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Bobs89irocz
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Salute To Airbus

Sat Nov 08, 2003 10:36 am

I have to say even though im a BIG Boeing fan and wish every airline in the world was flying Boeings i have to admit after today spending 3 hours looking through a LH A340 at ORD that im no longer a hater but an admirer of Airbus (formerly known as Scarbus). When i was done refueling i did a walk around with the Mechanic and started talking about the airplane. I thought i knew how most of the systems worked on the A330/340 but i was obviouse i was told some false info (which was from an A320 pilot). I hated most airbus because i didnt like there systems and avionics, not to mention flying with a side mount joy stick (which is cool in an F-16). After today and spending alot of time in the cockpit messsing around and looking through the FMS and actually sitting in the pilots seat and getting the feel of what it would be like to fly a plane that size with a joystick. I always hated it because i didnt ever want to fly a plane with a joystick or imagine anyone else doing it because its seemed like it could he really hard to control. but now i believe they build an airplane that is unique and would be a blast to fly. Not to mention the feel of the joystick (its location) and where the screens are located the plane would be very easy and fun to fly. I give a salute to airbus and acnolage those that air airbus fans because there product is deffinitly a worthy contender to Boeing.
 
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RE: Salute To Airbus

Sat Nov 08, 2003 10:42 am

damn.. sounds like your into the size and location of the joy stick!
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RE: Salute To Airbus

Sat Nov 08, 2003 10:47 am

damn.. sounds like your into the size and location of the joy stick!

damn.. thats harsh!...
 
Bobs89irocz
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RE: Salute To Airbus

Sat Nov 08, 2003 10:47 am

when it comes to the controls of the airplane then ummmm yes...get your head out of your pants and into the clouds.
 
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RE: Salute To Airbus

Sat Nov 08, 2003 1:16 pm

Airbus makes a desent flt deck... thats about it.

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RE: Salute To Airbus

Sat Nov 08, 2003 1:18 pm

congrats. it's great to hear that people are getting over thier "i hate airbus addictions." now i have just one person left to work on.
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RE: Salute To Airbus

Sat Nov 08, 2003 1:44 pm

Airbus makes a desent flt deck... thats about it.

I say again, blah blah blah.

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RE: Salute To Airbus

Sat Nov 08, 2003 1:55 pm

I definitely love the metallic blue color of the Airbus cockpits as opposed to the traditional brown that Boeing uses. Airbus and Boeing put a lot of time into making their cockpits as pilot friendly as possible.

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You can really see the differences between the two cockpits. I most notably like the fact that Airbus pilots are able to pull out the table in front of them, due to the lack of the classical yoke. The joystick just takes some getting used to, much like the Embraer yoke with is held palms down; almost like riding a bicycle.
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RE: Salute To Airbus

Sat Nov 08, 2003 2:01 pm

They are both good.

But I'm smelling an Airbus vs. Boeing war heating up............................
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RE: Salute To Airbus

Sat Nov 08, 2003 3:30 pm



GOOD FOR YOU. YIPPEEEE

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RE: Salute To Airbus

Sat Nov 08, 2003 4:43 pm

I have to admit, I'm having a growing fondness of the A340-500. What an awesome/graceful looking machine.

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RE: Salute To Airbus

Sat Nov 08, 2003 6:05 pm

Really nice to hear attitudes lightening up - and, Bobs89irocz, I think I'm a bit jealous of your job... walking around planes all day - I just get to book and issue the tickets that put people on them, but if I want to see some, I have to fly myself... or at least drive to Hannover or Frankfurt...

Just wondering - how many of the "If it ain't a Boeing, I ain't going" crowd have never seen an Airbus from anything but the outside...

And, BA, I sure hope you're smelling something that isn't there - as you've said, they both make good airplanes and it's just, plain and simply, a complete waste of time (and server space, and bandwidth, and ...) to continue these wars: some like Cadillacs, some like Mercedes - some like Mazdas, some like Citroens... some like Airbus, some like Boeing... who cares?
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RE: Salute To Airbus

Sat Nov 08, 2003 8:38 pm

It is beyond me how people who have no hands on/technical experience of either Airbus or Boeing products can hate one or the other. How can you form a opinion without knowledge?
 
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RE: Salute To Airbus

Sat Nov 08, 2003 9:34 pm

Way to go, Bobs89irocz!!!!

Real aviation fans look at every aircraft, no matter if Boeing or Airbus, or McDonnell Douglas or Lockheed or Tupolev or .... whatever else for that matter.

BTW, VC-10, you're spot on with your comment  Wink/being sarcastic

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RE: Salute To Airbus

Sat Nov 08, 2003 9:47 pm

Well when I spent a day at SAA flight simulators I found it interesting that the older pilots prefered to fly a Boeing while the younger guys prefered an Airbus.

I see it hard to compare the different cockpits. Sure they are both cockpits on commercial planes but they are so different in nearly every aspect apart from the fact you can fly a plane with them.
 
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RE: Salute To Airbus

Sat Nov 08, 2003 9:48 pm


Real aviation fans look at every aircraft, no matter if Boeing or Airbus, or McDonnell Douglas or Lockheed or Tupolev or .... whatever else for that matter.


Wow! I didn't know people have to be "political correct" even for their hobbies!  Wink/being sarcastic

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RE: Salute To Airbus

Sun Nov 09, 2003 12:00 am

Well, for what it's worth, I'd say that Airbus planes are more "state of the art" and the Boeing planes are more reliable.
 
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RE: Salute To Airbus

Sun Nov 09, 2003 1:14 am

So after "lots of flying" on Airbuses, exactly what's wrong with them from a technical perspective?
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RE: Salute To Airbus

Sun Nov 09, 2003 1:29 am

And Rumsfeldt talking of "old europeans"...
PUHLEEEEZEE!

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RE: Salute To Airbus

Sun Nov 09, 2003 2:07 am

This is silly... with a few exceptions i dont see any true expertese here, just pax that are into what they are flying on... boeing put alot of research into their cockpit also.. they chose the brown for a reason... very little glare very relaxing etc... do y'all think boeing doesnt research stuff... lets remember that the 777 is fly by wire also but boeing choose to keep the yoke
 
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RE: Salute To Airbus

Sun Nov 09, 2003 2:33 am

Actually you may be interested to know that the Airbus cockpit was in fact designed by the Porsche Industrial Design Bureau.
 
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RE: Salute To Airbus

Sun Nov 09, 2003 2:39 am

I like both. I find the 777 a beauty, and there's nothing like a 744. But what I like about Airbus is that they're doing what Boeing used to do: Innovating!
Boeing nowdays has become too conservative, too content with following rather than leading. Airbus seems to be the one of the two that takes the most risks, and I love that. Even if it's not the most financialy responsible approach, it's the only way to come up with breakthrough products like the fly-by-wire A320 and even the A300, the first widebody twin jet. Boeing needs to wake up.
 
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RE: Salute To Airbus

Sun Nov 09, 2003 3:27 am

Eg777er - really? Porsche Industrial Design Bureau? Cool - hadn't heard that before...
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Bobs89irocz
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RE: Salute To Airbus

Sun Nov 09, 2003 4:36 am

I personally like the Brown color in the cockpit of Boeings, but the Airbus aircaft is a nice machine and everything is really easy to understand. Where there controls are located in the cockpit are more accesable then some Boeings. Dont get me wrong guys, im still a die hare Boeing fan and love them very much but im not starting to notice why Airbus is great too. Im sure 2 weeks ago if i would have read this post i would have wanted to knock the guy over the head for thinking like i am now. But as a spectator (at the moment) and a spotter i never really did like Airbus and now that im around them and understanding more and more i truly see why they are great as well. Thanks for the great responses guys, not to much of a war in here which is really nice to see.
 
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RE: Salute To Airbus

Sun Nov 09, 2003 5:15 am

Bobs89irocz,

I have to agree. I have always liked Airbus aircraft. It's the company that I don't care for. But I agree, .....

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RE: Salute To Airbus

Sun Nov 09, 2003 5:25 am

Yes Airbus aircraft are nice indeed. I like all aircraft. Boeing just happens to be my favorite manufacturer because I like the way their aircraft look. How about someone make a salute to Boeing? (An Airbus fan preferably). LOL
 
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RE: Salute To Airbus

Sun Nov 09, 2003 8:16 am

A320, and 737 are about the same to me. I do like the 777 better though.
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RE: Salute To Airbus

Sun Nov 09, 2003 9:51 am

Boeing nut, great picture of the A340-500.

Is it just me, or does it not look almost like a re-engined 707 from that angle? (minus the winglets, of course)
 
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RE: Salute To Airbus

Sun Nov 09, 2003 11:23 pm

I fly the airbus A310 which has a conventional control yoke and is a joy to fly....very responsive and control input in manoeuvres is instinctive. Having never flown an airbus with a sidestick, I dont consider myself qualified to comment but it does seem a little awkward to me. But I think all it takes is a little getting used to flying with a stick and after that it really doesn't matter whether you are flying with a yoke or sidestick. Thousands of A320 series and A330/A340 pilots are surely enjoying their time aloft !

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