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DFWJIM
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New Orleans (MSY) International

Thu Apr 08, 2004 10:27 am

Hello,

I was in New Orleans on Monday and Tuesday of this week on business. I stayed at the La Quinta Inn near the airport and from my room I spent some time watching aircraft land and take off. One thing I noticed were that the take off and landing patterns changed constantly. A plane or two would land and take off from the north and then several planes would land/take off from west to east. After that several planes took off towards the north...

Is this the normal mode of operations at MSY? As a side note the weather was not an issue on either day - calm winds and plenty of sunshine.

Thanks for your answers.
 
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RE: New Orleans (MSY) International

Thu Apr 08, 2004 11:39 am

DFWJIM,

Tom in NO may be able to give you a more detailed answer, but from what I have witnessed, it's up to the captain's discretion as to which runway to use if both are available for use and if the weather is good. We're not extraordinarily busy here, so that option is available frequently. It's not uncommon for an aircraft to depart on runway 1, for example, and for an aircraft to land on runway 19 (same runway, opposite direction) just minutes later.


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RE: New Orleans (MSY) International

Thu Apr 08, 2004 2:07 pm

Yeah,the above is true,and what is eery is when you land at night from the west turn right to the terminal and see a set of landing lights in the distance ready to the land on the same runway from the east.......I am sure ATC has plenty experience in keeping the seperation but it is ..........uneasy to say the least.

Off the topic,I notice that MSY seems to be under a major east/west high altitude flight path. The amount of contrails and traffic is amazing.

Back to the original post,I have seen aircraft takeoff and land downwind....so go figure.
 
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RE: New Orleans (MSY) International

Thu Apr 08, 2004 10:48 pm

Sorry I'm a little late getting to this thread. Just got back in from out of town.

As you obviously know, arrival and departure runways vary based on the winds, and on aircraft performance. That said, during the slow times at MSY, it is not uncommon to give flight crews a few options regarding runway choice. If all things are equal, no winds, and perfect weather, we usually like to depart on runway 19 (to the south), and land on 10 (towards the east). Departures on 01 (to the north) are generally not approved except for operational neccessity or the weather (due to noise restrictions).

In addition, Tuesday operations are usually limited a bit in that Tuesday is our runway maintenance day. One Tuesday we'll close 1/19 for most of the day, the next Tuesday we'll do 10/28. I'm not sure which runway was scheduled for this past Tuesday.

As for them varying the patterns this past week as much as they apparently did, my guess would be that the winds, low as they were, were probably variable, and enough to neccesitate changes now and then, especially if there was more than one aircraft in a row doing the same thing. Then there's the Tuesday maintenance issues.

Hope this helps.

Tom at MSY
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RE: New Orleans (MSY) International

Thu Apr 08, 2004 11:07 pm

Hotels to stay at on business and still have good views are the New Orleans Plaza Hotel,and Airport Hilton.
 
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RE: New Orleans (MSY) International

Fri Apr 09, 2004 2:26 am

One Tuesday we'll close 1/19 for most of the day, the next Tuesday we'll do 10/28.

Bugger!  Wow!

THAT'S why I can almost never get good spotting on Tuesdays!!! Often tend to pick up checks from my dad on that day, and buzz by the bookstore to see if anyone's departing Rwy19. Obviously I never knew that about to maintenance days... but odd that it almost always seems like 1/19 is the one closed.  Sad
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RE: New Orleans (MSY) International

Mon Apr 19, 2004 12:52 pm

Where do the aviation enthusiast plane spot at MSY when not staying at a hotel?
 
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RE: New Orleans (MSY) International

Mon Apr 19, 2004 1:12 pm

On the ramp, of course!  Big grin

Actually, there aren't too many places to spot. If aircraft are landing on Runway 19 (or departing on 1), you can get within a few feet...literally...of the taxi way on some side roads North of the field. They are kind of hard to find if you aren't familiar with the area though, but it makes for a really interesting vantage point.

Another decent option is the Laketown recreation area by the Treasure Chest casino. There is a big fishing pier out over the lake which gives you a nice view of aircraft on final approach onto Runway 19...about 1 1/2 miles out from the runway.


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RE: New Orleans (MSY) International

Fri Apr 23, 2004 3:54 am

The side road at the threshold of rwy 19 is the best! It's in the NW corner of the field. As Steve said, you're within feet of the aircraft. When I take my son over to visit we can literally see the flight crew waving if we initiate a wave to them. My 5 year old loves it! Me too. Big grin
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RE: New Orleans (MSY) International

Fri Apr 23, 2004 4:12 am

The side road at the threshold of rwy 19 is the best!


The fact that it's in the parking lot of the city's biggest Adult/Nudie store doesnt hurt I'll bet  Big thumbs up
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RE: New Orleans (MSY) International

Fri Apr 23, 2004 6:51 am

Been to the pier by the casino,it is a good view. What is this location from the NW side of the airport. Is it by the Westgate hotel? And what about on the south side near Airline Drive,what are some good spots?
 
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RE: New Orleans (MSY) International

Fri Apr 23, 2004 7:06 am

William,

Yes, the real good spot we are referring to is indeed very close to the Wingate Inn. Just a couple of blocks behind it, as if you are driving towards the airport terminal. They have a couple of roads which dead end at the airport fence just feet from the taxi way. And as ConcordeBoy said, look for the big adult book store, it's right on one of the roads.

As for locations near Airline Drive, there are not many. You could always just park on the side of the street in the big empty fields that are just beyond the beginning of Runway 1 across the street from Airline Drive. The aircraft on final would be no more than 150ft. high or so at that point.


Steve/MSY

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