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A300 Turns 30: Fond Memories?

Thu Apr 01, 2004 10:49 pm

The success of the A330 finally seems to be stealing the limelight from Airbus' pioneering A300 as it completes its 3rd decade of service. Although I always found it had a "floaty" sensation, the A300 has to have had one of the most spacious cabins I've known. What are your thoughts on this ground-breaking aircraft?

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RE: A300 Turns 30: Fond Memories?

Thu Apr 01, 2004 10:58 pm

Have flown on examples from AA, LH, and MON - Have to say i like the aircraft very much, and much prefer it to the 767.

Seems a very powerful and impressive takeoff - and 600R series has a nice cabin - cant speak for the earlier ones, but i love it. The AA one was my first ever PTV experience - very nice indeed.  Smile

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RE: A300 Turns 30: Fond Memories?

Thu Apr 01, 2004 11:02 pm

This is one of my favourite airplane... "My" good old big A300 !
A simple, yet reliable and efficient aircraft. I always felt very safe onboard the very first Airbus's Baby !

Did you know that the original name for the A300 was the "Gallion" as a reference to the previous "Caravelle". Finally Airbus decided to adopt a more "modern" name and to use letters and numbers to name it. It would be "A" for Airbus and 300 for the initial average seat capacity it was designed for.


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The first ever Airbus A300 entered service with Air France on May 23rd 1974, on the CDG-LHR route.

 
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RE: A300 Turns 30: Fond Memories?

Thu Apr 01, 2004 11:22 pm

I've flown it several times, back when Premiair was still around. Nice, steady machine. Liked it a lot.
I remember on one special occasion, the captain invited all the kids to the flight deck (taking turns, of course). Well...I suddenly lost 15 years, and turned 4 again. Big grin

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RE: A300 Turns 30: Fond Memories?

Thu Apr 01, 2004 11:38 pm

I have been onboard of different A300-600 of LH for many times. Most of the flights were domestic flights between TXL, FRA, MUC and HAJ. But some flights withín Europe, e.g. to ATH.

I like that plane because it gives an impression of space in competition with "normal" planes. But I like it for practical reasons, too: Especially in wintertime there is more place for jackets and coats  Big grin
 
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RE: A300 Turns 30: Fond Memories?

Fri Apr 02, 2004 12:01 am

My first A300 flight was when I was 8 years old. It was on November 6th 1990. It was on Eastern Airlines flight from SEA-ATL. We were delayed because on pushback, I guess the plane knocked over a ground worker.
 
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RE: A300 Turns 30: Fond Memories?

Fri Apr 02, 2004 12:12 am

At last contributors to these boards have woken up to what a great, groundbreaking aircraft the A300 is in all its incarnations!

I am sick of reading threads eulogising DC10's, Tristars, DC9's and worst of all-the 767. Yuck!

The A300 is a great airliner, and I hope that it will be around for a long time yet.

 
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RE: A300 Turns 30: Fond Memories?

Fri Apr 02, 2004 12:51 am

I too am glad someone has started a thread remembering the A300. Not only did it put Airbus on the map, but it was the first twin widebody and was renowned for its quiet cabin and smoothness. A lot of them are still around, mostly freighters now, testifying to its toughness.
My own memories are flights on SAA, Thai and KLM Airbus 300/310s. Never a bad flight.
 
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RE: A300 Turns 30: Fond Memories?

Fri Apr 02, 2004 1:20 am

I flew on the first A-300´s LH had back in the end of the 70´s (?). It usually was a flight from FRA to HAM. I always (and still do) enjoy the quiet ride, the spacious cabin, the no flap take-offs, and the power this plane has. I sure hope it will be around for years to come.
 
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RE: A300 Turns 30: Fond Memories?

Fri Apr 02, 2004 1:44 am

My last A300-600R was in February, when I flew with Egyptair from JED to CAI. The aircaft offered a very comfortable ride (even though it's based on an old design). The cabin was spacious and well-maintained and landing was smooth (though that could be put done to the airline too).


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RE: A300 Turns 30: Fond Memories?

Fri Apr 02, 2004 1:52 am

I think that the A300 should be recognised as more than just a good aircraft (which is undoubtedly is). The aircraft has spawned what might well be considered the most important development in modern aviation: the twin aisle twin. The A310, 330, 767, 777 and 7E7 all owe something to Airbus's design.

Also, the cross section has easily passed the test of time; the 2-2-2 in First and 2-4-2 in Economy are both successful and comfortable and the cargo capacity is excellent. Some might consider the A300 "old hat", but I think it's contribution to aviation should be recognised.

I actually flew A300s pretty late in the day; my first was with Korean Air, from Busan to Seoul, in 1997 and then, Monarch in 2001 and JAS (A300B4) in 2003. I'd still like to fly in a B2 if I can - VASP perhaps.
 
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RE: A300 Turns 30: Fond Memories?

Fri Apr 02, 2004 2:22 am

As my username indicates..flew on EA many times all over the US and even into SJU.
They were(are) a great freight carrier and for a while EA had a contract to carry cargo over night from a hub in Houston using about 10-12 aircraft. They would carry passengers, but no checked luggage. Kind of a LCC in the middle of the night only. This made for some pretty strange sectors as the last/first flights of the day to the cities where they started. I remember flying ATL-MSP (with about 50 people) and I think ATL-IND/STL and a few others that you would not expect a widebody on.

My last flight on one was surprisingly on AZ from LIS-FCO in an ex-EAL aircraft!
 
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RE: A300 Turns 30: Fond Memories?

Fri Apr 02, 2004 2:24 am

My only flight in an A-300 was back in 1992, with Alitalia FCO-LHR. The aircraft name was "Botticelli". As I was very young, I don't remember too much of this flight...it was quite empty and I remember is that I slept almost during the whole flight, as we took this connecting flight in FCO right after flying SCL-EZE-FCO...so you know...18 hours flying, 2 hours waiting at FCO, and then MORE flying gets you a little tired...

But what the heck...I FLEW IN AN A-300


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RE: A300 Turns 30: Fond Memories?

Fri Apr 02, 2004 2:59 am

I've always found the A300 to be a beautiful aircraft. Too bad newer Airbus aircraft did not inherit their parent's looks.

I've always been curious as to why it took awhile for the A300 to catch on. Correct me if I am wrong, but I seem to recall that the A300 was only moderately successful throughout most of the 1970s, with Eastern Airlines' order finally putting it on the map.

A very groundbreaking aircraft. It wrote the script for the twin-jet widebodies that dominate the skies now.
 
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RE: A300 Turns 30: Fond Memories?

Fri Apr 02, 2004 3:13 am

Nice thread!!
Tribute to a classic
Incredible aircraft, amazing power during take-off and very smooth landings too!

Used to fly Paris-Geneva some 20 years ago with AF
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RE: A300 Turns 30: Fond Memories?

Fri Apr 02, 2004 3:16 am

I have fond memories of flying IC Airbus 300s on BOM DEL BOM regularly during 1993-1995. It saddens me to see that only four are in active service. these too maybe gone within a couple of years.

My next and probably my last flight on an A300 will be on BOM MAA SIN sector on the 15th of this month. I hope its VT-EVD, its the only IC A300 which I have not flown.

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RE: A300 Turns 30: Fond Memories?

Fri Apr 02, 2004 3:17 am

BlackBox,

You are right... the firts years were terrible for Airbus with the A300...It was Ordered only by the "National" Airlines (AF/IB/AZ/LH) of the European Countries members of the Consortium...

Airlines around the world would admitt its reliability but didn't trust very much this new manufacturer... The aircraft itself was a very new concept : A twin engine twin aisles widebody, Short/Medium-haul aircraft...  Sad

Eastern and later Continental orders unlocked the situation... Most of airlines then thought that if a U.S airline, and not a small one, buy that plane, it must be a good one !


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RE: A300 Turns 30: Fond Memories?

Fri Apr 02, 2004 3:21 am

Just flew an A300-600 with LH from NUE to FRA back in FEB. Having flown once before on a PAL A300 from MNL-CEB as well, I would admit that the A300 is very very roomy. Did not give the cramped feeling at all. I do remember all the condensation coming out of the air condition vents while sitting on a steamy hot tarmac in Manila. It unnerved people I remember. All the call bells ringing and the people pointing. Fond fond memories.
 
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RE: A300 Turns 30: Fond Memories?

Fri Apr 02, 2004 3:28 am

I never flew on an A300, but I do have an interesting (well, somewhat at least) story to share.

Back in 1992 or so, Continental started flying the AB3 into MSY from IAH, once daily at first. It was flight #147 operating LAX-IAH-MSY. I used to live near the airport so I'd see it land pretty much every evening. In the morning, it would turn around for IAH and LAX as flight #153. Anyway, this plane intrigued me, so I wrote a poem about the plane...about one page in length...and mailed it to the Continental headquarters. They in turn mailed it to Airbus corporate. A few weeks later in the mail I received a wooden A300 model in the original Airbus livery with a note from the president of Airbus Industrie North America. I still have the model and letter, both in good condition.  Smile


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RE: A300 Turns 30: Fond Memories?

Fri Apr 02, 2004 3:53 am

I think the A300 is a terrific aircraft Big grin

The worlds first widebody twin engined airliner ... and big too!

I've loved every flight i have had on it, and wish i could have had many more, sadly though , like others from it's era, it's becoming quite rare now  Sad

It undoubtedly has been a brilliant platform for Airbus and it's other products, and when you fly on it, she feels strong and proud - just the way she looks.



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RE: A300 Turns 30: Fond Memories?

Fri Apr 02, 2004 4:08 am


In my book, the A300 is one of aviation history´s most revolutionary designs. In line with the Ju52, DC3, Comet, 707, 737, 747, 320 and 380.

My parents are still raving about that shiny new A300 of BavariaGermanair which took them to PMI in the mid 70s - a different world from the shabby Spantax Coronadoes they were used to... (though I definitely wouldn´t mind having one of those in my log  Smile/happy/getting dizzy )

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RE: A300 Turns 30: Fond Memories?

Fri Apr 02, 2004 5:29 am

Blackbox:

You'd actually be surprised: the A310, A330 and A340 all share a very similar fuselage to the A300. Cabin diameter is about the same, the nose and cockpit windows too, and the A300 and A310 both have similar tails (the A310 has a fuel tank somewhere back there) and all have the same fins.


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To me, the A330/A340 (themselves twins of sorts) only introduced a new cabin (and door) layout, new main landing gear, a radically different wing, tailplane, and of course, engines, avionics etc. but much of the fuselage looks off the shelf--including the distinctive kink in the floor that you notice on the window-line. What the 707 was to Boeing the A300 was to Airbus: a mould.

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RE: A300 Turns 30: Fond Memories?

Fri Apr 02, 2004 5:45 am

When I was a kid, every time I flew back from LAX there'd be several EA L1011s at the gates, but I always ended up on a lone A300 parked there. At the time I was a little upset (I always wanted to travel on an L1011) but looking back I'm so glad I had the opportunity to fly on the A300. It will remain one of my favorite airliners of all time.
 
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RE: A300 Turns 30: Fond Memories?

Fri Apr 02, 2004 6:00 am

I agree with everything that A300 fans have posted here, but I can't explain why on this site, the A300 (and A310 even more so!) have become forgotten airliners. I have seen so many threads about how wonderful the 767 is.

Let's remember what a revolutionary design the A300 is that others have since followed. My first A300 flight was with Olympic LHR-ATH in 1993, and I remember being impressed. I also flew LHR-BOS on AA when they had A300's on that route, and it was great for a transatlantic flight. I still take OA A300's to ATH regularly, and prefer them to a BA 757 or 767 any day of the week!

Why is it that the A300/310 have a relatively low profile on these boards?

I know that A300 freighters are still in production. Is the passenger version still available, are there any orders outstanding, or when was the last one built?

 
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RE: A300 Turns 30: Fond Memories?

Fri Apr 02, 2004 4:52 pm

Incidentally, when did the A310 enter service? 1982? 1983? Or 1984?

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RE: A300 Turns 30: Fond Memories?

Sat Apr 03, 2004 12:38 am

The A310 made its first test flight on April 3rd 1982 = 22 years ago !!!

First deliveries to Swissair and Lufthansa were made in March 1983, and the first revenue services were flown on 12 and 21 april 1983.


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RE: A300 Turns 30: Fond Memories?

Sat Apr 03, 2004 12:45 am

The A310 made its maiden flight in 1982 and entered service in 1983 with launch customers Swissair and Lufthansa.

FLYSSC, thanks for the wonderful pictures. The Air France old scheme is my favourite airline livery. I have a model at home of an Air France A300 in that livery.
My first flight on an A300 aircraft was back in 1980 with Air France from CDG to NCE for my aunt's wedding down in the French Riviera. The A300 was new at that time, and it was the only Airbus model that existed. When I flew on it, it was already painted in the new livery.
My last flight on an A300 was in 2000 with Egypt Air on a very short flight within Egypt, from ASW to LXR. It was on that type that I flew on the shortest flight, only 25 min from take off to touchdown! The flight time was so short that there was no food, not even beverage service on board.

The A300 has three first:
First widebody twin
First Airbus
First non US built widebody

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RE: A300 Turns 30: Fond Memories?

Sat Apr 03, 2004 12:52 am

Love it! Flew it literally hundreds of times, LH, FRA-TXL or HAM or MUC, I guess I have at least 20 flights on each end every one of them...spacious, not too noisy, reliable, comfortable load and unload...just great, one of my all-time favorites!

Happy Birthday and many happy years to come!!!
 
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RE: A300 Turns 30: Fond Memories?

Sat Apr 03, 2004 1:15 am

American 767,

As I mentionned, The A300 flew for the very first time with AF on May 23rd 1974. The A300 didn't wear the "old" AF very long, as the "new" color scheme, still in use, was adopted in 1975 to celebrate the arrival of Concorde in the Air France fleet.
Concorde F-BVFA was the very first a/c painted in the "new" colors for its inaugural flight to DKR and GIG on January 21st 1976.

The only Concorde painted in the old color scheme was the ill fated F-BTSC, for a World demonstration tout in 1976 but it never operated regular commercial services under this old color scheme.


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RE: A300 Turns 30: Fond Memories?

Sat Apr 03, 2004 3:06 am

well boys, age has sometimes its advantages...
I was lucky (and old enough) to make dozens of (cockpit) flights on this bird, which happened to be the second of only two A300-B1 produced, and the only one ever commercially exploited.
It was configured for 320 pax, and in those days was considered a really big flying machine.
The cockpit was very roomy and it was manned by 3 crew.
It was named "Aline" for the wife of the company's president.
Only the (8) F/As did not like too much their working conditions on board.
Must say we had a tremendous good support fm Airbus...


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RE: A300 Turns 30: Fond Memories?

Sat Apr 03, 2004 3:28 am

Surprising that the European industry, having built many technically wonderful planes (VC10, Caravelle, Trident) that were of no use to airlines (OK the Caravelle did pretty well) suddenly came up with an absolute winner, selling many hundreds of planes all over the world and remaining in production for longer than the 727.

I've flown many A300s - Olympic (LHR-ATH four times), Monarch (LGW to Corfu and back), Garuda (SYD-DPS-CGK; CGK-SIN), Air France (LHR-CDG). Unfortunately, I've never had the pleasure of an A310 and probably never will now.
 
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RE: A300 Turns 30: Fond Memories?

Sat Apr 03, 2004 3:42 am

Ive flow the A300b2 and the A310-200 and i must say i enjoyed both flights. The cabin is so spacious for a relatively small airliner (on the A310) and they were both very comfortable rides. I hope Airbus update the pair in the future
 
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RE: A300 Turns 30: Fond Memories?

Sat Apr 03, 2004 4:23 pm

I have fond memories of these birds. The first time, if i remember correctly, when I was bumped off by East West who put me on the IC flight which was operated by this bird. I was struck by the spaciousness of the cabin (I had never flown a widebody before!) and instantly fell in love with it! Incidentally, all the flights have been on either EHC or EHD, mostly the former!

Sad to see them leave the IC fleet!

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RE: A300 Turns 30: Fond Memories?

Sat Apr 03, 2004 4:37 pm

My only experience on the A-300 was flying from YOW to Washington (too young to remember which one!) Thinking back on that now, it seems odd that a wide-bodied aircraft from the US served YOW. Now, the largest aircraft to serve YOW to a US destination is an occasional A-319 to Washington.

The A-300 was a great experience from what I can remember. I remember it being so wide and spacious! And of course, it turned out to be my only flight with Eastern as well. Ah well.....

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RE: A300 Turns 30: Fond Memories?

Sat Apr 03, 2004 4:41 pm

My only A300 flights were about 6 jumpseats on Fedex A300-600F's while a Fedex employee.

A300 routes for me were MEM-YYZ/YVR.

 
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RE: A300 Turns 30: Fond Memories?

Sat Apr 03, 2004 5:14 pm

My fondest memory was seeing the prototype being scrapped! Typical Airbus care for their history...

Seriously though, I flew an A300B4-203 of Qantas (ex-Australian Airlines/TAA)... and it was a great flight on a great aircraft. I was well pleased to have been able to fly on one.

To this day it's my only flight on an Airbus product, though that will change in June when I get to do my first A330 flight with Qantas  Smile

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RE: A300 Turns 30: Fond Memories?

Sat Apr 03, 2004 5:32 pm

Too bad its becoming rare  Sad


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RE: A300 Turns 30: Fond Memories?

Sat Apr 03, 2004 10:06 pm

SAA ran the 300 B2K and B4 from 1976 until 2000 on domestic and regional services and I loved every flight. I also did a couple of flights on Lufthansa and once across the Atlantic JFK-LHR with American. I was also fortunate enough to ride jumpseat on SAA many times and that was always something special.

My wife was a stewardess on A300 for many years, when SAA retired them she qualified on the replacement 738, did one flight and resigned from flying the line, saying she wanted to fly on real planes, not toys!


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RE: A300 Turns 30: Fond Memories?

Sat Apr 03, 2004 11:32 pm

I have a fond memory - it was my first cockpit visit ever, on Premiair's A300.

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RE: A300 Turns 30: Fond Memories?

Sun Apr 04, 2004 1:10 am

An A300B4 of Egyptair gave me the first chance to watch the landing in an airliner, I attended the approach and landing at LHR, few years later it happened again on an A300-600 of Lufthansa, the crew were very nice during my cockpit visit and they invited me to attend the landing in Frankfurt. Surprisingly both firsts were A300's.
 
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RE: A300 Turns 30: Fond Memories?

Sun Apr 04, 2004 8:35 am

Eventhough I have never been on an A300 I really like the plane from what i see in the pictures. I would like to say "Way to go Airbus!!" I would like to fly AA's a300 but now they are on such a limited routing system. I would have to go to JFk, BOS or MIA to get on an A300 for AA. Well, I do hope that the airlines that fly them for passengers keep them flying with people inside.

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RE: A300 Turns 30: Fond Memories?

Sun Apr 04, 2004 9:04 pm

My first time on an A300 was a Thai aircraft routed Singapore-Bangkok in 1978 and I thought it was a twin engined DC-10, only recently did I realise it was not, aircraft was great, nice roomy interior with TG bright colours, freindly crew in colourful uniforms, it was a great flight on a great airline and a great aircraft.
 
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RE: A300 Turns 30: Fond Memories?

Sun Apr 04, 2004 9:38 pm

My first time on an A300 (-600 version) was on an AA flight in December EWR-SJU. They are a fine a/c, do the job very well they were intended to, for pax and freight capacity. AA is still a big user of them for their flights from the NY metro area to major destinations in the Carribbean due to their pax and freight capacity.
The A-300 came out long before the 767. It was a great start for the Airbus corporation, giving them an a/c that led Airbus to be a leading maker of major a/c and an a/c that made Boeing wake up. It was designed in the 70's, for modern human bodies, using the best technology available then, quality workmanship, fuel efficent by the use of 2 engines for a wide body, met a growing need for widebody twins, which led to Boeing adopting for the 767 and 777. As far as I know, it is a very reliable and solid a/c. As far as I know, the A300 involved with AA587 was the only flight accident caused by a structural failure in its 30 years of production. Truly the A300 is an important aircraft in modern jet history.

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