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RE: HNL Rarities ...

Sun Mar 07, 2004 5:45 pm

No one so far has posted a pic of the Lauda 763 @ HNL in question. However, there is a shot on the db of it @ LAX, after leaving HNL. That was a few months ago. I don't think no one got the Condor 763 that passed through either. Oh well ... next time!
 
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RE: HNL Rarities ...

Sun Mar 07, 2004 5:46 pm

The NG B763 passed HNL a while back, just scroll up this thread, you'll find it hidden in one of the 600 replies! Unfortunately it came on a weekday so I all of us missed it.
 
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RE: HNL Rarities ...

Sun Mar 07, 2004 5:47 pm

Just beat me by a second! We'll see who gets 1000!  Big grin
 
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RE: HNL Rarities ...

Sun Mar 07, 2004 5:55 pm

Seems that people our posting about our thread in other forums. Some seem to be irritated.

https://www.airliners.net/discussions/site_related/read.main/19138/
https://www.airliners.net/discussions/site_related/read.main/19020/
 
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RE: HNL Rarities ...

Sun Mar 07, 2004 6:10 pm

Don't mind DALKDKSDLKJ. He's just jealous that he hasn't been to Hawaii.
 
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RE: HNL Rarities ...

Sun Mar 07, 2004 6:19 pm

FYI: I posted this reply to the bottom link in Je89_W's previous post ... seems like some people are jealous.


As the starter for the "HNL Rarities ..." thread, let me first say that I had no idea that the thread would be going this strong, now over 600 posts & 17,000 views. I merely started it as a way to keep my fellow spotters @ HNL up to date with what rare birds were passing through.

If there those out there annoyed @ the "success" of the thread, here's an idea, start a thread to report rare birds @ your home airport. I wish you success in your Rarities thread.

There are other airports around the world that has a lot more birds passing through. I have seen other locations start a similar thread.



People are entitled to their opinons, so am I. Thank God, I am an American! God Bless America!
 
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RE: HNL Rarities ...

Mon Mar 08, 2004 2:48 am

As of 0745, the VDA An-124 is parked on the NR, closer to the UA Cargo building. A good photo op indeed. The last one that came in several days ago parked in the same spot.

Sorry, can't see the LD side of HNL. Don't know if N88ZL is still @ ASH.

Happy spotting!
 
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RE: HNL Rarities ...

Mon Mar 08, 2004 6:30 am

Ai, forgot all about N88ZL! Looks like I'll have to miss her, since I'll be busy all afternoon.  Sad
 
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RE: HNL Rarities ...

Mon Mar 08, 2004 1:30 pm

Went out @ 1130 as scheduled, and both the 707 & the An-124 had left. Oh well ... There will be other planes!
 
T prop
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RE: HNL Rarities ...

Mon Mar 08, 2004 1:58 pm

There was a China Postal Airlines 733 on the south ramp this morning. It was parked near the old HATS hangar on the UPS side, Air Service was fueling it from a hydrant pit there. Didn't see if it was still there this afternoon.

BTW, I didn't know that transient aircraft used a hydrant pit on the south ramp for fuel, I've only seen them use tankers so far. I know UPS and Fedex use hydrants for fuel.

T prop.
 
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RE: HNL Rarities ...

Mon Mar 08, 2004 2:48 pm

Wow! 3 rarities today! I should've woken up early to get out there!  Sad

Well there are posts in the NonAviation forum with 1000+ replies!  Wow!
 
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RE: HNL Rarities ...

Mon Mar 08, 2004 2:50 pm

I was out on the ramp around 0800 and didn't see N88ZL on the south ramp. The An-124 was parked out there with a LH MD-11. Also, a Gemini DC-10 was at Hickam today.
 
je89_w
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RE: HNL Rarities ...

Mon Mar 08, 2004 2:53 pm

What time did the China Postal Airlines leave?
 
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RE: HNL Rarities ...

Mon Mar 08, 2004 3:15 pm

Just changing the subject a little, but is HNL one of the most unfriendliest airports in the world? I've noticed other airports have a recreation area (full of shops, restaurants, cafés, etc.) before security checkpoints.

I'll compare with Singapore. Singapore Changi is like a recreation area (outside of the ticketed area). I've spent a day there looking at shops, eating at different cafés, and just spotting planes. Retired people sit on the benches watching planes, while talking politics. But HNL is depressing. The public can't go inside the terminal. It's boring outside.

There should be some changes to our airport. Make it more pretty (by planting more trees around the roads) and people-friendly. And even international arrivals; going to the customs is like a maze. You take the Wikiwiki bus that is hot as a toaster, to the customs. You go down the escalators and then a bunch of guards herd you like cattle to which-ever line.

What do you think? Our open air galleries are good. But there should be more changes!
 
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RE: HNL Rarities ...

Mon Mar 08, 2004 3:21 pm

Unfriendliest, you mean facility-wise, right? In that case, I do agree that HNL does need improvement. HNL still reminds me of episodes of Hawaii 5-0. But then again, we already have Waikiki to look forward to. I do agree that HNL need a beautification update. More palm trees!!!
 
je89_w
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RE: HNL Rarities ...

Mon Mar 08, 2004 4:36 pm

Yes, facility-wise. And the guards are mean too . . . they are cold.

I mean keep the open-air terminals, but make the building more nicer. Make a second story . . . one for the public. Put cafés on the second floor. If they want to keep the open air terminals, deploy a few guards to walk around to make sure no body does anything stupid like throwing a bomb or jumping off the ledge. Of course, our state would need more $$$.
 
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RE: HNL Rarities ...

Mon Mar 08, 2004 5:28 pm

Something just took off on 08L at 22:24 HST. Seems to be a large aircraft. Unusual sound too.
 
T prop
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RE: HNL Rarities ...

Mon Mar 08, 2004 5:44 pm

What time did the China Postal Airlines leave?

Not sure, I didn't notice it there this afternoon. The registration was B-5046.

T prop.
 
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RE: HNL Rarities ...

Mon Mar 08, 2004 6:42 pm

HNL is a unique airport. Not many US airport has got coconut trees near the tarmac (other than the other HI airports), bikini-clad lei greeters (for Japanese tourists), and an open air terminal. Think about it, one could walk from Gate 6 (Diamond Head wing) all the way to Gate 34 (Ewa wing), and over to the Inter-island terminal passing through security only once.

Clipperhawaii will agree with me on this, the state dropped the ball on creating an observation deck over the center concourse when they re-built it with Jetways. I believe I've talked about this before. It would also provide the last chance shot of someone with Diamond Head in the background.

Most of the mainland airports in the US that I've been to (LAX, PDX, SFO, OAK, LGB, & SEA) have all their shops and eateries beyond security. PDX is the exception, there is a food court, and some shops before security. Personally, I'd rather walk aorund the gate areas taking photos.

Back in the "A 727 ..." thread, C_R posted a report that the state wants to bring back the fountains that were taken away. They should, it would add further character to HNL. I don't mean to sound political, but in this time of raising taxes (especially county property taxes), the politicos have to spend our tax dollars wisely. Mayor Harris wants these "legacy" pork barrel, stupid spending projects before he leaves office, when HPD officers, paramedics & HFD firefighters are asking for a pay raise. Ex-Governor Waihee mis-spent the money earmarked for a new international arrivals terminal east of Gate 6, extending to the NR.

Personally, I would like to see the fountains return. But that money should be spent to replace Akal armed security with more HSD deputies. Why should the state pay an outside contractor? The lowest bidder? You get what you pay for. WE are paying for security, there should not be a price out on it. Akal can still do the parking control and such, but HSD must more have responsibilities in and around HNL (and other HI airports), like bag theft control in lobby areas, car searches by the parking entrances, perimeter patrols inside the fence ...

Some of the security guards need to understand that respect is not automatic. NO ONE respects someone who is a "badge-flasher on a power trip". If they want respect, treat others with respect. I have seen some of the Akal guards mouth off at people, just to prove who has the authority (Eric Cartman syndrome). Definitely not displaying the Aloha spirit.

I'm sorry I rambled on, but HNL is a special airport, and sometimes I think the state has their head up their rear end with some of their policies, which they claim in the name of security. Yeah, right!
 
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RE: HNL Rarities ...

Mon Mar 08, 2004 6:54 pm

As Kalakaua said, more palm trees would be nice! A lava-rock fountain would certainly be nice too! The entrance/exit to HNL would certainly be nicer. As they say, first impressions really matter.
 
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RE: HNL Rarities ...

Mon Mar 08, 2004 7:10 pm

On the point about being able to walk end to end, we are fortunate in the sense that airports like LAX, DFW, and others with multiple terminals. You can't wander from terminal to terminal, especially these days when you need a boarding pass to get through security checkpoints.
 
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RE: HNL Rarities ...

Tue Mar 09, 2004 11:39 am

This thread has been a tremendous source for the spotters and enthusiasts in HNL.

This is what this aviation forum is all about. Thanks to all who and continue to contribute to it.







[Edited 2004-03-09 03:43:40]
 
 
ha763
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RE: HNL Rarities ...

Tue Mar 09, 2004 12:01 pm

If you can't see Clipperhawaii's picture, you will have to copy the link and paste it into a new window since you apparently can't link to it:

http://community.webshots.com/s/image3/6/8/65/560865_ph.jpg

About the volcano fountain, it actually was I who brought it up and here's a picture of the fountain

 
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RE: HNL Rarities ...

Tue Mar 09, 2004 12:04 pm

Thanks HA763! Just copy and paste! Pan Am in Hawaii WOW!

I too miss that fountain. The drive into the airport was always great. Now all we see is the post office and a mass of highway both upper and lower.

Nostalgia, got to love it.
 
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RE: HNL Rarities ...

Tue Mar 09, 2004 4:08 pm

Well, HNL isn't the only airport to see "progress" take away nostalgic landmarks. I too miss those fountains, and the way HNL was set up before. Bringing back the fountains will give HNL character.

Clipperhawaii, nice choice for your blast from the past!



I miss the LAX had those distinct satellites, only T3 remains.

KOA is so cool walking the tarmac to board or deplane.  Smile
 
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RE: HNL Rarities ...

Tue Mar 09, 2004 4:33 pm

Wow, this thread is almost 2 months old! Way to keep it goin  Big grin

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je89_w
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RE: HNL Rarities ...

Tue Mar 09, 2004 4:42 pm

I've learned a lot from this thread. I've also received a tremendous amount of information going on at HNL, for the example the An-225. I've also made new friends!  Smile

As Bluewave said, if this irritates you, don't click it. Just ignore it.
 
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RE: HNL Rarities ...

Tue Mar 09, 2004 5:15 pm

FC has this listing ...

Miami Air International (BSK) flight 657 from ITO. The flight originated in PHX, hopped over to OAK, then to ITO, then here. BSK 657 arrived @ HNL @ 1614. The aircraft is a 738.

Will check tomorrow from my lanai. I can see a heavy parked @ hardstand 5, but can't tell
what airline it is.

 
je89_w
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RE: HNL Rarities ...

Tue Mar 09, 2004 5:21 pm

The last time Miami Air parked at the North Ramp hardstands. But before that, the South Ramp was its parking spot.
 
kalakaua
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RE: HNL Rarities ...

Tue Mar 09, 2004 5:34 pm

Wow! That is one neat looking fountain. When was this torn down?! They should regret for doing so. Thanks HA763!

I still haven't contributed anything. Here's mines.
 
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RE: HNL Rarities ...

Tue Mar 09, 2004 5:39 pm

Great photo! What clutter now around HNL. Hey... but at least it's our home!

Aloha gang!

 
je89_w
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RE: HNL Rarities ...

Tue Mar 09, 2004 5:43 pm

Nice shot! I remember taking off from runway 08L from an AQ B732 and sat on the starboard side back in 1996. I remember the fantastic view of LD. Since then, never went to the neighbor islands again.
 
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RE: HNL Rarities ...

Wed Mar 10, 2004 4:28 am

Can't tell if the BSK 738 is still @ HNL. Looking on the forum, there's thread reporting that BSK has a new livery, and a link to BSK's website. I checked it out, it's a lot different than the current. So it got me to thinking if the 738 here is in the new colors. I'm going out there inthe next hour to see for myself, and i'll let you all know.
 
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RE: HNL Rarities ...

Wed Mar 10, 2004 8:59 am

The Miami Air 738 was parked @ ASH, and was in the "old" colors. As far as I could tell, from the corner lot, it did not have winglets. There were a set of stairs next to the 738, but the door was closed. It did not seem like it was going anywhere soon.

I thought it was going to leave when I got there (around noon) , since I saw a tour bus coming out from the street that goes to ASH, I was wrong.

Hopefully one of you fellow HNL spotters will get a shot of it as it taxies out on RT. Won't be able to go back until Thursday.
 
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RE: HNL Rarities ...

Wed Mar 10, 2004 2:17 pm

What does Miami Air bring in? Tourists, charter group, executive transport?

As far as charters go, we have seen Lauda Air this year but who else?

And when was the last time British Airways flew a charter into Hawaii? I have only seen them once quite a long time ago. Has anyone ever seen Cathay in HNL. I have never heard of them bringing in an aircraft ever.
 
je89_w
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RE: HNL Rarities ...

Wed Mar 10, 2004 3:34 pm

Was told that the Miami Air comes here to transport prisoners to the mainland.

Have a shot of Miami Air taking off. Will rescan and submit.

Wow, A.net standards shot really high! These were rejected:
https://airliners.net/procphotos/rejphoto.main?filename=ci744_21404_2.jpg
https://airliners.net/procphotos/rejphoto.main?filename=jl_dc-10_21404_2.jpg
https://airliners.net/procphotos/rejphoto.main?filename=ha763_21404.jpg
Some from this past Valentines Day.
 
kalakaua
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RE: HNL Rarities ...

Wed Mar 10, 2004 3:39 pm

Those photos look great to me. I guess it depends on the screener. He must have been in a bad mood.
 
T prop
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RE: HNL Rarities ...

Wed Mar 10, 2004 3:54 pm

Miami Air transports prisoners to the mainland. Saw them loading up today.

Here's one parked in front of Air Service.


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Photo © Georg S.



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Bluewave 707
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RE: HNL Rarities ...

Wed Mar 10, 2004 5:37 pm

That would explain the BSK flight originating in PHX. The state Dept of Corrections has prison inmates housed in AZ. I suppose the stop in ITO was to drop off or pick up inmates from the prison down there before coming to HNL.

The state has also used Tradewinds (WI), Rich Int'l (JN), and TZ to transport inmates. Seen it on the news before.

I did see a few black SUVs cruising the perimeter before I left HNL today.
 
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RE: HNL Rarities ...

Thu Mar 11, 2004 4:12 am

Here's a "Defender of the Hawaiian Skies" "Blast From The Past"


MyAviation.net photo:
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Photo © Ivan Nishimura



Clipperhawaii, remember these guys roaring down 8L?
 
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RE: HNL Rarities ...

Thu Mar 11, 2004 4:18 am

Bluewave,
I just wanted to say "congrats" for starting the longest running, 'greatest number of posts' thread since I've been here on A.net
Quite impressive!!! As is HNL...an absolute mecca (for plane spotting, as well)!
 
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RE: HNL Rarities ...

Thu Mar 11, 2004 4:39 am

Those F-102's always looked nice along with the Pan Am 707's, Qantas 707's, Air New Zealand DC-8's, Japan Air Lines DC-8's, BOAC VC-10's, and United's Super 8's to the Aloha State.

8L has certainly seen a mix of aircraft considering that little piece of real estate is so far away from any other large land mass.

Today's "Blast From The Past"

United's DC-6 on the "old' side of the field.

 
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RE: HNL Rarities ...

Thu Mar 11, 2004 8:27 am

About 10 minutes ago, I think that AN-??? flew over my house. It sounded really big and when I looked outside, it could have been it. Not really sure though. Was it scheduled to come in today? I guess I could check FC myself.

Aaway, thank you for the positive feedback on the thread. I have read some negative feedback on it and really don't appreciate it. Bluewave has started something really good here and others have followed. I just saw a JFK one, but it's not titled "Rarities" it is something else and in the Forum now.

Clipperhawaii, love today's "Blast from the Past". Great shot!

 
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RE: HNL Rarities ...

Thu Mar 11, 2004 10:18 am

HNLFB,

Checked FC for both HNL & HIK, no Antonovs scheduled to arrive today. Looked from my lanai, and did not see anything. Could it have been a C-5A? What time was that (local)?



Clipperhawaii,

Another great "Blast From The Past"! Keep up the great selections!  Smile



Aaway,

Thank you for your kind words and moral support.



Have you all seen Royal's awesome shots on the DB? I'm sure he's got more to post from his trip here.

 
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RE: HNL Rarities ...

Thu Mar 11, 2004 12:55 pm

Bluewave,

I think it was around 1:30 or so. Yes, I think now that it was a C5-A. It was kinda small to be an Antonov.

HNLFB
 
je89_w
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RE: HNL Rarities ...

Thu Mar 11, 2004 2:21 pm

Great shots Royal! Do you know what would be cool? If we could rent a boat and go out to the other side of the reef runway, and position ourselves so that the heavies would turn just like those famous "in flight" shots. Of course, the Coast Guard would probably chase us away or something.

But just going to the other side of 08R would make me happy. Only been there twice, which was back in Feb 2001.
 
Bluewave 707
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RE: HNL Rarities ...

Thu Mar 11, 2004 7:28 pm

Never been on the south side of 8R. Yes it would be cool to take pix from there, would have to go during low-tide, and NO south swells. It would be less rocky. Or one of the sand bars at the departure end of 8R perhaps?

My dad says that the HIK golf course offers a good view of RB and the departure end of 8R. He went with some friends, and said he saw a bunch of JL 747s, and the usual a.m. traffic. According to a book I have on HIK, there's a small beach near RB, where it looks like a great place to spot, and up close to the action.

One of these days ...
 
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RE: HNL Rarities ...

Fri Mar 12, 2004 6:46 am

Well this looks like the place to find HNL experts! I am coming to HNL next month, can't wait. So I guess from the UK, I'm a Honolulu rarity! Does anyone work at HNL? And a little advice, I am coming to Oahu for a week, which island do you recommend daytripping to?? The Big Island or Kauai?? I have been to Maui and loved it, but thinking of seeing another island.

Thanks!  Smile
 
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RE: HNL Rarities ...

Fri Mar 12, 2004 7:09 am

Aloha Britair!!! Go to Kauai for it's unspoiled beauty or go to Big Island for it's historical beauty!  Smile Also, be a traveller and not a tourist!

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