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Fri Mar 12, 2004 7:23 am

Britair,

For a day trip, either would be a good choice. However, please know that it is harder to get a flight to the Big Island, especially Hilo, than it is to get a flight to Kauai. There are more flights to Kauai than the Big Island.

BTW, I work at HNL.
 
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Fri Mar 12, 2004 8:19 am

Cool! Thanks guys, and Aloha to you both! I guess I will decide when I'm there. Ha763, i will wave from the Wiki-Wiki bus! I'm flying in on Qantas and out on UA or AA, but maybe HA inter-island!
 
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Fri Mar 12, 2004 8:21 am

Of all the islands, I have yet to go to Kauai. But ... I know people who have gone there often, and people from there, and they say it's the island to visit. I was supposed to go, but the trip got cancelled at the last minute.

For a day trip, you would get to see more on Kauai, since it's a lot smaller than the Big Island.
 
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Fri Mar 12, 2004 8:38 am

Thanks Bluewave707. I think Kauai might be the winner, but I must admit the Volcanoes National Park is tempting!!!
 
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Fri Mar 12, 2004 9:06 am


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This one must have been a bit of a surprise. Its a LONG way from home!


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Fri Mar 12, 2004 9:10 am

is this the largest response subject on this site's history?
 
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Fri Mar 12, 2004 9:17 am

is this the largest response subject on this site's history?
 
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RE: HNL Rarities ...

Fri Mar 12, 2004 11:13 am

Maybe in the civil av forum, but you should see the non-av forum. I occasionally look at the thread titles there and there are currently 2 threads with more replys than ours. But, the longest one I have ever seen is the "Do We Want The Euro In The UK?" thread. Started 2 days after this one and nearly twice as much posts, 1253 and counting. However we got them beat on the views by almost 5-1. I never looked at it, but I wonder if anyone complained about it being around too long like some have said about our thread?
 
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Fri Mar 12, 2004 11:52 am

I think Kauai might be the winner, but I must admit the Volcanoes National Park is tempting!!!

I went on holiday to Hawaii (the Big Island) this past January, and, like you, really wanted to see Volcanoes National Park (primarily for flowing lava!!). Unfortunately, activity was down and I saw absolutely nothing other than the odd spew of sulphur, etc. Hiking there is good anyway, but I urge you to check out http://hvo.wr.usgs.gov/kilauea/update/main.html before you decide against Kauai for Hawaii, to see if there is indeed any volcanic activity when you're there...

Sorry to go off topic...hope that helps though...
Cheers,
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RE: HNL Rarities ...

Fri Mar 12, 2004 11:55 am

Mark

I remember being really surprised to see that EAL sitting on the South Ramp near the CO hanger last year. I think it was doing Hajj charters in Asia and it decided to stay a few days in HNL. Hmm, I wonder why? Big grin
 
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Fri Mar 12, 2004 12:55 pm

Today's "HNL Rarities Blast From The Past".

Came across these two smashingly good photos circa 1963.

BOAC passing Waikiki and Diamond Head. Where are all the buildings brah?






 
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Fri Mar 12, 2004 1:19 pm

Ooh! Magic Island was still topped with crushed coral. Remember when the 50th State Fair used to be held there? Most of the buildings that exist in Waikiki today (for that fact, metro HNL), were not there 40 years ago! How times have changed ...

Note the smart name placement of "BOAC" on the engine pylon.

Wow, imagine if we still had BA flying here. Also gone are: SQ, and GA. I believe someone had mentioned CX? Surprising that CX did not have a Hong Kong - HNL route, considering how popular HK was/is with shoppers, and people emigrating from HK to the USA and Canada.
 
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Fri Mar 12, 2004 1:34 pm

Judging by the flight pattern this BOAC 707 took, it seems that a runway 8 departure with the usual right turn to 155 degrees and then passing Diamond Head a left turn to 080 degrees was in use back in 1963.
 
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RE: HNL Rarities ...

Fri Mar 12, 2004 1:36 pm

Wow! Can you compare and contrast?

 
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Fri Mar 12, 2004 1:56 pm

I actually like seeing how little Kaimuki, Manoa, Palolo, and all the other neighborhoods surounding Waikiki and Diamond Head have changed. You can see that these areas were already densely populated back then.
 
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Fri Mar 12, 2004 3:04 pm

The European 747 showed up just before the west coast dock workers strike started. I guess they wanted to be in place to run cargo flights to the west coast. I'm not sure if it actually flew any or not, though.

David / MRY
 
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Fri Mar 12, 2004 4:01 pm

The EAL B742 was here in HNL for the Grand Prix. It was here for a stopover. Several people contacted me, including one of the pilots, about why it was in HNL.

I don't think CX flew to HNL. Their first B772 (B-HNL . . . perfect registration  Big grin) stopped in HNL for delivery. Of course it was back in 1998, way before I had a camera.

Britair, hope you have a good trip. Never been to Kauai before, though I flew over it many times. Beautiful island.

Wow, there is quite a difference when comparing the two photos! Thanks for posting it Clipperhawaii!  Big thumbs up

People from Las Vegas are coming back to Hawaii with the Norwolk flu or whatever it's called. They're investigating whether it's the hotel they stayed in or the airline they flew in (OAI). Know some people that flew OAI, and got sick pretty badly.
 
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Fri Mar 12, 2004 4:38 pm

I'll let this be post 667. I didn't like seeing 666 on the screen.  Acting devilish

 
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RE: HNL Rarities ...

Fri Mar 12, 2004 5:23 pm

FC does not have any rare birds in bound for Friday. May have a slight chance to check HNL out tomorrow. Got a busy weekend ahead won't have time until next week. At least I have my lanai. Today had nothing as well.


Closing in on 20,000 views. I say it will go over before Sunday. As far as 1,000 posts, we're 2/3s of the way there.


Thanks to the people outside of HNL who have posted notes. Britair, have a safe trip here, hope we helped your decision. KBUF737, thanks for the amusing #667.
 
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RE: HNL Rarities ...

Sat Mar 13, 2004 3:17 am

I guess the LH MD-11F is now considered a regular @ HNL, but has anyone seen one of those MD-11Fs in the WOW Cargo alliance colors? Pix on the DB show that the LH tail logo has been replaced by the WOW logo, among other differences.


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Left, is the WOW MD-11F.

Right, the other LH MD-11Fs, with LH colors, have WOW stickers near the aft doors, and each plane has a different colored decal.

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RE: HNL Rarities ...

Sat Mar 13, 2004 3:40 am

there is a Shanghai Airlines 738 at the delivery center @ BFI today, but I don't know if it will be routing thru HNL
 
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Sat Mar 13, 2004 12:19 pm

The winds shifted to Konas around 1145. Went out for a few mins. caught a JL Resocha, and an AQ 73G (messed up a great opportunity). As of 1715 HST it is still in Kona traffic.
 
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RE: HNL Rarities ...

Sat Mar 13, 2004 12:55 pm

Can someone seriously say he has read all the 672 posts of this thread? Raise your hand...

Congratulations, you now need to wear corrective glasses!

(new thread record?)
 
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Sat Mar 13, 2004 2:09 pm

I can assure you that the "HNL Spotters" are a unique group in a unique place called Hawaii. This thread is certainly a reflection of our Aloha spirit to all who are interested in Hawaii and in particular HNL. This thread has always welcomed non HNL visitors and hopefully will continue to do so.

Hawaii is a great place with some fantastic spotters and enthusiasts.

E komo mai!

Aloha pumehana.
 
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Sat Mar 13, 2004 3:56 pm

Francoflier,

FYI - This thread is in My Favorites. As my username indicates, this is my home town and one of my favorite airports, especially for spotting. And as a matter a fact, I have read all of the posts and often go back to re-read certain ones.

D'ailleurs, j'ai la vision parfaitement non corrigée de 20/20
distillateur!

Merci!
 
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RE: HNL Rarities ...

Sat Mar 13, 2004 6:34 pm

Yup as Royal said, there are two brand-new Shanghai Airlines B738s parked infront of ASH.

Hope you have great shots Bluewave! Can't wait to see them.

HNLFB, thread is also in my favorites! Big grin

Clipperhawaii, can't agree more with you!
 
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RE: HNL Rarities ...

Sat Mar 13, 2004 6:38 pm

Clipperhawaii,

You hit the nail on the head! Amen, brother!

If there is one place on the internet where the Aloha Spirit exists, it's right here on this thread.

What have you got cooking for your next HNL Blast From The Past?



As for reading ALL the posts, as Francoflier asks. YES, I have read them all. Sorry, I don't know any French like HNLFB does.



Looks like air traffic has returned to trade wind patterns, from the Kona's earlier today.
FC has nothing rare listed, but who knows what maybe out there tomorrow.
Happy spotting all!


Je89_W,

I missed the two Shanghai 738s. I was at HNL from 1200 to 1220 today, but did not see any 738s along LD. Did you get any shots? You know, if they landed on 26L, they may have taxied to ASH via RA and RT, definitely a great photo op. Bet you are going tomorrow? Either way the wind blows tomorrow, they probably will taxi on RT to 8R or 26L.

Won't be able to get out there until Monday or Tuesday.

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RE: HNL Rarities ...

Sun Mar 14, 2004 2:18 am

I know AC has regular service to HNL, but winter and spring are the only times that they have day flights. Summer and fall go back to the night flights only. Anyway, as of 0700 HST, there is an AC 767 on the NR. Can't tell if its a -200 or a -300. The winds feel like they are coming in from the southeast. We may see Kona wind patterns later today. Right now, it's normal.

Darn, I have a business conference all day today. There will be a couple of breaks where I can watch air traffic from Waikiki. I pray that those of you who'll go out today get some great shots to post on a.net or ma.net, and not get hassled by Akal or HSD. Go for it & God bless.
 
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RE: HNL Rarities ...

Sun Mar 14, 2004 2:26 am

There is a China Southern 737 due in to HNL, local time 12 noon

Airline China Southern Airlines
Flight Number 315
Departure City (Airport) Seattle, WA (BFI)
Departure Time 03/13/2004 08:08 AM
Arrival City (Airport) Honolulu, HI (HNL)
Arrival Time 03/13/2004 12:03 PM
Remaining Flight Time 04:47
Aircraft Type Boeing 737-700
Current Altitude 34,000 feet
Current Groundspeed 479 mph
Flight Status In Flight
 
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RE: HNL Rarities ...

Sun Mar 14, 2004 3:59 am

Thanks Clickhappy!



FYI, found out in the current issue of Airliner World that NetJets has all their US registered fleet with the suffix QS (ie N___QS). Je89_W, I submitted a correction to your Falcon 2000 photo, sorry about that.



Can't wait to read what happened today, when I come home tonight.
 
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RE: HNL Rarities ...

Sun Mar 14, 2004 11:01 am

Bluewave, the Shanghai Airlines B738s were there at 17:00HST 12MAR04 (when I passed by on H-1). I didn't go out ot the airport today (13MAR04) because of the weather. And I'm assuming both B738s didn't leave because they landed so late.

Royal thanks for the info on the CZ B73G!  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

So that would mean there are 3 delivery jets in HNL as I type!  Wow! I will make a trip tomorrow morning and check it out! (I'm guessing the Shanghai B738s are still here).



Bad experience about a Shanghai Airlines B738 back in September 2002. In the morning, I went out and waited at the parking lot for it to taxi on RT to 08R. Instead it took off on runway 22R (!!) and turned really early, so I ended up missing it.

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Thank goodness I nailed it the afternoon it arrived!  Smile

I remember seeing B-2688 (Shanghai Airlines with winglets) stop in HNL. I caught it from Airport Center with my friends camera. The photo was ruined by heatwaves. Will post on MyAvation.net.

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Royal, outstanding shot!  Big thumbs up

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RE: HNL Rarities ...

Sun Mar 14, 2004 12:21 pm

I was just wondering whether this is the longest airliners.net thread eversince... (689!)...

if yes... here's my contribution!  Wink/being sarcastic

Good night!
 
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RE: HNL Rarities ...

Sun Mar 14, 2004 1:24 pm

I saw the Shanghai 738s around 0900. I was hoping to get a closer look when I had to go down Lagoon, but they were already gone when I went around 1040.

The AC 767 on the NR was a -300. NW had a 742 and 744 in new colors plus Philippines Airlines was parked at Gate 11 instead of the usual 25/26.
 
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Sun Mar 14, 2004 4:22 pm

Ha763, thanks for the info regarding the Shanghai Airlines B738s.

Seems that the only aircraft coming in on delivery are B737s (China). At the moment, I don't believe there are any orders for B757s or B767s, just B737s. I remember having the chance to nail an XO B752 in HNL. Also remember seeing the HU B763s too.
 
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RE: HNL Rarities ...

Sun Mar 14, 2004 6:01 pm

A pilot of NZ50 (14FEB04) contacted me about my NZ photo in HNL. He said that it was a diversion. It was supposed to fly from AKL-NAN-LAX, but instead diverted to HNL for more fuel. The reason was because of strong tailwinds in NAN, which caused weight restrictions for takeoff, so it came to HNL to pump up again.

Glad I caught her!

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RE: HNL Rarities ...

Sun Mar 14, 2004 6:50 pm

Lot's of great posts. Yes, the weather did ... suck. Hope you guys get your shots tomorrow. Will have to wait until Monday @ the earliest to go out.
 
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RE: HNL Rarities ...

Mon Mar 15, 2004 2:38 am

Just took a look from my lanai ... there is a Volga-Dnepr An-124 on the NR. According to FC, the flight originated in Bay St. Louis, MS, stopped @ IAH, then onto here. It arrived @ 0215.
Another "Ruslan" photo op today.  Smile
 
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RE: HNL Rarities ...

Mon Mar 15, 2004 2:56 am

Great topic.......................
 
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RE: HNL Rarities ...

Mon Mar 15, 2004 4:03 am

Shanghai will be taking the last 5 757's built later this year, so hopefully those will transit thru HNL
 
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Mon Mar 15, 2004 4:08 am

Longest lasting topic ever?
 
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Mon Mar 15, 2004 4:56 am

from http://www.luchtzak.be/article2523.html

1039 N74856 Continental 324 (dec 03)
1040 N57857 Continental 324 (jan 04)
1041 ATA Airlines 28A (feb 04)
1042 N75858 Continental 324 (march 04)
1043 N56859 Continental 324 (april 04) (final -300 series aircraft built)
1044 Shanghai Airlines 26D (may 04)
1045 Shanghai Airlines 26D (june 04)
1046 Shanghai Airlines 26D (july 04)
1047 Xiamen Airlines 25C (aug 04)
1048 Xiamen Airlines 25C (sep 04)
1049 Shanghai Airlines 26D (oct 04)
1050 Shanghai Airlines 26D final aircraft, to be ceremonially delivered 03 November 2004.


The only error I see is the 752 listed for ATA is actually for Air 2000, it is currently on the BFI flight line, along with N75858.

So, there should be 5 Shanghai and 2 Xiamen 757's coming thru HNL starting in May.
 
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Mon Mar 15, 2004 8:28 am

Hey Royal, thanks for the info!  Smile So sad to see the B757 production come to an end. Could you let us know the exact date of delivery when the time comes, because FC doesn't seem to display any FM or MF flights to HNL.
 
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Mon Mar 15, 2004 10:07 am

The China Southern 737 was gone by 1100. However, there is a 737-200 where the China Southern 737 used to be. It is all white with a blue(?) cheatline down the fuselage and 4 stripes in pairs horizontal across the tail.
 
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Mon Mar 15, 2004 12:47 pm

Hey guys! Speaking of interesting delivery flights, I remember seeing a Virgin Blue 738 land on Maui in July 2002. I was completely surprised and didnt have enough time to take a pic. Has Virgin Blue ever transited via HNL or did they always go via OGG?

Aloha!
 
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Mon Mar 15, 2004 2:16 pm

DJ stops by OGG for delivery and AirService Hawaii handles their delivery flights. I don't believe any DJ flight stopped by HNL.

Arrgghhh, I went out at 11:30 this morning (over slept). So the CZ was parked in front of AirService  Sad. I liked the spot where the Chinese delivery jets parked in front of the Island Air office. I guess AirService won them back.

Spotted some traffic landing on 04R. The Volga-Dnepr AN-124 is still there.

Yeah, saw the B732 you mentioned, except getting a photo from that spot is virtually impossible unless you have ramp access. Only got to see the lines on the tail, which was a baby-blue color.
 
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Mon Mar 15, 2004 3:26 pm

Arrgghhh, I went out at 11:30 this morning (over slept). So the CZ was parked in front of AirService . I liked the spot where the Chinese delivery jets parked in front of the Island Air office. I guess AirService won them back.

The 732 is parked in front of Air Service, the CZ 73G was parked at Island Air and left at 1000.

T prop.
 
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Mon Mar 15, 2004 5:07 pm

T prop, thanks for the info.  Smile So some Chinese jets still park at AirService (FM), but others park at Island Air's office.
 
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Mon Mar 15, 2004 5:55 pm

Whoa! Up to 697! Yikes! Did anyone get photos of the rare birds that were in town?

There is an Antonov Design Bureau An-124 in bound to HNL from LSE (LaCrosse, WI) via ONT. The ETA is 0423 HST. The flight # is ADB7011. The An-124 is almost becoming a regular @ HNL, though not frequent enough.

It's too bad that 5Y and PO always seem to park @ hardstand 5, where it's too far to get a shot from LD. Those 5Y 744Fs in the full Atlas colors are pretty sharp, as is the new Polar livery on their 744Fs.

Well, there is hope that there will be a rare bird or two tomorrow @ HNL when I go around 0830. I will post my morning findings after I get up.

Kona wind patterns would be nice too, if the winds shift to the west-northwest.  Big grin



Clickhappy,

Thanks for the 757 info. The China bound 757 delivery flights have stopped in HNL before, as well as the 767s. By the way, nice photos. Are you posting any on MA.net?
 
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Mon Mar 15, 2004 6:00 pm

Virgin Blue (DJ) delivery flight direct from Beoing, have come via HNL, although no pictures avaiable.

As already said QF's 737 delivery also come from Boeing via Seattle (see below). 767's and 747's although in times delivered via HNL have frequented with their regualar service at times.


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Mon Mar 15, 2004 6:06 pm

I just submitted my share of "older"/rare HNL aircraft photos to MyAviation.net. Yeah, the quality is real bad! Embarrassment But I'm just too lazy to rescan it!  Laugh out loud There is still more to come.

Hopefully they'll be posted up soon!  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

Even though the AN-124 is now sort of frequent to HNL, I still consider it special and rare. It's so unusual. I will never get tired of spotting/photographing those massive birds.

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