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RE: HNL Rarities ...

Mon Mar 01, 2004 6:09 pm

As far as I could tell, it was normal trade wind ops today, and 8R was open. The wind was blowing (from wind checks & ATIS) between 130° to 150° with speeds from 10 - 20 kts, this was throughout the course of the day.
 
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RE: HNL Rarities ...

Tue Mar 02, 2004 5:19 am

Guys,

This is just the best thread ever!

I have visited Hawaii on two occasions now and you just live in the best part of the world, the best scenery, beaches and airport.

If I could get a job there I would move tomorrow!

I regularly look at the thread throughout the day an instantly feel better.

When I first visited in 1997 I flew UA935, London Heathrow-LA-Honolulu, 777 and 757, hence the user ID.

Keep up the good work with the thread for all of us that can't reside there.

Regards Simon.
 
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RE: HNL Rarities ...

Tue Mar 02, 2004 11:23 am

UA935,

Thank you for those kind words, we HNL spotters appreciate that. You guys there in the London area got a bunch of airports to spot at, with your fair share of rarities.

Hope you make it back this way soon. The beaches and the girls are waiting for you.
 
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Tue Mar 02, 2004 1:44 pm

This is dedicated to the Date Street Kid!

Today's HNL Blast from the Past!



Enjoy! Mt. Leahi does not get any better!



 
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RE: HNL Rarities ...

Tue Mar 02, 2004 1:49 pm

Awww what the heck!

It does get better!!!!!

A Stratocruiser HNL Blast form the Past!

PAA at John Rodgers. WOW!



If you look carefully you can see Trippler above the cockpit.
 
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RE: HNL Rarities ...

Tue Mar 02, 2004 2:11 pm

Mahalo for the pics, Clipperhawaii. I'd love to have a framed poster of that UA Stratocruiser on my wall. I really love that particular UA livery! Love to see those on their B777, if there was a chance.
 
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RE: HNL Rarities ...

Tue Mar 02, 2004 5:10 pm

Never got to see one of those machines. The "oldest" things I've seen were:
  • AQ B732 old colors

  • United old colors

  • And some other stuff, can't quite remember at the moment.
     
    Bluewave 707
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    RE: HNL Rarities ...

    Tue Mar 02, 2004 5:39 pm

    Clipperhawaii,

    You always manage to pull a rabbit out of a hat, in today's case TWO rabbits! A PA & a UA 377 on the same day. AWESOME!  Smile What do you have planned next? I can't wait to see the next Blast From The Past!
     
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    RE: HNL Rarities ...

    Tue Mar 02, 2004 6:46 pm

    Just checked FC, there was a Southern AIr 742F that arrived @ 1600 HST from BWI as SOO706. Did anyone see it? Is it still on the SR or NR? Or did it go to HIK?
    They used to fly contract for Kalitta a while back.

    Has anyone seen the Kitty Hawk 722F recently? FC lists its arrival between 1400 and 1430, and comes from PHX. Kitty Hawk's site says the flights run from Tuesday to Friday.

    On FC there's a NZ flight from ORD as NZ6970. It's been discussed before. Someone said it might be a code-share. Well, NZ is part of the Star Alliance, BUT UA does not have an ORD-HNL flight. The only other airline that has an ORD-HNL flight is AA, but that flight arrives in the afternoon. I ran the flight number @ NZ's site, and came up with nothing. The same with the state's airport flight info.

    Which gets me to thinking, how reliable is FC's info?
     
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    RE: HNL Rarities ...

    Wed Mar 03, 2004 9:46 am

    Didn't see any 742Fs on the NR, just an OAI 752 and UA 752. I didn't really take a good look, but the only thing that stood out was an all-white 747F.

    The most exciting thing I saw today was a NW 742 in new colors. Forgot to look at the reg. Now all we need is for NW to paint a DC-10-30 in the new colors and send it here.
     
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    RE: HNL Rarities ...

    Wed Mar 03, 2004 12:38 pm

    Bluewave,

    can you post a link to FC? Is is a subcription service? I thought I had it at one time, but I don't know.

    HNLFB
     
    Bluewave 707
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    RE: HNL Rarities ...

    Wed Mar 03, 2004 1:32 pm

    FlyteComm link ---> http://www.flytecomm.com The flight info is free, but there are paid software available through them.



    Was 8R closed during midday? Could have sworn I seen a JL DC-10-40 & 743 depart 8L from downtown. It looked too close to have taken off from 8R. It was around 1100-1115.

    That all-white 742 may have been the 9S that came in yesterday.
     
    Bluewave 707
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    RE: HNL Rarities ...

    Wed Mar 03, 2004 2:21 pm

    Heads Up! HNL Spotters...

    Two rarities are inbound tomorrow, listed on FC:

    Icelandair #1035 is coming in @ 0100 from Yuma, AZ, it's a 752.

    Saturn Air #706 is coming in @0545 from Baltimore, MD, it's a 742F
     
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    RE: HNL Rarities ...

    Wed Mar 03, 2004 2:56 pm

    Arrggghh, another two planes I will have to miss!  Sad

    Check reply #8 of this thread to the direct link of the tracker.

    Quite a bit of rarities this week! 08L departures, and the two arriving tomorrow morning. Thanks for the info!
     
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    RE: HNL Rarities ...

    Wed Mar 03, 2004 2:59 pm

    Saturn Air? What is that? The only Saturn I know of last flew in the 70's.

    Any info on Saturn Air of today?
     
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    RE: HNL Rarities ...

    Wed Mar 03, 2004 4:12 pm

    Actually that "Saturn Air" is Southern Air!  Big grin Hehe.
     
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    RE: HNL Rarities ...

    Wed Mar 03, 2004 5:23 pm

    Hmmm...I wonder if I can get out of the office and onto the to see these aircraft. Here's to hoping that they are around all day and don't turn and leave. I'll bring my camera to work tomorrow.
     
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    RE: HNL Rarities ...

    Wed Mar 03, 2004 6:06 pm

    Hope you guys get good shots of it! My guess is that the Icelandair B752 will park on the South Ramp.

    Or perhaps this is military transport? But that should be listed under "HIK" on FC, instead of "HNL". Any info about it?
     
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    RE: HNL Rarities ...

    Wed Mar 03, 2004 6:16 pm

    Clipperhawaii,

    Thanks for catching my mistake. I was having one of those 70s flashbacks. You know!
    I meant Southern Air. I apologize.



    FC won't display HIK info, probably because it's a military base. National security issue.



    I'll be checking HNL tomorrow morning.

    [Edited 2004-03-03 10:48:00]
     
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    RE: HNL Rarities ...

    Wed Mar 03, 2004 6:40 pm

    Wow...I'm in awe. It still hasn't ceased to amaze me that you guys can still find stuff to talk about in this thread! Nice work!  Laugh out loud

    Cheers,
    QantasA332
     
    Bluewave 707
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    RE: HNL Rarities ...

    Wed Mar 03, 2004 7:01 pm

    QA332,

    Considering all the interesting stuff that passes through here, and the history of this place, this thread can and will go on forever.

    Some of the QF 738s have been stopping over on its way Down Under from Seattle.

    We give you the honors to start an "Aussie Rarities" thread.  Smile
     
    Bluewave 707
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    RE: HNL Rarities ...

    Wed Mar 03, 2004 7:20 pm

    Bummer ...

    Detailed Flight Information:
    Icelandair Flight 1035 to Honolulu, HI
    (HNL-Honolulu International Airport)

    Airline Icelandair
    Flight Number 1035
    Departure City (Airport) Honolulu, HI (HNL)
    Departure Time 03/03/2004 03:30 AM
    Arrival City (Airport) , (GUM)
    Arrival Time
    Remaining Flight Time 07:45 (planned)
    Aircraft Type Boeing 757-200
    Current Altitude 0 feet
    Current Groundspeed 0 mph
    Flight Status Planned
     
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    RE: HNL Rarities ...

    Thu Mar 04, 2004 7:53 am

    Had a great time in Hawaii.

    Here is a sample of what I brought back with me

    http://www.clickhappy.com/to_home/dsc_7170_n476ha.jpg
     
    ha763
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    RE: HNL Rarities ...

    Thu Mar 04, 2004 9:13 am

    No Icelandair 757 since it left too early, but I got to see the Southern Air 747 taxi out at around 0930. I was too busy to take a picture. I also saw a Chinook come down taxi around taxiway D and then B while hovering around 10 ft above the ground. Never actually saw where it ended up landing, if it even landed at all.
     
    Bluewave 707
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    RE: HNL Rarities ...

    Thu Mar 04, 2004 11:18 am

    Clickhappy,

    What other photos did you take? Nice shot of the HA 712.
     
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    RE: HNL Rarities ...

    Thu Mar 04, 2004 1:35 pm

    FC displays cargo flights under "HIK", I guess there weren't any just now.

    Nice shot of the SA)">HA B712, Royal!  Big thumbs up

    DJ's B737s stop by in SA - Hawaii">OGG for delivery instead of SA - Hawaii">HNL. SA - Hawaii">OGG has an Airservice Hawaii there too.

    Did the Southern Air Transport have this logo?

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    Photo © Colin Parker


    Or did the tail display an "SA"? Or was it all white?
     
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    RE: HNL Rarities ...

    Thu Mar 04, 2004 1:38 pm

    Hmmm, looks like the airport codes in my previous post went crazy!  Nuts
     
    ha763
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    RE: HNL Rarities ...

    Thu Mar 04, 2004 3:45 pm

    The tail had "SA". Plus it had the pax doors outlined.
     
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    RE: HNL Rarities ...

    Thu Mar 04, 2004 6:21 pm

    Went out to the GA lot, not much to see around 1130-1200, but was talking with a fellow spotter, when Akal truck 39 drove by inside the fence, he kept on going even though we were standing outside, and there were others standing around as well. A few minutes later, an HSD cruiser circled the lot, looked at all of us, but drove off. No one had cameras out.

    In fact, if either HSD or Akal tells you it's illegal to take photos, you have the right to POLITELY ask which state law are you violating. If they are vague, you can ask them for the exact staute, as a citizen it is your right.

    Remember, the FAA said it's okay, there are no DoT, FAA, or TSA laws regarding taking pix. If they insist that its FAA, accomodate them. Ignorance is curable, stupidity isn't.

    In regards to scanners, they are legal in Hawaii. Just keep them out of sight of Akal or HSD, they get a bit paranoid, and exert their "authority", when they see one of those in your hand. I speak from experience.
     
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    RE: HNL Rarities ...

    Fri Mar 05, 2004 4:10 am

    With all the UA flights in and out of HNL, I wonder when we'll get to see a 772 in the new colors. Is there any UA employees that has access to that info? How many UA jets are in the new colors?
     
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    RE: HNL Rarities ...

    Fri Mar 05, 2004 4:26 am

    A while, the UAL 777's being painted first are the non-ER models, which fly to Europe mostly.
     
    Bluewave 707
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    RE: HNL Rarities ...

    Fri Mar 05, 2004 4:49 am

    Clickhappy,

    Thanks for the update.

    By the way, how can we view your other photos @ clickhappy.com?

    Hope you got some great shots.
     
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    RE: HNL Rarities ...

    Fri Mar 05, 2004 7:09 am

    Bluewave 707

    I haven't had a lot of time to process all the pictures I took, but here are a couple of samples:

    http://www.clickhappy.com/to_home/dsc_7364_n821al.jpg

    http://www.clickhappy.com/to_home/dsc_7182_ja8532.jpg

    http://www.clickhappy.com/to_home/dscn4855_n699ha.jpg
     
    Bluewave 707
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    RE: HNL Rarities ...

    Fri Mar 05, 2004 11:13 am

    Clickhappy,

    Great shots as always!



    Went out to HNL today, but nothing much especially with the rain. The Kamaka DC-3 is now parked tail first in the Genavco hangar, with its wings removed.

    Will try again tomorrow.

    More shots have been posted on MA.net  Smile Will try to work on them for this site.
     
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    RE: HNL Rarities ...

    Fri Mar 05, 2004 2:03 pm

    Nice shots Clickhappy and Bluewave!  Big thumbs up

    The non B772ER models seldom come to HNL. Bluewave, remember the time we saw each other at LD? We saw a UA B772? That was a non-ER model because the registration number was N7**UA instead of the usual N2**UA.

     
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    RE: HNL Rarities ...

    Fri Mar 05, 2004 4:38 pm

    HNL always get the A-market 777. That's the only 777 UA sends to HNL from the mainland.
     
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    RE: HNL Rarities ...

    Fri Mar 05, 2004 4:46 pm

    Ha763,

    we don't always get the A-market 777. The two Japan flights, NRT and KIX operate a worldwide version of the T7, which is a three-class configuration and not a two class like the ones that come from the Mainland. Are the NRT and KIX a/c considered ER versions? I have gotten the reg. #'s so I wouldn't know. Does anybody know?
     
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    RE: HNL Rarities ...

    Fri Mar 05, 2004 6:29 pm

    Thanks Je89_W, I checked the reg # of the UA 772, it was N788UA. I rode a UA 772 in March 2002, the reg for that was N211UA. So I'm guessing that was an ER? Was that an anomaly for an 772ER to go from HNL to LAX?

    I'm going to be uploading more photos to MA.net, when I can
     
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    RE: HNL Rarities ...

    Sat Mar 06, 2004 9:27 am

    HNLFlyboy,

    The A-market 777s are non-ER 777s. These are the ones that UA uses between Hawaii and the mainland. UA has 2 777 flights each from SFO and LAX and 1 from DEN.
     
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    RE: HNL Rarities ...

    Sat Mar 06, 2004 11:13 am

    Actually, the Valentines Day was the first time I've seen an A-market B772 of UA (N788UA and N799UA). In the past, I've noticed N2**UAs operating both HNL-Japan or HNL-Mainland routes.
     
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    RE: HNL Rarities ...

    Sat Mar 06, 2004 2:50 pm

    Both the ER and non-ER UA 777s use both the N7 and N2 numbers as regs. The 1995-1998 deliveries use N7**UA and 1999 on deliveries use N2**UA. UA had a few non-ER 777s delivered in 2000 and they have a N2**UA reg.
     
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    RE: HNL Rarities ...

    Sat Mar 06, 2004 2:52 pm

    Bluewave,

    N211UA is a non-ER 777.
     
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    RE: HNL Rarities ...

    Sat Mar 06, 2004 3:58 pm

    Sorry to drive this into the ground, but after lots of research I found a thread that shows nose numbers of the different 777 configs. A 777 with a nose number 25xx are 2-class 777s, which are N210UA-N215UA and would explain why you would see a lot of N2**UA regs. N788UA and N799UA are ERs with a nose number in the 27xx series.

    https://www.airliners.net/discussions/general_aviation/read.main/544672/4/
     
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    RE: HNL Rarities ...

    Sat Mar 06, 2004 4:59 pm

    Ha763,

    Thank you for the research on UA's 772s. Come to think of it, N211UA was a 2-class bird with no PTVs. Does the A-market 772s have PTVs? Thankfully it had Channel 9 on the cockpit for the whole flight.



    HNL had nothing of interest today. I believe we are due for either a rare bird to pass through, or some Kona winds. Both would be nice.  Big grin
     
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    RE: HNL Rarities ...

    Sun Mar 07, 2004 4:18 am

    The 23xx series which are A-market, 3-class, and used to Europe have PTVs in all classes. I'm pretty sure the 25xx series doesn't even have them in first.
     
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    RE: HNL Rarities ...

    Sun Mar 07, 2004 4:49 am

    Just saw on FC that another An-124 is headed our way. It's Volga-Dnepr flight 379, from Orlando, FL (MCO). It's scheduled to arrive @ 1933.

    I hope it's still out @ HNL tomorrow, I'll be close to HNL around 1130. I'll let you guys know if I can see it tomorrow morning from my lanai.



    By the way ... we've gone over 17,000 hits! And closing in on 600 posts!

    [Edited 2004-03-06 20:56:33]
     
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    RE: HNL Rarities ...

    Sun Mar 07, 2004 9:43 am

    Wow, the UA B772 configurations can be quite confusing!  Nuts

    Nothing special out in HNL today. Yesterday, saw an all-white B752 land on 08R (18:15) and taxied into HIK.
     
    Bluewave 707
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    RE: HNL Rarities ...

    Sun Mar 07, 2004 3:35 pm

    Went out around 1600, that all-white 752 departed under the call-sign "Terra 41".

    There is a 707 out @ ASH, but you can only see the tail from LD. Did some research ... this is what I found:

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    Photo © Craig Murray


    It's N88ZL, a 707-330B (ex-LH).

    Would like to catch it taxiing out to 8R on RT.  Smile



    Haven't been able to catch a glimpse of the VDA An-124. Will post something in the morning.

    Met a fellow spotter from DFW here for vacation, 2 HSD cruisers passed by without a word. I gave him a heads-up about cameras out @ LD.
     
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    RE: HNL Rarities ...

    Sun Mar 07, 2004 4:53 pm

    Thanks for the info on the B703.  Smile In that case, I'll try make a trip to HNL tomorrow morning!
     
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    RE: HNL Rarities ...

    Sun Mar 07, 2004 5:21 pm

    I don't know if this was mentioned or not, but does anyone remember about that chartered Lauda B763 flight around the world? I heard it was supposed to stop over at HNL, and that Lauda himself would pilot the a/c. Does anyone have a picture of that?

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