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RE: Shortest Routes A Major Flew With Mainline Jets

Sat Feb 21, 2004 11:35 pm

Back in the 80's US Air flew 737-200 on PIT to CAK, also BWI to PHL is a pretty short flight.
 
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RE: Shortest Routes A Major Flew With Mainline Jets

Sun Feb 22, 2004 4:17 am

Hi to N276AASTT:

Our current debate does talk about "mainline jets", not BN Islanders, agreed?

As for the BN Islanders, I do know that Aer Arann fly from their regional base in Connemara to the Aran islands off the coast of Galway (Ireland), and the scheduled flight time is 8 minutes.

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RE: Shortest Routes A Major Flew With Mainline Jets

Sun Feb 22, 2004 4:25 am

Irish MD-11

After I started this topic, I remembered about the flight I heard so I figured I would throw it in to see if anyone had heard of the flight. Adios
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RE: Shortest Routes A Major Flew With Mainline Jets

Sun Feb 22, 2004 5:00 am

JNB-DUR SA 747 SP, fully loaded, actual flight time was about 45 min with a hot breakfast!

DUS-FRA LH A340.
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RE: Shortest Routes A Major Flew With Mainline Jets

Sun Feb 22, 2004 5:45 am

IN the late 70's & early 80"s Western Airlines had a 737 doing
IDA-PIH air miles 46
 
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RE: Shortest Routes A Major Flew With Mainline Jets

Sun Feb 22, 2004 5:48 am

Braniff used to fly DCA-IAD-DFW.
For argument' sake a DC-9 would be considered a mainline aircraft and Ozark as well as North Central, Southern, Allegheny et al...had some rather short hops. I frequently flew PIA-CMI-IAD in the 70's and the Peoria-Champain/Urbana sector was often 10 minutes, you could see individual cows in the fields because the DC-9 never got above 10,000 feet, often less (I asked a pilot once). Believe it or not alot of those Local Service pilots loved segments like that, they called it "real" flying!
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RE: Shortest Routes A Major Flew With Mainline Jet

Sun Feb 22, 2004 6:00 am

On the UA SFO-OAK flights a long time ago. It probably had to do with maintenance at Oakland and positioning in SFO. The funny thing was, they listed them in the timetable as San Francisco to San Francisco with the sub-codes for individual airports. SFO, OAK or SJC.
 
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RE: Shortest Routes A Major Flew With Mainline Jets

Sun Feb 22, 2004 9:55 am

SBN - MDW by Chicago Express thats really short like 7 mins touch down to take of Don't forget CLT-MYR USair airways A320's and B735's
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RE: Shortest Routes A Major Flew With Mainline Jets

Sun Feb 22, 2004 10:17 am

The three bay area airports had lots of planes hopping between them in the mid to late 70's:

UA/TW/RW: SFO-OAK, usually a continuation of a Chicago or Denver flight, with DC8's, 707's, and 727's - sometimes UA would run a 737 over as well from SFO for their services to PDX or SEA out of Oakland. RW ran F27's and DC9's, usually the tail end of a flight down from Oregon or PHX/LAS. DL ran a DC8-50 as an extension of either DFW or ATL, via SFO, into OAK in the final days of their original service to Oakland (they were absent for many years, and then returned in the mid to late 80's, and got bigger at OAK with the WA merger).

WA ran hops from OAK to SJC and back, as part of their Honolulu service with 720B's. Air California and PSA also hopped back and forth, usually as extensions of flights from ONT, SNA or LGB. With the exeception of the DL flight, I think you were able to book the local segments.

Remember also the UA Central Valley services with 737-200's, they would hop from places like Stockton to Modesto, to Merced, Visalia, Bakersfield, all well under 100 miles, many less than 50. They referred to this service as the Valley Queen.
 
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RE: Shortest Routes A Major Flew With Mainline Jets

Sun Feb 22, 2004 1:51 pm

I'll cheat a bit since you didn't specify scheduled service. I rode a FedEx 727-200 from TUS-DMA, about 3 miles, once.

But, on the serious side, I rode on UA DC-10s, DC-8s and 727s between OAK and SFO quite a few times and I'll cast my vote for that being the shortest per the original question.
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RE: Shortest Routes A Major Flew With Mainline Jets

Sun Feb 22, 2004 2:22 pm

Early April 1976 during the height of be-centennial fever, there was DL flight 237 a Boeing 727 which flew from BOS-BWI-FLL-MIA. It was a Boeing 727-200 with the early 70's renovated passenger cabin. This flight was a byproduct of Delta's absortion of Northeast. I flew from BWI to MIA. The flight was half full from BOS. All but 7 of us deplaned in FLL! We 7 flew the less than 10 minute hop from FLL to MIA. (This was before Miami Beach had their renaissance with South Beach). By the way, this Delta flight was filled to capacity. And, we experienced some big time turbulence where the flight attendants had to suspend the dinnertime meal service. This was back in the days of airline food even on short flights such as this one.  Smile


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RE: Shortest Routes A Major Flew With Mainline Jets

Mon Feb 23, 2004 10:56 am

Delta flight 1705, which flew from SAT-AUS using a 733, was cancelled just a few weeks ago. I've been on the flight; was a really cool experience.

Delta's flight between MIA-FLL used an L-1011 at one time.

I think they at one time also flew OAK-SFO.
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RE: Shortest Routes A Major Flew With Mainline Jet

Mon Feb 23, 2004 11:08 am

DL...SHV- MLU 727 flight time 15min
 
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RE: Shortest Routes A Major Flew With Mainline Jet

Mon Feb 23, 2004 11:25 am

British Caledonian (BCAL) used a 747-200s on their SAN-LAX-LGW run!..that had to be fun 10-15 minute run!

British Airways later took it over and replaced it with the DC-10!

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Shortest Routes A Major Flew With Mainline Jet

Mon Feb 23, 2004 9:41 pm

KL's early morning AMS-LHR is served with 763 (25-30 mins)
Also AMS-BRU (20 mins) is sometimes operated with 737, otherwise Fokker70 or
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RE: Shortest Routes A Major Flew With Mainline Jets

Mon Feb 23, 2004 9:46 pm

Dub-SNN 20mins flown by air canada,delta,continental and aerlingus with 777's,a330's,763's,757's etc etc the greatest waste of money just to keep one airport alive because it cant support itself.
 
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RE: Shortest Routes A Major Flew With Mainline Jets

Tue Feb 24, 2004 4:07 am

Elmira-Ithaca, USAirways, grand total of 32 miles.
St. Thomas-St. Croix, grand total of 45 miles
Detroit-Flint, total of 56
St. Thomas-San Juan, 68
Detroit-Lansing, 74

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RE: Shortest Routes A Major Flew With Mainline Jets

Tue Feb 24, 2004 11:49 am

In the mid 1960's AA had a route that was DTW-BUF-ROC-SYR-ALB-BOS which was operated with a 727. I think at one time they also operated BOS-PVD. EA flew MIA-FLL with an A300.
 
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RE: Shortest Routes A Major Flew With Mainline Jets

Wed Feb 25, 2004 10:50 am

Working for good o'l EAL in the 70s there were lots of flights MIA-FLL with everything up to L1011 (That has to be my shortest widebody flight).
Several times took a flight one way or the other to get out of MIA on to something with seats (like Cruise Saturday to ATL) or to NYC.
NW had 720Bs on the route back in the 60's..never more than 11min shortest was 8 min at 300a on EA 727-200 from ATL.
 
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RE: Shortest Routes A Major Flew With Mainline Jet

Wed Feb 25, 2004 7:45 pm

Copied from an email I received....

Since I am not a member I cannot post anything on the forum regarding the
shortest flight, but thought you might be interested in this tidbit (or want to
post it). In the OAG, UA showed a scheduled flight from SFO to OAK in a 747
which took about 40 minutes block to block. SFO airways (S61 helicopter) was
scheduled on the same route for 16 minutes block to block. From SFO you can
see OAK and visa versa. This may be the first time a helicopter ever beat a
747!

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RE: Shortest Routes A Major Flew With Mainline Jets

Wed Feb 25, 2004 8:55 pm

I remember flying from Kuala Lumpur SZB to Langkawi LGK on an A330. The flight was 50 minutes.

Does anyone know when was 747 used between KUL & SIN? Was it a regular thing or just for peak times such as Chinese New Year?
 
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RE: SFO-OAK 747

Thu Feb 26, 2004 7:06 am

"In the OAG, UA showed a scheduled flight from SFO to OAK in a 747
which took about 40 minutes block to block."

When?
 
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RE: Shortest Routes A Major Flew With Mainline Jets

Thu Feb 26, 2004 1:40 pm

Re: UA's SFO-OAK...Peter Jennings did a segment on this flight a long time ago. The segment stated (knowing the news media, accuracy is questionable  Insane) that the time between gear up after takeoff at SFO to gear down for landing at OAK was a mere 39 seconds.

I've flown SFO-SMF on a UA 727, and HNL-LIH on a DC-10. UA also operated a DC-8 (and I think a DC-10 at one point) for flight 33...PDX-SEA-HNL. PDX-SEA is 129 nautical miles. Going WAY back...didn't UA operate a mainline between Salem, OR (SLE) and PDX?

I do believe SFO-OAK is the winner, though.
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RE: Shortest Routes A Major Flew With Mainline Jet

Thu Feb 26, 2004 2:17 pm

SFO - OAK and JFK - EWR in 747s is absolutely crazy!!
OVER 150 FLIGHTS PER YEAR.
 
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RE: Shortest Routes A Major Flew With Mainline Jets

Thu Feb 26, 2004 2:22 pm

I've done MKE-MSN in an Midwest MD-80...about 13 mins in the air i believe...my brother left our house (about 3mi from airport) to pick me up before we were wheels up!
 
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RE: Shortest Routes A Major Flew With Mainline Jets

Fri Feb 27, 2004 1:10 am

UA did fly mainline SLE to PDX. The flight time was about 20 minutes
 
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RE: Shortest Route Mainline Jets

Fri Feb 27, 2004 2:56 am

"SFO - OAK and JFK - EWR in 747s is absolutely crazy!!"

Unlikely, yes. We're still waiting for any citation that anyone ever scheduled 747s carrying passengers from SFO to OAK or JFK to EWR. Suspect we're not going to get it.
 
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RE: Shortest Routes A Major Flew With Mainline Jets

Fri Feb 27, 2004 3:21 am

Before AA got their MD-11's for their SJC-AA), Japan">NRT run (and SJC extended 30L), if the winds were bad or they were too heavy, they would fly SJC-OAK-AA), Japan">NRT to top off the tanks and use a longer runway. I did it once. What a strange sensation to go SJC-OAK.
 
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RE: Shortest Routes A Major Flew With Mainline Jets

Fri Feb 27, 2004 3:47 am

I have flown (a while back!) on a CO MD-80 between SFO-SJC and also on a UA 757/727/737 between SFO and MRY.
 
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RE: Shortest Routes A Major Flew With Mainline Jets

Fri Feb 27, 2004 4:08 am

I flew AA OKC-TUL 707/720 before deregulation.
 
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RE: Shortest Routes A Major Flew With Mainline Jets

Fri Feb 27, 2004 9:46 am

Back around 1986 or 1987, for positioning, TWA used to run BUR to LAX. My travel agent didn't believe me at the time, but sure enough when he looked it up it was true. You could go BUR to STL with a stop at LAX. If I remember right they used 722's or D9's.
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RE: Shortest Routes A Major Flew With Mainline Jets

Fri Feb 27, 2004 10:52 am

AS used to fly SEA-BLI. It is 93mi and they used M80's on this route. The timetable said 40 min, I doubt that. Most likely circle time
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