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kaitakfan
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UA 895, ORD-HKG?

Fri Oct 31, 2003 3:27 am

I was checking flight loads just a minute ago for UA 895 from ORD to HKG when I discovered it is stoping in ANC and then on to HKG. I figured that was really strange. I then checked the flights status from yesterday. On the 29th of October, UAL Skynet said that 895 flew to HKG via PEK! Does anybody know what the hell is going on with UA 895 lately?
 
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RE: UA 895, ORD-HKG?

Fri Oct 31, 2003 3:30 am

That is a very long flight, around 15 hours i believe that stretches the 747-400's range westerly. I imagine conditions such as headwind and other factors are necessitating a fuel stop, its not really that unusual for these very long flights occasionaly.

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RE: UA 895, ORD-HKG?

Fri Oct 31, 2003 3:36 am

Hello, KTFan,

in last couple days, there was a solar storm and it was passing Earth. FAA issued alerts becasue this storm contained bad particles, which are dangerous to humans. I would say some type of radiation.

I would presume that flying over North Pole is more dangerous and thus the flight must be divided.

I am not sure, but I will guess that is why those "strange" routings lately.


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RE: UA 895, ORD-HKG?

Fri Oct 31, 2003 3:36 am

I thought the same thing. I know the jetstream might be starting to kick up as Autumn nears winter. However, I just dont see why UAL would list a tech stop for that flight on an employee non-rev website. Also, arnt most fuel stops decided while enroute instead of several hours prior to departure? I guess since all classes of service were sold solid today, the captain decided to make the stop before even leaving the ground. That might be a good way to avoid leaving paying passengers behind due to a weight restriction perhaps.
 
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RE: UA 895, ORD-HKG?

Fri Oct 31, 2003 3:39 am

Just like JPE said, fuel stop. 895 on the 29th went out with 14F 73C and 210Y
It took off weighting 868,788lbs

That was full of freight, defiantly a fuel stop.


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RE: UA 895, ORD-HKG?

Fri Oct 31, 2003 3:48 am

CO 99/29Oct EWRHKG stopped in SEA yesterday, according to Continental.com.

KE 36/30Oct ATLICN is estimated to take about 40 minutes longer than scheduled for today's flight.
 
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RE: UA 895, ORD-HKG?

Fri Oct 31, 2003 3:55 am

This is indeed because of the magnetic storm. All routes over or close to the pole have been given more southern routings, increasing the flight time and thus requiring an extra fuel stop. this storm is to last 2 more days.
 
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RE: UA 895, ORD-HKG?

Fri Oct 31, 2003 4:06 am

Funny someone started this topic...I saw a UAL 744 take off not 10 minutes ago, and came back to my computer to see if it was the ORD-HKG flight. It most definitely was, and I noted that it was stopping in ANC.

I agree it is due to both the magnetic storm at weight.

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RE: UA 895, ORD-HKG?

Fri Oct 31, 2003 6:11 am

If I were a passenger on yesterdays flight that stopped in PEK, I would be thrilled, even though, I didn't like Beijing when I went there 10 years ago. Just the excitement of stopping in a place where you didn't expect to stop and be able to see is thrilling. I would definitely be more excited about stopping in PEK than today's ANC stop.
 
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RE: UA 895, ORD-HKG?

Fri Oct 31, 2003 7:51 am

This doesn't answer your question, but in a prior issue of Airways or Airliners it was noted in an article that sometimes the UA B744 use to Hong Kong is tugged out to the runway to spare fuel.
 
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RE: UA 895, ORD-HKG?

Fri Oct 31, 2003 8:27 am

I'm on that flight on November 7. I'll let you know where and if we "top off the tanks" enroute.
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RE: UA 895, ORD-HKG?

Fri Oct 31, 2003 8:56 am

B764,I believe the towing-out was stopped after new Russian-Polar routes opened up.
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RE: UA 895, ORD-HKG?

Fri Oct 31, 2003 12:06 pm

I flew 895/896 in 2001 and both were non-stop. Did UA increase the number of seats on the airplane?
 
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RE: UA 895, ORD-HKG?

Fri Oct 31, 2003 12:54 pm

It is because the flight has to use a different routing because of the solar flares. Any time it has to reroute, it usually means making a fuel stop. PEK and ANC.

It shows up on SkyNet, because Apollo was changed to reflect the stop. It now shows as a 1 stop flight, which I have heard makes it easier to rebook connections and notify customers for the computers.

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