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je89_w
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RE: HNL Rare Birds ...

Fri Apr 23, 2004 12:52 pm

Ah, so that was what "Alpine 1" was while listening to the ATC. I completly forgot about it.
 
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RE: HNL Rare Birds ...

Sat Apr 24, 2004 6:12 am

Haven't seen the Alpines take to the air. If they do have the USPS contract, that may mean that TransAir ("Maui") may have lost their contract, or this is supplementing TransAir's service.

The King Airs has a slightly different livery than the 1900Cs, and have a belly pack attached. The 1900Cs look like they have been converted to haul freight. Both types have their windows blanked out.

Will make an effort to go out on Sunday.
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RE: HNL Rare Birds ...

Sat Apr 24, 2004 9:13 am

Haven't seen the Alpines take to the air. If they do have the USPS contract, that may mean that TransAir ("Maui") may have lost their contract, or this is supplementing TransAir's service.

With 6 aircraft there and possibly 4 more on the way, I think they have the whole contract.

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RE: HNL Rare Birds ...

Sat Apr 24, 2004 11:16 am

Hey

I got two shots of the two N7 birds that came through on the 22nd. They parked at the stands and are now gone. One came in around 3pm and it followed UA43 in the pattern. I'll try to find some space to host the picture to link.

Anyone know where they were going?
 
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RE: HNL Rare Birds ...

Sat Apr 24, 2004 3:45 pm

N7's? The now-defunct National Airlines that was based @ LAS, right? Were the tail logo, and titles painted over? Missed those birds.

Try uploading them to http://myaviation.net
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RE: HNL Rare Birds ...

Sat Apr 24, 2004 4:47 pm

N7 birds in HNL? Wonder where they were headed to . . . probably somewhere to Asia for its new owner?
 
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Sat Apr 24, 2004 5:09 pm

BTW, someone told me that after 20:00, KOA becomes an uncontrolled airfield. You can dim/brighten the airport lights from the cockpit (up to the pilots) after 20:00!

True, even hard to believe, something I never knew at all!
 
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RE: HNL Rare Birds ...

Sun Apr 25, 2004 11:47 am

about N7,
sorry i couldn't get the reg #, but they were in full colors an I know which UA flight they arrived after (since i'm always on that flight Smile ). I would think they were headed to Asia. I always wanted to work for National, but they went under before I graduated. Kinda fortunate to at least see them for the last time.

I'll load up to myaviation.net tomorrow, I'm headed back on UA44 tonite  Sad. HNL is too much fun.
 
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RE: HNL Rare Birds ...

Sun Apr 25, 2004 2:21 pm

Spotted an ex SQ A310 parked at the North Ramp remote stands today, hopefully will leave tomorrow morning.
 
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RE: HNL Rare Birds ...

Sun Apr 25, 2004 3:24 pm

BTW, someone told me that after 20:00, KOA becomes an uncontrolled airfield. You can dim/brighten the airport lights from the cockpit (up to the pilots) after 20:00!

Yep, you're right. Actually, it becomes an uncontrolled airfield after 2100. I live right above the airport and noticed that UA pilots like the lights all the way on while AA pilots keep them very dim - almost off. Why? Who knows! It's just great to watch!
 
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RE: HNL Rare Birds ...

Sun Apr 25, 2004 3:50 pm

What other airline flies into KOA after 21:00? When does it become a controlled airfield again?
 
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RE: HNL Rare Birds ...

Sun Apr 25, 2004 3:54 pm

As far as passenger aircraft, only UA and AA serve KOA after 21:00. There are cargo flights throughout the night (AQ, FedEx and UPS.) It becomes a controlled airfield at 6:00.
 
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RE: HNL Rare Birds ...

Sun Apr 25, 2004 4:09 pm

Thanks for the info. Welcome to Airliners.net, and someone from KOA for a change!
 
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RE: HNL Rare Birds ...

Sun Apr 25, 2004 4:28 pm

Saw the ex-SQ A310 too. Tried to look for the reg #, but couldn't get a good read. It is a US reg, it looked like N233RA.

Got a shot of an Alpine Air (5A) Beech 1900C, N197GA @ Eveland Aero. Looks like the ones @ B/A were moved.


Just found this on FC ... Anyone see it this morning. I did not check from my lanai, sorry.

Airline Volga-Dnepr
Flight Number 4757
Departure City (Airport) Fairbanks, AK (FAI)
Departure Time 04/23/2004 11:37 PM
Arrival City (Airport) Honolulu, HI (HNL)
Arrival Time 04/24/2004 04:50 AM
Remaining Flight Time 00:00
Aircraft Type A124
Current Altitude 0 feet
Current Groundspeed 0 mph
Flight Status Arrived

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RE: HNL Rare Birds ...

Mon Apr 26, 2004 6:51 am

Went out today, missed the SQ A310, and saw the same old stuff otherwise. Managed to get some shots of the Alpine Air jets.
 
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RE: HNL Rare Birds ...

Mon Apr 26, 2004 10:13 am

Went out around noon, about 1240, the winds shifted. Got a few shots of some 22L departures and a JL 744 and an X9 DC-10-30 on RT.
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RE: HNL Rare Birds ...

Mon Apr 26, 2004 1:16 pm

Heh, noticed the wind change after I got back from the airport, and was just too wasted to go back. Big grin

I'm trying to get a location to get the AQ/HA aircraft turn (where you actually get the other wingtip), kind of hard with a 300mm lens. There is a location like that, but this building blocks the dramatic turn part, which defeats the whole purpose.
 
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Mon Apr 26, 2004 2:26 pm

Thanks to TTT (http://www.ninervictor.com), I have the info regarding the SQ A310. He caught it taking off from SIN. The registration is N232BA.

www.jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php?id=270640
 
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Mon Apr 26, 2004 2:47 pm

Yeap, shot that A310 in SIN which was departing to Saipan, presumably to some US desert. N232BA is linked to Boeing so I presume she's one of those that will be sold by Boeing. Anybody knows her construction number or MSN? Trying to figure out which ex-SQ 310 she is.

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RE: HNL Rare Birds ...

Mon Apr 26, 2004 4:42 pm

Thanks for posting the correct reg # for the ex-SQ A310.

Looks like the winds have turned back to easterlies again.
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RE: HNL Rare Birds ...

Tue Apr 27, 2004 8:24 am

FC had Royal Tongan Airlines listed last night.?. Maybe it was their last international flight before the suspension.

Went out today, nothing special.

By the way, around 0800 to 0900, there were a couple of heavies departing 8L, because there was a heavy doing engine run-ups on 8R. There was an HA flight (a 763), #10 to LAX, and a UA flight (a772), #833 to KIX, that took off from 8L. Unfortunately the view was not that clear, since it was raining in the part of town.

Will be uploading a bunch of new stuff on MA.net soon.

[Edited 2004-04-27 01:28:11]
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RE: HNL Rare Birds ...

Tue Apr 27, 2004 1:57 pm

There was no Royal Tongan last night. Their international flights have all been canceled.

If you want to catch Alpine Air in action, head out to the CAT between 2300 and 0500. Planes are going in and out non-stop. Its too bad we won't be seeing Corp Air or Trans Air's Shorts flying around anymore, now that they lost the Postal contract.

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RE: HNL Rare Birds ...

Tue Apr 27, 2004 2:08 pm

 Big grin I'm glad this topic finally made it back to the top!


I'm not in HNL so can't contribute much but thak you guys for keeping this thread open for those of us who can't be there to catch the action in HNL, but wish we could!

 
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RE: HNL Rare Birds ...

Tue Apr 27, 2004 2:44 pm

Corporate Air still has their FDX contract, so there Cessna Caravans will still be around. Will they keep some of their Shorts 360s around? Or will they go back to the mainland?

What will happen to Trans Air? Do they have any other clients besides the USPS?

Did anyone ever manage to snap a pic of a Royal Tongan 752 @ HNL? Can't imagine the shot would be that great since HNL has those mercury vapor lamps, and turns everything orange. Hopefully they will return back here.

Polynesian Airlines used to fly here early in the morning, but switched to night flights. I have seen their 738s departing 8L while out doing some spotting in the morning a few years ago. I think Je89_w has a pic of it, when they had morning departures.
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RE: HNL Rare Birds ...

Tue Apr 27, 2004 4:03 pm

If you want to catch Alpine Air in action, head out to the CAT between 2300 and 0500. Planes are going in and out non-stop. Its too bad we won't be seeing Corp Air or Trans Air's Shorts flying around anymore, now that they lost the Postal contract.

Alpine so far has 11 different airplanes that I have seen, five 1900's and six 99's. It appears that they are renting the old HATS hangar, they have their aircraft there now during the day. They set up and started operating here quick.


Did anyone else besides Trans Air and Corporate do mail runs interisland?


T prop.
 
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RE: HNL Rare Birds ...

Tue Apr 27, 2004 4:20 pm

I don't know if you want to include the Fedex feeder Cessna Caravans, which do mail runs too.

WR came in at night, which was impossible for me to get. As for the Polynesian, never had the chance to get it either. Someone else has the shot of it from HNL.

What time do the CO B738s leave HNL in the morning? Saw it one summer in 2002 and 2003 when I arrived from NRT, and missed it twice (it was in the daytime hours).

[Edited 2004-04-27 09:21:29]
 
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RE: HNL Rare Birds ...

Tue Apr 27, 2004 5:04 pm

HA and AQ still carry mail interisland. As for the CO 738, it leaves at 0700 Mon, Wed, Sat.
 
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RE: HNL Rare Birds ...

Tue Apr 27, 2004 5:07 pm

Ah, thanks for the info, I have to try get an opportunity to catch it! Big grin
 
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RE: HNL Rare Birds ...

Tue Apr 27, 2004 7:18 pm

The Continental Micronesia (CS/CMI) 738s arrive @ HNL as CMI956, and depart as CMI957.

The eHawaii/DoT/HNL site should have the times posted.
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RE: HNL Rare Birds ...

Wed Apr 28, 2004 2:57 am

Although I'm not in HNL I've got real world weather in the flightsim, if it's alright I might share when there's kona winds there, as if there are, it should be the same in real life.

Was kona winds over the evening in HNL but at this moment it shows cloudy skies and tradewind traffic.

[Edited 2004-04-27 20:06:27]
 
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RE: HNL Rare Birds ...

Wed Apr 28, 2004 9:42 am

Started to upload pic I recently took.

A couple of PR flights arrived this morning that usually arrives during the night. one of them was an A340, and the other was a 744.

Could see an ATI (old colors) DC-8-60 sitting on the HIK ramp.
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RE: HNL Rare Birds ...

Wed Apr 28, 2004 10:21 am

In 1992 I remember seeing some old boxy Shorts/Davis Skyvans at HNL. They were worn out and had no engines. Must have been from some old inter-island carrier.

I also saw a Tupolev 95 Bear overfly Oahu north to south. He was at about 10,000 ASL.
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RE: HNL Rare Birds ...

Wed Apr 28, 2004 5:17 pm

I thought with these northerly winds we've had the last couple of days, the winds would (or could) have taken a northwesterly track, which would have put air traffic in Kona wind pattern. As luck would have it, the wind has been on a north-northeast track. Oh well ...


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RE: HNL Rare Birds ...

Wed Apr 28, 2004 5:20 pm

Get ready for a lot of JAL flights coming in the next week or so. With Golden Week starting up, many extra sections have been added. I would assume that ANA will also have extra sections.
 
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RE: HNL Rare Birds ...

Wed Apr 28, 2004 5:27 pm

Summer is approaching fast, and the days are getting longer. CI1 to TPE still leaves at the same time, which by now should be easier to catch since the sun would be higher. The sun would still be us when Polynesian Airlines B738 comes in at 19:10.

A North American 404 is coming in from ANC tomorrow at 06:05.
 
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RE: HNL Rare Birds ...

Wed Apr 28, 2004 5:36 pm

Also, World will be come rarer in HNL. The charter operator, TM Travel, will not have its public charter prospectus renewed by the DOT. Also, revenue has not met expectations.

http://www.bizjournals.com/pacific/stories/2004/04/26/daily28.html
 
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RE: HNL Rare Birds ...

Wed Apr 28, 2004 5:44 pm

Here is one of Alpine's Beech 1900Cs that will be transferring mail between islands....

MyAviation.net photo:

Photo © Ivan Nishimura



Note the slight variation in the liveries of the 1900s and the 99s.


With "Golden Week" a few days away, it may well be our last chance to get shots of NH's 742s, if they haven't retired the last two yet. Tomorrow & Friday may be my only days this week to go spotting. The weekend is out of the question.

[Edited 2004-04-28 10:50:55]
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RE: HNL Rare Birds ...

Thu Apr 29, 2004 9:12 am

A bunch of things today. A JAL MD-11, JA8586, a UA 747-400, and NW DC-10 in new livery, N226NW. Tomorrow will have 14 JAL flights coming into HNL.
 
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RE: HNL Rare Birds ...

Thu Apr 29, 2004 12:16 pm

Seen the JL MD-11 take off, I really wasn't paying attention, and assumed it was a 10, looking at the tail. Wanted to kick myself when I saw it was an 11, d'oh!

Did not see the UA 744. Ran into HNLFlyboy @ the GA lot, he said he saw it.

There was a Royal Australian Air Force (RAAF) C-137 take off before a USAF KC-10A. The 135 was painted glossy grey with dark grey markings. It was not a tanker.

There's a JL 742 at hardstand 3.

Is there a possibility of seeing more MD-11s, 742s (both JL & NH), NH's 744, and 772s?
Only time will tell ...
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RE: HNL Rare Birds ...

Thu Apr 29, 2004 3:42 pm

One of the new QANTAS Dash 8 300's arrived here today at about 1520 hours. It's parked in front of Bradley. Came in wearing Canadian registration
C-GZPP.

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RE: HNL Rare Birds ...

Thu Apr 29, 2004 6:16 pm

Did anyone get a shot of the QF Dash8? Or is anyone planning to?

Ooh! I hope it stays til Friday morning.
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RE: HNL Rare Birds ...

Fri Apr 30, 2004 8:20 am

JA8906 finally made it back into town after nearly 3 months of not seeing it. All it took was 14 JAL flights. Plus JA8586 again. The MD-11s are doing KIX trips.
 
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RE: HNL Rare Birds ...

Fri Apr 30, 2004 10:40 am

It's been Kona winds for the last couple of hours. Was going to go down, but something came up.

Will try tomorrow ...
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RE: HNL Rare Birds ...

Fri Apr 30, 2004 5:08 pm

JAL flights are heavy into HNL this week due to the Golden Week holiday which is either this week or next week...It's nice to see UA bringing in a 744 again...and from the West Coast no less....
 
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RE: HNL Rare Birds ...

Fri Apr 30, 2004 6:24 pm

NH may be bringing in their 747s too. There's NH1970 from CTS scheduled to arrive around 0730. The flight is not listed on FC, but on the eHawaii.gov site for HNL. Also listed is a JL flight, JL8078. Both flights listed have no scheduled departures so they may be spending some time on the NR.

Would like to go there on the early side, like 0900 to 0930. Kona's would be nice too.
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RE: HNL Rare Birds ...

Sat May 01, 2004 4:43 am

I can see an NH 747 at Gate 33, but can't tell if it's 200 or 400, because a CI 744 is blocking it. I think it may be a 200, since the UD is not stretched. I'm going down to check it out.  Smile
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RE: HNL Rare Birds ...

Sat May 01, 2004 6:52 am

FC indicates that ANA1970 was a 747-200.

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RE: HNL Rare Birds ...

Sat May 01, 2004 7:21 am

This is an inverse, but I once saw the now defunct Hawaiian carrier Mahalo Air parked at Lunken Field in Cincinnati for maintenance (our municipal/business mostly airfield). HNL rare-bird far from home  Big grin
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RE: HNL Rare Birds ...

Sat May 01, 2004 11:33 am

The NH 742 sitting on the NR is reg'd JA8174. Tried to get a shot , but was blocked by an AC 767 (C-FCAG). Don't know how long the NH 742 will be here. Winds switched to Kona's after I left around 1100, darn!

There was an AQ 73G operating an inter-island flight, AQ208 that departed on 8R, sorry, didn't get the reg #.

Hope you guys will be able to get some photo ops over the weekend. I won't have a chance, since I've got a conference to attend. Post your guys findings. I plan to go on Monday and maybe Tuesday morning.
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RE: HNL Rare Birds ...

Sat May 01, 2004 5:45 pm

I will try to make it out during the weekend, to try catch some of the extra JAL stuff, and hopefully a UA B744 and NH B747.

SQ452, for a while (2002) there was a Mahalo Air F-27 parked at the south ramp, then one day, the nose gear collapsed, so the plane ended up sitting in that position for a few months, before finally being removed.

Now I have to try get JA8906!
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