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dtwclipper
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Deathbed On Singapore Airlines

Thu Mar 11, 2004 10:44 pm

This is a new one, I have never heard of anything like this before!


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keesje
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RE: Deathbed On Singapore Airlines

Thu Mar 11, 2004 10:49 pm

Necessary on very long flights.

A body bag in the galley for many hours is undesirable...

 
BWIA 772
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RE: Deathbed On Singapore Airlines

Thu Mar 11, 2004 10:54 pm

Wow isnt that nice!!
 
Greg
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RE: Deathbed On Singapore Airlines

Thu Mar 11, 2004 11:04 pm

It's the DVT lounge.
 
keno
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RE: Deathbed On Singapore Airlines

Thu Mar 11, 2004 11:08 pm

That is trully a 180-degree flatbed.
 
mas a330
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RE: Deathbed On Singapore Airlines

Thu Mar 11, 2004 11:10 pm

How much would a ticket on that cost  Laugh out loud
 
[email protected]
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RE: Deathbed On Singapore Airlines

Thu Mar 11, 2004 11:23 pm

Damn i'd die for a seat like that on a plane!
 
saslover
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RE: Deathbed On Singapore Airlines

Fri Mar 12, 2004 12:15 am

WOW you can get your own bed on very long flight's now, that's cool "LOL"
 
scf158
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RE: Deathbed On Singapore Airlines

Fri Mar 12, 2004 12:21 am

Well thats just a bit toooo wierd!
 
ltbewr
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RE: Deathbed On Singapore Airlines

Fri Mar 12, 2004 12:23 am

There was another thread on this 'bed' in the last few days, and there are a number of good and bad comments on it. I asked there a number of questions that were not apparently answered.
 
fritzi
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RE: Deathbed On Singapore Airlines

Fri Mar 12, 2004 12:25 am

MAS A330,

How much would a ticket on that cost

Same as a economy ticket. All you have to do is swallow a cyanide pill and then that place will be yours for the rest of the flight!  Laugh out loud

Does it have a PTV?  Big grin
 
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RE: Deathbed On Singapore Airlines

Fri Mar 12, 2004 12:29 am

Im sure that would be a long quite nice flight laying there. But I wonder how they serve the meals in there... One thing is for sure, Its probably served chilly....  Laugh out loudD
I konw this is a bad joke. But I couldn't help my self
 
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RE: Deathbed On Singapore Airlines

Fri Mar 12, 2004 12:32 am

Hehe, that a Crew Rest?
Have heared that cruise ships have coffins on board - but a plane? Or maybe SQ has bad on board food? lol
 
dtwclipper
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RE: Deathbed On Singapore Airlines

Fri Mar 12, 2004 12:36 am

LTBEWR,

Sorry, I didn't know this had been talked about already.

dtwclipper
 
lyzzard
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RE: Deathbed On Singapore Airlines

Fri Mar 12, 2004 12:39 am

The compartment is mostly used for storage of personal effects. I doubt it would ever be used for keeping corpses. It is a pretty tight squeeze, a fatty would have trouble fitting in there.
 
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RE: Deathbed On Singapore Airlines

Fri Mar 12, 2004 12:53 am

It's the KrisMorgue!  Smile

Fascinating. They really thought of everything, didn't they?
 
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RE: Deathbed On Singapore Airlines

Fri Mar 12, 2004 1:51 am

HMMMMMMMM, ok

The caption for the pic says "Although rare, inflight deaths have occured periodically with several airlines."

My question is how many times has that happened aboard Singapore Airlines flights to have them include this as a feature for their A340-500's???
 
SInGAPORE_AIR
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RE: Deathbed On Singapore Airlines

Fri Mar 12, 2004 2:01 am

Well that's one feature that they haven't told prospective passengers about!

How fascinating. What a way to go! On a Singapore Airlines flight.  Big thumbs up

FoxBravo: KrisMorgue sounds like a great name  Laugh out loud
 
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RE: Deathbed On Singapore Airlines

Fri Mar 12, 2004 3:17 am

ok, lets be realistic here for a second. If there was an inflight emergency due to a medical condition which resulted in someones death and the flight was 3 to 4 hours away from landing at the nearest airport, what else are you going to do with the corpse? Does the plane continue to its destination or does it divert? I mean, they have a cold place to keep the body. Any thoughtts?

steve
 
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RE: Deathbed On Singapore Airlines

Fri Mar 12, 2004 3:27 am

The A345 is flying between LAX and SIN. You're in the middle of the Pacific. Where are you going to diver to? If you're lucky you're just a few hours from Hawaii. Most importantly, what for? The passenger is already dead, diverting the plane will not bring the passenger back to life. Also, you can't just leave a dead body in it's seat. I'm guessing it would disturb the other passengers.
 
Spike
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RE: Deathbed On Singapore Airlines

Fri Mar 12, 2004 3:32 am

You wouldn't believe how many corpses are just left in seats with a blanket on their knees. Think of that guy 'asleep' as everyone walks out. Even had a client that did it.
 
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RE: Deathbed On Singapore Airlines

Fri Mar 12, 2004 3:34 am

[email protected]! That was truely a good one!  Big thumbs up

 Smile/happy/getting dizzy PA
 
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RE: Deathbed On Singapore Airlines

Fri Mar 12, 2004 3:38 am

Instead of the catchy song "Singapore Girl you're a great way to fly"--it should be "SINGAPORE GIRL YOU'RE A GREAT WAY TO DIE"!!!!!!!!

 
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RE: Deathbed On Singapore Airlines

Fri Mar 12, 2004 4:15 am

It has not even a funeral look, surely because of the belts. But SQ knows of course by experience that it may be a must to be that attentive to detail, otherwise they would not have arranged this mortician cold room. I find this a mark of respect for the dead and the other passengers, and a sign of ability of taking into account some sad but possible realities.

I guess this arrangement is only on long haul planes. Do not tell in which part of the plane this arrangement is available. I prefer to be kept in ignorance of it for my next flights with SQ.

Cheers. Kilavoud.
 
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RE: Deathbed On Singapore Airlines

Fri Mar 12, 2004 4:19 am

What a great idea - is there a similar feature on other LR planes like 777ER/LR or 747ER or 340-600?
 
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RE: Deathbed On Singapore Airlines

Fri Mar 12, 2004 4:38 am

I think it could be a feature available as an option by Airbus during purchase?  Big grin
 
mjszanto
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RE: Deathbed On Singapore Airlines

Fri Mar 12, 2004 6:05 am

That's awefully disturbing. You'd think a plane would just land ASAP!
 
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RE: Deathbed On Singapore Airlines

Fri Mar 12, 2004 6:15 am

But surely somebody would have to pronounce the person dead before they can be put in there.
What if there's no doctor on board? Is the corpse left in the seat?

David
 
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RE: Deathbed On Singapore Airlines

Fri Mar 12, 2004 6:25 am


Hopefully the In-Flight Catering people dont get it mixed up either!!!!!!!!!
 
mjszanto
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RE: Deathbed On Singapore Airlines

Fri Mar 12, 2004 6:32 am

There are just too many stories of people being mistaken for dead, that I think it is a really bad idea. I think it should just be treated as an emergency.
 
Greg
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RE: Deathbed On Singapore Airlines

Fri Mar 12, 2004 7:12 am

Can it be use for children?
Live ones.
 
Paddy
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RE: Deathbed On Singapore Airlines

Fri Mar 12, 2004 7:25 am

Interesting. Anybody ever actually been on a flight where a passenger was DOA?
 
Theiler
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RE: Deathbed On Singapore Airlines

Fri Mar 12, 2004 7:29 am

...Or even their parents who haven't taught little Jr. how to behave?!
 
747400F
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RE: Deathbed On Singapore Airlines

Fri Mar 12, 2004 7:33 am

That's awfully disturbing. You'd think a plane would just land ASAP!
Why? What good would that do anyone?

Imagine flying from LAX to SIN your husband dies - so the plane lands in HNL. Then what - you're stuck in the pacific with a corpse!

It's not a pleasant situation whichever way you look at it - but better the lies in a box than sitting in a chair next to other pax - or laying in the Galley or locked in the John!

This box/drawer looks like a very clean and respectful solution to a problem that hopefully doesn't happen all that often.
 
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RE: Deathbed On Singapore Airlines

Fri Mar 12, 2004 8:01 am

Couldn't help but wonder,

Wouldn't it be more likely that this contraption is used in the event of the airline being contracted to repatriate the remains of someone who dies overseas while on vacation/business/etc.??? This happens from time to time. In that case, this is a very professional and sanitary storage space for a body on a long haul flight like this.

Aerialpingpong.
 
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RE: Deathbed On Singapore Airlines

Fri Mar 12, 2004 8:06 am

Who the hell is going to touch the dead guy to get him up in that thing. My god those FAs have a hard job! If it was a family member or friend of mine and he was dyeing or did die I would MAKE to plane land right away no matter what it took. I would want a Doctor to check him and try to save him. I would attack the FA's or do whatever it took to get the plane down!!!
 
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RE: Deathbed On Singapore Airlines

Fri Mar 12, 2004 8:08 am

I somehow doubt it.

Remains being repatriated would be in a coffin, not on the KrisMorgue.

I think it's a good idea to have this - people die on aircraft more often than you'd think from what I've heard from Flight Attendants.

Though, I wouldn't have an issue with sitting next to someone who had passed away in flight, many would...

Trent.
 
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RE: Deathbed On Singapore Airlines

Fri Mar 12, 2004 8:15 am

Wouldn't it be more likely that this contraption is used in the event of the airline being contracted to repatriate the remains of someone who dies overseas

In such cases the body flies in the hold.


Re: Various comments about what to do in the event of a medical emergency.

If there is a medical emergency and the passenger is in dire need of medical attention that cannot be provided on board, then the procedure is to divert asap.

If the passenger is already dead, the captain may still choose to divert and offload the body, or elect to continue to final destination.
 
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RE: Deathbed On Singapore Airlines

Fri Mar 12, 2004 8:31 am

It's a huge waste of time and money to divert a dead passengers body. I mean they're dead - they can't complain about the IFE or service or anything, and they sure won't be the roudy type that has to be subdued. The best idea is to pretend they are alive but asleep (recline the seat) and no one will be the wiser.
 
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RE: Deathbed On Singapore Airlines

Fri Mar 12, 2004 8:38 am

And remember its an A340-500, there aren't a lot of places to divert between LA and Singapare to offload a body. Well obviously there are, but it would be a huge inconvenience for all involved to retrieve a loved one from some isolated pacific island!
 
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RE: Deathbed On Singapore Airlines

Fri Mar 12, 2004 9:02 am

Where on the plane is this located?
 
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RE: Deathbed On Singapore Airlines

Fri Mar 12, 2004 9:10 am

this is a very unpleasant subject, but on average how often do people die mid flight in a year.
 
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RE: Deathbed On Singapore Airlines

Fri Mar 12, 2004 10:16 am

How do you get the body to the area. Im just imagining two FA's dragging it down the aisle "Airplane" style with the pilots.
 
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RE: Deathbed On Singapore Airlines

Fri Mar 12, 2004 11:31 am

LONDON -- A 19-year-old British woman died Monday on board a Virgin Atlantic flight from Miami to London's Heathrow Airport, the airline said. A day earlier, two passengers on a British Airways flight from Miami to Heathrow died, including one from suspected viral meningitis.

As I said, it happens more than you'd think...
 
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RE: Deathbed On Singapore Airlines

Fri Mar 12, 2004 11:59 am

As I said, it happens more than you'd think...

well i'll remeber to get an aisle seat in the future
 
norjet
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RE: Deathbed On Singapore Airlines

Fri Mar 12, 2004 1:00 pm

The SIN-LAX flight path is actually quite close to the coastlines all the way, the troublesome stretch is from Sakhalin up to the Aleutians. Prior to that, you could divert to almost any major city. After that, you've got ANC, YVR, SEA and so on.

Could the 345 land at JNU / KTN / YPR? or are there suitable military fields along that stretch?

Regards,
Scott
 
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RE: Deathbed On Singapore Airlines

Fri Mar 12, 2004 1:03 pm

Maybe it's a place to put pax after they die of fear from flying on a Scarebus? lol jk  Big grin

Interesing setup though...extra meat storage perhaps?

DeltaGuy
 
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RE: Deathbed On Singapore Airlines

Fri Mar 12, 2004 1:41 pm

I was told by a FA friend of mine that if someone is dying onboard, you must not stop trying to revive the body until the aircraft has landed and a doctor has boarded to pronounce the body dead.

This is or was the procedure at Emirates anyway. I'm not sure if its an international law or company policy. If this is the case with SQ as well, then this storage container seems pointless.

EmiratesA345 Smile/happy/getting dizzy
 
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RE: Deathbed On Singapore Airlines

Fri Mar 12, 2004 3:51 pm

people dying on planes happens all the time....

A friend of mine was on a Delta flight in the window seat and the elderly man next to her 'overslept' during the announcements for landing... the F/A came around and tried to wake him up, but it was no use, he'd passed on.... they were unable to find a doctor, and my friend was unable to move seats, as the 757 was completely full... so they threw a blanket over him and put his seat upright, and my friend still has nightmares of the 30 odd minutes she had to wait until they had landed and offloaded the man's body.... ever since, she NEVER gets a window seat on flights....
 
Spike
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RE: Deathbed On Singapore Airlines

Fri Mar 12, 2004 4:07 pm

A Google search shows that there are 72-100 deaths per year on-board commercial airlines in the US alone.

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