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RE: American Airlines F-100 Question

Tue Oct 28, 2003 12:45 pm

They also exclusively fly ORD-DCA.
 
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RE: American Airlines F-100 Question

Tue Oct 28, 2003 2:14 pm

Thanks guys  Smile

I didn't think the F-100 flew that many routes. Most of the routes listed I thought are being flow by the ERJ or the CRJ.
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RE: American Airlines F-100 Question

Tue Oct 28, 2003 3:06 pm

A little off topic, but for those of you who have flown on the F-100 how does it compare with flying on an RJ?
 
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RE: American Airlines F-100 Question

Tue Oct 28, 2003 3:28 pm

A little off topic, but for those of you who have flown on the F-100 how does it compare with flying on an RJ?

It's much better. The F100 has all the features any other narrow-body aircraft would have.
 
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RE: American Airlines F-100 Question

Tue Oct 28, 2003 3:40 pm

I was on an F100 this spring. It was small, but a lot better than an RJ IMO. More space at least. The planes were pretty nice, and when I was talking to the Cap, he said that it had the most advanced cockpit in the AA fleet till they got the 777s.
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RE: American Airlines F-100 Question

Tue Oct 28, 2003 3:49 pm

Why do some Flight Attendants at American Airlines refer to the Fokker 100 as "Dutch Ovens". I have flown on both American Airlines and KLM Cityhopper. I have asked the KLM personnel and they have no idea what the meaning is in reference to! Does anyone know why Flight Attendants at American Airlines refer to Fokker 100 as a "Dutch Oven"?



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RE: American Airlines F-100 Question

Tue Oct 28, 2003 4:00 pm

Fokker was a Dutch company....just a catchy nickname....

There is minimal difference on the inside of the F-100 than the MD-80...
The cabin diameter is a little smaller, the length a little shorter, and the F-100's didn't receive the new seats like the MD-80.

However the F-100 is far superior to the RJ's. The 87 seat MRTC configuration sure makes for a nice ride.
 
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RE: American Airlines F-100 Question

Tue Oct 28, 2003 4:09 pm

I flew on an AA F100 from IAH to DFW, nice plane ...
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RE: American Airlines F-100 Question

Tue Oct 28, 2003 8:54 pm

"Dutch Oven" refers to the fact that the plane is from Holland, where marijuana is legal. If you smoke out a room with marijuana it is referred to as that.
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RE: American Airlines F-100 Question

Tue Oct 28, 2003 10:25 pm

I thought that Dutch Oven was from when the flight attendants protested working the aircraft.

American chose not to have the optional rear side door, so the nearest exit for the aft flight attendant is overwing. Dutch Oven because the flight attendant strapped to the back wall would bake before being able to get out of the aircraft in a fire.
 
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RE: American Airlines F-100 Question

Tue Oct 28, 2003 11:54 pm

AA also flies the F-100 into XNA.
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RE: American Airlines F-100 Question

Wed Oct 29, 2003 5:08 am

Hello,

From what I heard of KLM pilots, flying the F100 is a really enjoying thing, it's an excellent aircraft and they love to work on it. Because it has a very advanced cockpit and is very easy to fly. KLM has a lot of F100, which fly almost always to the United Kingdom from AMS.

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RE: American Airlines F-100 Question

Wed Oct 29, 2003 5:16 am

AA pilots like to fly it also. Spacious cockpit, good thrust-to-weight, high level of automation etc. The folks in charge of purchasing fuel for AA like it also since the F100 is down right miserly with fuel.

AA's maintenance department is another story. The plane leaks skydrol like a sieve, the engines are tempremental, the A/C packs are failure prone. When you have to work on the packs you have to take a panel that has about 75 #3 screws off. Unlike a Boeing plane where all you have to do is pop open the access panel. Once you get the panel off is when you realize the pack and the compartment in which it's in is the proverbial ten pounds of stuff in a five pound bag.
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RE: American Airlines F-100 Question

Wed Oct 29, 2003 5:22 am

Someone above asked about the A300 serving DFW?? NO it doesnt, it probably never will either. My dad saw one come into DFW once for an emergancy but that was it. The only time i ever saw an AA A300 was in BOS. I grew up around AA from living in DFW and ORD all but 3 years of my life it was pretty weird to see one after never seeing on in those colors before.

The A300 Serves the east coast mostly, carribean, south america.

The F100 is serving a lot more flights out of ORD i have noticed. This hub is where the last flight will be out of i believe. Its a good little plane but i personally hate it and so do the mechanics. Its a pilots dream though. I know they serve Des Moines, IA as well as DET, MSP, Flint, Mi. a few others i cant think of right now that where not mentioned above.
 
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RE: American Airlines F-100 Question

Wed Oct 29, 2003 5:28 am

We used to get them in ROC with the MD80's to ORD before A^A left town earlier in the year  Sad
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RE: American Airlines F-100 Question

Wed Oct 29, 2003 8:58 am

he said that it had the most advanced cockpit in the AA fleet till they got the 777

About the same as the MD11. Advanced? yes. Most advanced? Nope.

Flight Attendants at American Airlines refer to the Fokker 100 as "Dutch Ovens".

FA jumpseats are at the rear of the cabin where there is no exit and a perception of poor ventilation (supposedly not true, but I spent most of my time at the other end of the plane).

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RE: American Airlines F-100 Question

Wed Oct 29, 2003 9:35 am

I know they fly to LGA and DFW from Chicago MIDWAY
 
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RE: American Airlines F-100 Question

Wed Oct 29, 2003 10:05 am

Yes, they are called dutch ovens because of the lack of an aft exit. Also, the "pits" are advanced with an all glass cockpit, one of the first. Interesting FYI, the F100 has no slats and does not have reverse thrust.

The interior is nearly identical to the MD-80 with 2X3 seating, only slightly narrower. Also, the over head bins are small, but will fit a roll-a-board that is packed the way the manufacturer intended it, ie, not bulging. There is no aft galley, and there are three lavs onboard. Capacity? 8 first and 79 coach, with AA's "More Room Throughout Coach."

Last AA F100 will fly in September, 2004. AA had 75 F100s in the fleet at one time, the largest operator of the type, but is slowly retiring them, supposedly two a month until the last one is gone. In December, company exec Dan Garton said AA was very close to signing a deal to sell at least half of them... but no word on who or if that deal went through.

Also, another piece of FYI, AA had planned on using the F100s on the Northeast shuttle routes. When United had planned to merge with US Air, AA signed a deal with them that would have created another carrier, with AA and UA having equal ability to book and share revenue from the flights in a complicated code share agreement. The idea was it would help prevent antitrust concerns of the proposed merger, and would allow AA to cash in on the northeast shuttle routes which AA doesn't serve nearly to the extent as US and DL. I think the original deal called for AA signing over 20 aircraft to the new carrier, which would not have been under the AMR or UAL Corp umbrella. Of course, with the merger between UA and US dead, this deal died, too.
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RE: American Airlines F-100 Question

Wed Oct 29, 2003 11:06 am

No reverse thrust ? What is this then ?  Smile

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RE: American Airlines F-100 Question

Wed Oct 29, 2003 11:13 am

AA also flies their F100s internationally to Monterrey, Mexico (MTY), from DFW. I've taken this flight a couple times (as well as many MX F100 flights) and I just love it!! Too bad AA will retire them, and also MX for the matter.



 
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RE: American Airlines F-100 Question

Wed Oct 29, 2003 11:30 am

To answer your question....I see them here all the time at MDW....I believe 4 daily flights MDW-DFW and 2 daily flights MDW-LGA.
 
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RE: American Airlines F-100 Question

Wed Oct 29, 2003 11:52 am

United_Fan:

Um... engine failure? My bad... I thought for sure they didn't have reverse thrust. Then again, it's an assumption because I've never heard it used before. I've not flown on the F100 much, as I am not qualified on it, but I've commuted to EWR several times and non-revved to MSP on it.

Perhaps this raises another question... Is it really necessary? I'll try and find out. Thanks for the correction!  Smile/happy/getting dizzy
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RE: American Airlines F-100 Question

Wed Oct 29, 2003 6:52 pm

I saw quite a few of them at O'Hare the other day while I was waiting for my flight to Brussels. That's where most of them are based, they've always been based there since the early 90's when American took delivery of the first Fokker 100 aircraft. Yes, I agree it's sad to see them go, it's sad to see any type leaving a fleet. I like it, it's quite a pleasure to fly on it, the only thing I didn't like about it is the loud engine noise during take off if you are seated in the last row. Other than that, it's a nice aircraft. I do beleive that the final flight will arrive in Chicago, that'll be end of next year.
It's a sad end. It's not only the end of the Fokker 100 at American, it's the end of this aircraft in the United States (US Airways no longer has them, and Midway went out of business) and the Dutch aircraft manufacturer doesn't exist anymore.

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RE: American Airlines F-100 Question

Thu Oct 30, 2003 10:52 am

That's ok,Qq. I fly the one in FS2002,and it has reversers. Here's a pic of A^A's taken the last month of service to ROC (all Boring Eagle now)


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RE: American Airlines F-100 Question

Thu Oct 30, 2003 11:09 am

just got back from a roundtrip F-100 LGA-MDW American Airlines trip. A couple of things...

1. The F-100 interior looks dingy and old.
2. The plan is quite loud compared to a similar sized/shaped 717.
3. The overhead bins couldn't fit a small briefcase! This stinks for business travel!
4. I had a female captain for the first time (have had a female FO frequently). She was great (kind of cute too!)
5. It beats an RJ - but cannot compare favorably to a 717, md-80, or other mainline aircraft.

I won't be sad to see them go...

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