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Emirates As Launch Customer For 7e7?

Sat Dec 13, 2003 7:25 am

To all:

There is a report on Yahoo that Emirates wanted to announce its' interest in being a launch customer for 7e7 at the Dubai airshow. They intend to replace their A332's starting in 2008. Boeing did not want to make the announcement considering that the program is not yet official.

More good news for 7e7. It seems that JAL and ANA will not be the only launch customers.

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Sjoerd
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RE: Emirates As Launch Customer For 7e7?

Sat Dec 13, 2003 7:28 am

How come you are sure about JAL and ANA ?
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gigneil
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RE: Emirates As Launch Customer For 7e7?

Sat Dec 13, 2003 7:31 am

I am sure about JAL and ANA, I think most people are.

I would sincerely doubt EK would start unloading frames that won't hardly be 10 years old.

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RE: Emirates As Launch Customer For 7e7?

Sat Dec 13, 2003 7:49 am

Well, since the DXB Air Show ended two days ago (for them).... I'd say the accuracy of this report has already been well established  Big grin
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RE: Emirates As Launch Customer For 7e7?

Sat Dec 13, 2003 7:54 am

DO NOT BE SURPRISED AT ALL BY THIS EMIRATES announcement.

they have to get as much good publicity as possible and this is another example of it BUT they have concrete reasons...their A 332s will be around 12 years old by 2008 and by the time all their B 7E7s arrive, the A 332s would be over 15 years old so its a good replacement.

I think EK would order all 3 variants of the B 7E7!!!
 
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RE: Emirates As Launch Customer For 7e7?

Sat Dec 13, 2003 8:08 am

15 years is certainly not when you replace a widebody.....
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RE: Emirates As Launch Customer For 7e7?

Sat Dec 13, 2003 8:22 am

However, the smaller widebody jets in EK's fleet are some of the more harder-worked planes in their fleet, especially for Middle Eastern regional routes from DXB and flights to Pakistan and western India. I think EK would definitely want the 7E7 for these regional routes starting in 2008, especially since the 7E7 will offer a wider cabin than the A330's now in EK service.
 
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RE: Emirates As Launch Customer For 7e7?

Sat Dec 13, 2003 8:24 am

To all:

I typo'd when I stated A332's. The article states A300-200's. I assume Emirates has A300's still in service?

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RE: Emirates As Launch Customer For 7e7?

Sat Dec 13, 2003 8:27 am

Emirates has/had operated pretty much every other widebody in existence or on the drawing board, why not the 7E7?
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RE: Emirates As Launch Customer For 7e7?

Sat Dec 13, 2003 9:22 am

There is no such thing as a A 300-200...the closest thing is a AB2 which was built in the 1970s!!!

The article is correct in saying that the B 7E7 will be the replacement aircraft for older A 332s of EK.

By the way both EK and SQ have a policy of some sorts where by they dont want aircraft in their fleet which are over 10 years old.

EKs A 332s are huge workhorses flying mulitple 2-4 hour long flights daily within the Middle East and to the Indian subcontinent...some even go to BNE-SIN and many to Europe + UK too.
 
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RE: Emirates As Launch Customer For 7e7?

Sat Dec 13, 2003 11:51 am

Dubai-Europe is hardly a "workhorse" route. Its a relatively low cycle high hour trip.

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RE: Emirates As Launch Customer For 7e7?

Sat Dec 13, 2003 3:03 pm

I must agree with Behramjee 100%!
"DO NOT BE SURPRISED AT ALL BY THIS EMIRATES announcement".

Emirates is well known for its great service & most importantly a modern fleet. Emirates policy is to replace an aircraft well before its used by date. Behramjee has stated within 10 years.
Singapore Airlines has a similar policy with there fleet & in most cases an aircraft is phased out of the fleet by the age of 5.
Unless I state it wrong I cant see the A330 being phased out of the fleet before the A310s though.
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RE: Emirates As Launch Customer For 7e7?

Sat Dec 13, 2003 5:10 pm

Behramjee,

EK still operates A310-300s, maybe the will replace them with the 7E7.

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behramjee
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RE: Emirates As Launch Customer For 7e7?

Sat Dec 13, 2003 7:01 pm

Some of you have not done your research when posting this...EK has only 1 A 310-300 left in its fleet the last I heard to be used mainly as a spare aircraft incase an A 332 breaks down sometime.
 
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RE: Emirates As Launch Customer For 7e7?

Sat Dec 13, 2003 7:23 pm

wishfull thinking ? ?
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RE: Emirates As Launch Customer For 7e7?

Sat Dec 13, 2003 7:59 pm

Keesje:

Find the article and read it. It sounds like Emirates would have ordered the frames yesterday if they could. Considering what Emirates lays out for frames, it should surprise no one; except perhaps you.

regards,

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RE: Emirates As Launch Customer For 7e7?

Sat Dec 13, 2003 8:08 pm

15 years is certainly not when you replace a widebody.....

Certaintly not in most parts of the world, such as the US and Europe. But when they're (Emirates) bringing in truck loads of cash while airlines in other countries aren't, then the opposite of what you said is definitely a real possibility.
 
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RE: Emirates As Launch Customer For 7e7?

Sat Dec 13, 2003 8:36 pm

Desertjets,

The most imaginable of all widebodies, the 747, has never been operated as a passenger aircraft for Emirates.

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