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Jet-A gasguy
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RE: HNL Rarities ...

Thu Jan 22, 2004 6:26 am

I've seen LH8400 leave HNL between 0800 and 0900. I'm not quite sure if the departure time is the same everyday that it comes in. You might want to check the previous thread (A 727 & Two 737s ...), I think someone posted the exact info.

Uhhhh...Blue, I posted this information in reply #94, three replies above yours. Departure time is 0900.

Yippee! I made 100!

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RE: HNL Rarities ...

Thu Jan 22, 2004 10:45 am

J-AGG,

About LH8400, my bad. Sorry. But, hey dude, congratulations are in order for putting up the 100th post of this thread.



There is a NW 744 on the north ramp. Don't know how long it will be there. Unfortunately, a bunch of condos blocks my total view of the north ramp [NR], there's just a small space I can see what's there. Downtown blocks my view of the LD side of HNL. Parts of the terminal are obstructed from the angle that I'm at, but can see a bunch when HNL is full.
 
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RE: HNL Rarities ...

Thu Jan 22, 2004 10:56 am

I should have checked before posting #101, but HEADS UP!

The Air New Zealand A320 is on its way here from LAX, as ANZ6390 according to FC. The ETA is 1623 HST. I don't know when it's leaving. Does anyone have that info? Which location will it be parked? LD or NR?
 
Jet-A gasguy
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RE: HNL Rarities ...

Thu Jan 22, 2004 12:49 pm

Its departing at 0830 tomorrow(Thursday) Also, it'll be parked at the hardstands.

J-AGG
 
HNLFlyBoy
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RE: HNL Rarities ...

Thu Jan 22, 2004 1:01 pm

Aloha to all of my fellow HNL a.net members! I'm so happy I finally joined F Class, I've flown it enough, you think I would have joined sooner. In any case, this is my second post to the topics. Anybody know what is going on with the ANA 744 parked on the ramp near UA cargo? It's wearing the Pokeman livery. It's been there for a couple of days now. LOTS of G.A. a/c in town last week, I'm guessing due to the Sony Open. Also, thank you for Kona's, get to see those wonderful a/c landing west. That's the best approach into HNL to see them bank over Keehi Lagoon.

Happy (con)Trails to all!
 
ha763
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RE: HNL Rarities ...

Thu Jan 22, 2004 1:16 pm

Here's to hope that it will be there tomorrow. I should be out on the ramp tomorrow.
 
je89_w
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RE: HNL Rarities ...

Thu Jan 22, 2004 4:48 pm

Hope you all will get good shots of the NZ A320, unfortunately I will have to pass on that one.

Welcome to the forums HNLFlyboy!  Smile

Hopefully the NH B744 will stay in HNL, as the weekend approaches.

Wow! This thread is growing! It will probably reach 200 in no time!
 
HNLFlyBoy
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RE: HNL Rarities ...

Thu Jan 22, 2004 4:54 pm

Thanks for the warm welcome Je89_w! I am hoping that Ha763 will have some news to report on the NH 744 that is there. Does anybody know when it is scheduled to depart? I'm thinking it might be a charter since they are only flying that one 763 into HNL nowadays which is a code share with UA. I wouldn't doubt if this thread hit 200, that would be great. Because of our location in the middle of the sea, we do see alot of transition aircraft through here and that's what makes us "rare". Keep the posts coming HNL spotters and fans!
 
je89_w
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RE: HNL Rarities ...

Thu Jan 22, 2004 5:06 pm

Looks like there was nothing unusual that came in today.

Weather was bad too.
 
T prop
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RE: HNL Rarities ...

Thu Jan 22, 2004 5:24 pm

Saw an Air Guard F-15 do an emergency landing on 4R this afternoon. As the fighter flared over the runway I noticed a flash and sparks, it stopped very quickly and in a short distance. Looking through binoculars I saw the reason for the sparks and quick stop, the pilot had used his arresting hook and caught the wire on the end of the runway to stop. Must have had some kind of hydraulic problem.

T prop.
 
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RE: HNL Rarities ...

Thu Jan 22, 2004 6:24 pm

Seen it happen before several years ago. Did he have an escort back? One of the rare times you'll see an F-15 snag a cable. Thank God 4R and 8R have the "barriers". How long did they keep the Eagle on 4R?

When I saw it, they closed 4R for about 20 minutes to make sure everything was okay. HNL Crash/Rescue was also standing by, along with blue HANG vehicles.
 
ha763
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RE: HNL Rarities ...

Fri Jan 23, 2004 9:39 am

The Pokemon jet left today. Saw it towed to Gate 31. I was able to get some pictures of it and will upload it to myaviation.net since I don't have the equipment or time to get good enough quality for airliners.net. Almost caught the OAI 757, but a catering truck drove in front as it taxied by.
 
Bluewave 707
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RE: HNL Rarities ...

Fri Jan 23, 2004 9:46 am

Went out to HNL, but nada! Caught a glimpse of the NH 744 tail, but could not see the Pokemon markings. Saw a PR A340, and a NW 744 (new colors) take off 8R from the GA parking lot @ the end of LD. There's the weekend ahead.

I heard something from SEA supposed to be passing through HNL this weekend.
 
ha763
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RE: HNL Rarities ...

Fri Jan 23, 2004 12:24 pm

 
Bluewave 707
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RE: HNL Rarities ...

Fri Jan 23, 2004 12:54 pm

Ha763,

Nice photos! Seems you work the early shift @ HNL.



Forgot to mention that I saw a JT8D wrapped in blue plastic, on a flat bed truck headed for the AQ cargo area while checking out the Elliott Street ramp this a.m. I'm not sure if the engine was coming in from or going out for major repairs, or if it was a "new" powerplant that AQ acquired.
 
HNLFlyBoy
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RE: HNL Rarities ...

Fri Jan 23, 2004 1:05 pm

GREAT pics Ha763! When did CI start flying the A340 into HNL? I've only seen their 744 here from NRT. It's a beautiful a/c in CI livery, looks very soft. Bluewave, does the NW 744 go to NRT or KIX? I'm just curious.
 
ha763
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RE: HNL Rarities ...

Fri Jan 23, 2004 1:36 pm

HNLFlyboy-CI started flying the A340 to HNL when they began the 2 or 3x weekly non-stop TPE-HNL flights. I want to say that it has been about a year.
 
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RE: HNL Rarities ...

Fri Jan 23, 2004 1:37 pm

I'm not sure which Japanese destination that NW 744 was headed for. It left HNL around 0945 HST if that helps. Check FlyteComm.com (FC), they might have info on it.
 
ha763
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RE: HNL Rarities ...

Fri Jan 23, 2004 1:42 pm

Flyboy,

The 744 goes to NRT. The KIX-HNL route has been suspended for now.
 
HNLFlyBoy
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RE: HNL Rarities ...

Fri Jan 23, 2004 1:49 pm

Ha763 I guess I don't see it because i don't go out that early to HNL. If I go, it's later in the morning, but before all of the Japan flights go out. Thanks for the info. I'm going to the CI site to see how they configure that a/c. I would assume it's an international 3-class config. but you never know nowadays.

Bluewave, I will try and find out where it was heading, NW 744. Thanks for the info.
 
T prop
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RE: HNL Rarities ...

Fri Jan 23, 2004 3:12 pm

Seen it happen before several years ago. Did he have an escort back? One of the rare times you'll see an F-15 snag a cable. Thank God 4R and 8R have the "barriers". How long did they keep the Eagle on 4R?

When I saw it, they closed 4R for about 20 minutes to make sure everything was okay. HNL Crash/Rescue was also standing by, along with blue HANG vehicles.


Hi Bluewave707,

Yes he had an escort and the runway was closed for about half an hour till they towed the F15 away. I saw an emergency landing like this before where as soon as the emergency plane landed, the wing man would stood his jet on its tail, lit the A/B's, and went straight up over the hangars towards the end of 4R. Hope the people in the hangars down there had thier earplugs on!

Saw an Air Asia 737 parked in front of Century today it had this livery:



T prop.
 
je89_w
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RE: HNL Rarities ...

Fri Jan 23, 2004 4:09 pm

Wow! The last time I've seen Air Asia was back in July 2002 in Singapore (rare in SIN). I doubt it will stay as the weekend approaches.  Sad

Nice shots Ha763!  Big thumbs up Now there is "proof" an NH Pokemon B744 has touched HNL soil! Heh! Is that the AKAL truck in the foreground?  Big grin

[Edited 2004-01-23 08:14:18]
 
je89_w
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RE: HNL Rarities ...

Fri Jan 23, 2004 4:17 pm

I reckon China Airlines started the CI002 TPE-HNL route in August 2003.
 
je89_w
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RE: HNL Rarities ...

Fri Jan 23, 2004 4:22 pm

FC and the HNL flight info website does not seem to display any info of the AK B733, neither do they display info of other ferry flights (with the exceptions of CA, CZ, and MU).
 
T prop
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RE: HNL Rarities ...

Fri Jan 23, 2004 4:36 pm

The AK 737 has already left, I didn't get the registration but it was a 'N' number. Not sure if it was being delivered or returned.

T prop.
 
HNLFlyBoy
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RE: HNL Rarities ...

Fri Jan 23, 2004 4:38 pm

Ha763, is that why UA restarted it's KIX-HNL run again? Since NW dropped theirs? I was wondering why they started it up again, UA that is. It's just a shame that they don't run the 744 from here to Asia anymore. I guess from Asia to HNL, they are all considered "leisure" markets and run the T7's.
 
je89_w
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RE: HNL Rarities ...

Fri Jan 23, 2004 4:43 pm

Awww shucks! I would have loved to see that AK B733!

I believe SARS caused UA to switch the aircraft to a B772 from a B744 on the HNL-NRT run.
 
ha763
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RE: HNL Rarities ...

Fri Jan 23, 2004 4:44 pm

Yep, that's AKAL passing by. The truck was just passing by. I actually have 3 more pictures of the 744.

My bad, I should have looked it up, but the non-stop TPE-HNL flight actually resumed in July 2003. The previous CI non-stop service was discontinued in April 2001.
 
je89_w
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RE: HNL Rarities ...

Fri Jan 23, 2004 4:48 pm

You mean CI flew the TPE-HNL route in the past? I'm assuming the flight was operated by a B744. Was the flight number also CI002?

I only remember CI having a HND-HNL route in 2001.
 
ha763
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RE: HNL Rarities ...

Fri Jan 23, 2004 4:50 pm

I'm not sure of why UA restarted KIX-HNL, but NW will resume KIX-HNL on a seasonal basis starting in April using a DC-10-30.
 
je89_w
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RE: HNL Rarities ...

Fri Jan 23, 2004 4:56 pm

Caught my eye in the Aviation Photography section:

https://www.airliners.net/discussions/aviation_photography/read.main/115550/

Sounds sweet! Except it's on a Monday . . . pretty hard for me. Can't wait to see photos of it too!
 
HNLFlyBoy
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RE: HNL Rarities ...

Fri Jan 23, 2004 4:57 pm

Ha763, I miss the three holers...when they took away all of the 74-series across our pond to the Coast, I hated it, but learned to tolerate the DC-10 as they were not my favorite a/c at the time. Now I'm sure it's a treat to fly one to the Coast. I would fly NW just because they still use them. Although, I really want to try CO's Business First to the Coast as well.

Good job everyone, let's keep this thread going to 200!
 
Bluewave 707
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RE: HNL Rarities ...

Fri Jan 23, 2004 6:54 pm

Wow! Lots of info! I missed the AK 733, what time did it arrive and leave?

Have you seen nature's light show going on now??? The weather has caused some mild windshears off of 22L. A couple of storm cells forced QF003 to go around. In fact, QF003 and AC034 were put in a holding pattern way east of Diamond Head. UA056 and AA298 were delayed until a clearing in the wind and rain. I turned off my scanner since. I figured the weather is getting worse, all I got from HNL tower was static.

CI also used their subsidiary Mandarin Airlines to fly the TPE - HNL route. They used 747SPs and MD-11s painted Mandarin's own colors. I have also seen CI operate their MD-11s for the NRT - HNL flight too.

Heck 200! Just keep this thread going! Sky's the limit!
 
je89_w
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RE: HNL Rarities ...

Sat Jan 24, 2004 2:32 am

The weather was pretty bad last night, with lightning and thunder, and gusts of wind.

Let's reach for they sky!  Big grin
 
HNLFlyBoy
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RE: HNL Rarities ...

Sat Jan 24, 2004 2:43 am

post 134! Yeah guys, the weather was way gnarly last night, but I loved the sky show, just glad that I was on the ground and not up there for once. ATC sure had a job last night with all of this going on. I need to get me a scanner and listen too.
 
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RE: HNL Rarities ...

Sat Jan 24, 2004 5:14 am

The NOAA Gulfstream [could not tell which model, I'm assuming a G-V with the LCD cockpit display] is in town to help with the impending weather conditions. I saw on the 2200 KGMB news that on tonight's 2200 broadcast, a report will be filed from one of those NOAA flights.

Unfortunately ... 1) I don't own a TV or VCR [I saw this @ my folk's place], and 2) I have a business meeting tonight, that runs to 2200.

NOAA is forecasting more bad weather over the weekend. HNL ATC may really be working for their paychecks this week. Pray for nice weather this weekend!
 
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RE: HNL Rarities ...

Sat Jan 24, 2004 5:39 am

HNLFlyboy wrote:
is that why UA restarted it's KIX-HNL run again? Since NW dropped theirs?

I believe it also had to do with ANA cutting back their service; from what I remember the UA 772 replaced a NH 747.

David / MRY
 
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RE: HNL Rarities ...

Sat Jan 24, 2004 6:40 am

Since 9-11-01, service to and from HNL out of Japan has suffered a lot. SARS, Iraq Round II, and their fluctuating economy has played a lot in airlines both US and Japanese adjusting the types of planes to service HI.

Yes, UA switched to 772s, but they will occaisionally put a 744 for NRT -HNL when demand permits. NW put NW016/NW015 KIX-HNL on hold for a while. WHen the tourust numbers from Japan begin to increase again, the airlines will adjust with it, and use 744s more often.

Who knows? Maybe NH will use their 772s more often, and JL might use their 773s?

NH's service from other parts of Japan are not daily. Same applies to JL. Smaller markets are served with less frequent flights.


Anyone of any delivery flights in the coming weeks?
 
HNLFlyBoy
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RE: HNL Rarities ...

Sat Jan 24, 2004 7:51 am

Thanks for the info Bluewave! I don't know of anything coming through here in the near future.
 
HNLFlyBoy
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RE: HNL Rarities ...

Sat Jan 24, 2004 7:57 am

Fellow HNL Fans and Spotters, off thread but FYI, I just got an e-mail from [email protected] congratulating me on my 20th post and have been u/g to EXPERIENCED USED class. This has been the best investment of my life joining all of you in F Class. Cheers to us all!
 
je89_w
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RE: HNL Rarities ...

Sat Jan 24, 2004 6:41 pm

Congratulations HNLFlyBoy!

I believe JL's and NH's B773s are only used for domestic runs. So seeing a B772 of JL/NH in HNL is possible.
 
Jet-A gasguy
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RE: HNL Rarities ...

Sat Jan 24, 2004 6:51 pm

There's a brand spankin new Quantas Air Links Dash-8 400 sitting outside of Anderson Aviation. Sources say its leaving early Saturday morning at 0800. Pics anyone?

J-AGG
 
je89_w
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RE: HNL Rarities ...

Sat Jan 24, 2004 6:54 pm

Thanks for the info, J-AGG.  Smile
 
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RE: HNL Rarities ...

Sat Jan 24, 2004 6:59 pm

Was wondering about the JL & NH 772 issue, since JL does have quite a few 742s, which may be headed for retirement in the future. Well, NH retired most of theirs.

What will happen to the Reso'cha program once the new JL takes total effect? Have yet to see a Reso'cha with the new JL markings. Guess we'd better get our "old" JL livery shots while we can.



HNLFlyBoy, congratulations!
 
je89_w
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RE: HNL Rarities ...

Sat Jan 24, 2004 7:18 pm

Actually, the Reso'cha DC-10s are painted with the new JAL livery. But have yet to see it on the B747s.
 
Bluewave 707
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RE: HNL Rarities ...

Sun Jan 25, 2004 8:20 am

A heads up ... HNL traffic is now Kona wind ops.  Big grin
 
ha763
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RE: HNL Rarities ...

Sun Jan 25, 2004 9:05 am

Saw the Qantas Dash-8 leave today. Also, the NH Pokemon 744 made a return visit to HNL today.

Yesterday, saw LH do a go around. At first I thought it was a F-15, but looked up and saw a MD-11. On its second attempt, came in fast and the pilots put the MD-11 on the ground in a hurry. They were at full reverse before they even past the ARFF station.

As for what the Resocha livery looks like with JAL's new livery:


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Bluewave 707
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RE: HNL Rarities ...

Sun Jan 25, 2004 2:11 pm

Ha763,

Thanks for posting the new JL Reso'cha colors. Did you get a shot of the QantasLink Dash8-400?



How's this ... I got out to HNL to spot, figuring I could get shots of airliners taxiing out to 26L, right when I get there, ATC changed back to tradewind ops. In the words of Homer Simpson, "Doh!". An HA 763 (N588HA), HA22, was routed for 26L, but then ordered to make the right turn from T/W RT to T/W RA and to depart 8R

But there are some rare birds on the LD side  Smile ... A BBJ (N171QS), an ex-USAir 737 (N336US), and a Shanghai Airlines 737NG.

The BBJ arrived and parked at Bradley. Managed to get a few shots. After I took my last pic, alady driving a gold Mercedes coming out from Pacific Air Cargo, asked me not to take photos there. Don't know who she was. Pretty though. Bradley offers one of the best photo spots, for those of us who don't have ramp access. A black Lincoln TownCar pulled up to the BBJ, but could not see anyone deplane, since fueler trucks were blocking my view.

The Shanghai 737NG is parked in front of the AirService Hawaii (ASH) hangar. The ex-US 737 was parked in front of Century Aviation (CA) after it arrived, but the pilot said they were parking @ ASH. Couldn't get a decent shot of the ex-US either.

My guess is the ex-US is headed for a new home somewhere in Asia, maybe Phuket Air, since they picked up other USAir 732s.

I'll probably take a drive out there tomorrow, and check it out.  Smile
 
HNLFlyBoy
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RE: HNL Rarities ...

Sun Jan 25, 2004 2:26 pm

Hey guys, I got one for y'all. Today during Kona's, I saw a 733 coming in over Kewalo Basin. I was driving on Auahi street and couldn't make out the livery. Yes, one I didn't know, but I know it was a 733. Ok, I think it looked liked the Air Asia 733 that was posted in one of the replies here, but not sure. Is that a/c still here and was it possibly doing test runs or something around the Islands? I know one of you can answer this...so go for it and let me know.

thanks
 
Bluewave 707
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RE: HNL Rarities ...

Sun Jan 25, 2004 2:46 pm

Sorry folks, in all the excitement of wanting to post the news in #147, I failed to run checks on N171QS and N336US, to find out the ownership. Here's what I found ...

N171QS: belongs to NetsJets. From the photos in the a.net DB, it looks like it's been around the world, or at least Europe more than a few times. Sharp looking colors.

N336US: Was N315P with Piedmont, a 737-301 model. Re-registered after the US take over of PI. I don't know when US retired "336". The US tail logo was blacked out, except for the rudder. I'm sure the titles were painted over, but I couldn't see it.

Both 73s arrived within 15 minutes of each other.

I'll check the DB before I post info next time, to make sure the info is complete.



HNLFlyBoy,

What time was it when you saw the 733? The Kona's turned to trades after 1400.
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