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Aer Lingus Has New Livery?

Mon Jan 05, 2004 4:35 pm

This pretty disturbing, EI recently received two ex-Swiss A320's, delivered in plain white.
I thought at first that this was because they were in a hurry to get the aircraft (no S) and that these would be repainted soon.
However, they have now appeared with a green shamrock on the tail and nothing else. Is EI going to shift status and become an LCC, and thus change to this (horrid) livery in the process ?

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RE: Aer Lingus Has New Livery?

Mon Jan 05, 2004 5:06 pm

Man, I hope they stay green! It's a color that we don't usually see in large quantities on planes and it really sets them apart from nearly every other airline. And of all other colors to change to they chose white!? We don't need another all white c/s!! I'm hoping this remains localized on a few A320s.

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RE: Aer Lingus Has New Livery?

Mon Jan 05, 2004 5:10 pm

I guess that those 2 A320's are only staying temporarly till their new aircrafts are delivered? Maybe the costs for a repaint are too high when those aircrafts only stay for a few months?

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RE: Aer Lingus Has New Livery?

Mon Jan 05, 2004 5:12 pm

Talk about cheap looking! Those machines look awful. All they are missing are the random charter carrier logo on the tail as if they have been wet-leased. Its sad that EI had to go down the LCC road.  Sad
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RE: Aer Lingus Has New Livery?

Mon Jan 05, 2004 5:32 pm

Interesting.

But to be honest even thought the full scheme is more appealing that the one pictured on EI-CSV my guess is that the aircraft is either on short term lease until EI receive more A320's; or they are going to keep the aircraft and would rather have the aircraft flying, making money, paint the aircraft with as little as is needed for it to be indentified by customers etc as an EI aircraft and then repaint it in full when it comes to manx the aircraft.

As for it being sad for EI to go the low cost road. It all a matter of survival now-a-days in this industry. If this is a necessary staep in order for EI to survive and compete with rival airlines then surely it can only be a good move.

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RE: Aer Lingus Has New Livery?

Mon Jan 05, 2004 6:27 pm

I believe (I could be wrong) that those were only temporary, to promote EI's website or something. Don't worry, the green isn't going...

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RE: Aer Lingus Has New Livery?

Mon Jan 05, 2004 8:20 pm

Another possiblity reminds me of the former BA 744 transformed into a QF 744, VH-NLH. The QF 744 had a British Airways tail on it, and LAX controllers couldn't visually tell what airline it was... BA or QF. What LAX asked for, was for QF to remove the tail and paint it solid white, a tail-color not seen at LAX. After that, anytime a 744 with a white tail would roll in, they knew it was QF. So here with EI, perhaps they slapped a shamrock on it for a visual reference.
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RE: Aer Lingus Has New Livery?

Mon Jan 05, 2004 10:24 pm

Sure hope they're not going! I'd say the Irish green livery is about my favorite one today, but I'd suspect this is just because of the lease. The darker green may be so it would show up better against the white. I'd be surprised if they would trade liveries for something so amazingly plain-looking, though.
 
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RE: Aer Lingus Has New Livery?

Mon Jan 05, 2004 10:39 pm

I'm sure the c/s on those two A.320's is just a temporary measure, as they won't be staying too long. But the old livery is a bit jaded now and needs some imaginative updating. Maybe they'll take the opportunity of the new A.320's to do it.... hope they don't drop the shamrock though.

It's a pity thay had to go LCC to survive; squeezing 174 pax on a 320. maybe they've gone too far?
 
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RE: Aer Lingus Has New Livery?

Mon Jan 05, 2004 11:34 pm

Are these also a special scheme?


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RE: Aer Lingus Has New Livery?

Mon Jan 05, 2004 11:36 pm

These are the special schemes promoting the website use.
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RE: Aer Lingus Has New Livery?

Mon Jan 05, 2004 11:52 pm

And those c/s on the 737s also sadly herald the end of Boeing types with Aer Lingus.... that is until they order 7E7s, as I think they will. Their A.330s (especially the-300s) are getting very shabby and will need replacing.
 
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RE: Aer Lingus Has New Livery?

Tue Jan 06, 2004 12:01 am

Hmmm, the paintwork doesn't seem too shabby on these 330's :

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RE: Aer Lingus Has New Livery?

Tue Jan 06, 2004 12:31 am

My guess that would be good for the EI. Those are looking great pics with new colors and also, please bring it back with the green color again. Thanks!  Smile
 
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RE: Aer Lingus Has New Livery?

Tue Jan 06, 2004 1:03 am

EI wont go for 7E7s.
There an all Airbus operator to stay once the final 737s are gone.
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RE: Aer Lingus Has New Livery?

Tue Jan 06, 2004 1:10 am

Take a look close up UTA. (Make this photo large). That green has faded so much I'd call it shabby. That cheatline's a bit sloppy. Believe me, it's the tail section that looks most shabby in reality.
No. I'm afraid a revised livery is overdue. Hope they pick a richer green and keep the shamrock.

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RE: Aer Lingus Has New Livery?

Tue Jan 06, 2004 1:13 am

You from Ath Cliath too ? let's settle this argument by watching the real thing takeoff on 28 this WE Big grin
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RE: Aer Lingus Has New Livery?

Tue Jan 06, 2004 3:57 am

Is ea! But only an DL 777 would get me out there!
EI's previous livery had much nicer greens (and blue). Pity they don't use the same shades for a new imaginative c/s.


 
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RE: Aer Lingus Has New Livery?

Tue Jan 06, 2004 4:32 am

You think the A330's look shabby, Im sure you must have seen the 747's before they were retired. Definitely showing their age.


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RE: Aer Lingus Has New Livery?

Tue Jan 06, 2004 5:00 am

The EI 737 "dot" logo variants were supposed to be temporary but they seem to be lingering on. The green colour scheme was / is supposed to be retained but I would not bet much money on it, the intention is to sell EI and it may be believed by some that the "green scheme" might be too ethnic.

The ex Swissair Airbus 320's (ex HB-IJD & HB-IJE) are on lease pending delivery, which explains the basically white colour scheme adopted, but they look particularly ugly and are very dirty looking already.

Incidentally there are also two ex EI Bae 146's parked up at Shannon which may not be in the green scheme for much longer.
 
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RE: Aer Lingus Has New Livery?

Tue Jan 06, 2004 4:41 pm

Where did the other BAe 146's go to ? any parked at DUB ?

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RE: Aer Lingus Has New Livery?

Tue Jan 06, 2004 8:27 pm

BAe 146 EI-CTO is parked at Southend (SEN) in England.

It is void of Shamrock and EI titles, parked with two Ex Air China 146's that belong to Flightline I believe.

Can anyone confirm if EI-CTO is now belonging to FLT?

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RE: Aer Lingus Has New Livery?

Tue Jan 06, 2004 11:29 pm

William,

There is 1/2 at DUB and there are 2/3 at SNN

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RE: Aer Lingus Has New Livery?

Wed Jan 07, 2004 1:37 am

Aer Lingus have operated aircraft in all sorts of hybrid schemes. In the 70s I well remember 737-248s EI-ASA in basic Cameroun livery and EI-ASB in VASP, EI-ASH in Transair Canada and 707s in Zambia Airways colours. All white 707s and 767s also come to mind too.
 
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RE: Aer Lingus Has New Livery?

Wed Jan 07, 2004 9:46 am

How nice to see someone managed to get an Airbus bashing in! Some things just seem to be so predictable on here.

Be interesting to see what happens to the LHR-DUB route if EI were to go further down the LCC route. It's the only EI route BA nows sells tickets on due to their different fare structures. I'm sure BA would just love to get its hands on those slots, as its done with both SN and LX.
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RE: Aer Lingus Has New Livery?

Wed Jan 07, 2004 5:33 pm

Er, doesn't BA just codeshare with EI on this route, using EI aircraft only ?
I checked DUB->LHR prices for the upcoming a.net meeting at LHR on BA's website, and the flights were marked as "operated by Aer Lingus"
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RE: Aer Lingus Has New Livery?

Wed Jan 07, 2004 10:12 pm

Re Codeshare to LHR


EI fly all the DUB-LHR-DUB services.(BD is the only other operator, not BA)

BA (mainline) abandoned all Republic of Ireland services c1990, including DUB-LHR.

BA only appear in the Republic under the colours of one of their assocaite carriers
 
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RE: Aer Lingus Has New Livery?

Wed Jan 07, 2004 10:18 pm

"EI fly all the DUB-LHR-DUB services.(BD is the only other operator, not BA)
BA (mainline) abandoned all Republic of Ireland services c1990, including DUB-LHR. BA only appear in the Republic under the colours of one of their assocaite carriers"

WHAT ABOUT BA'S 4 TIMES DAILY MAINLINE SERVICE DUB LGW OPERATED BY 737'S???
 
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RE: Aer Lingus Has New Livery?

Thu Jan 08, 2004 12:02 am

So that's why we see BA 733's over here.
Dstc47, thanks for the BD info, turned out that they were the cheapest, 77 Euro DUB->LHR return all inclusive  Big thumbs up
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