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schweizair
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For Sale: L1011, Only A Million Hours Old

Wed Apr 14, 2004 5:35 am

Does anybody know what an airline does if a plane is sold? What components would be stripped out before selling it? Are there any components that they wouldn't want another airline to see? If the walls were done in dark gray plastic, would they be removed if still in excellent condition? Also, even if the plane is fairly old, what sections would the airline be most concerned about removing and why?
 
Caymanair
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RE: For Sale: L1011, Only A Million Hours Old

Wed Apr 14, 2004 5:42 am

the airline might want to remove remnants of their 'image' ie. special seating, logos, stickers
 
tristar2000
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RE: For Sale: L1011, Only A Million Hours Old

Wed Apr 14, 2004 7:35 am

Only a million hours old

Let's not exaggerate here... older Tristars probably have something like 70 000 hours and around 30 000 cycles. Some may have a little more, but that's it!!!

With the way these planes are built, they can outlast more decades than you could believe... problem is newer more efficient products are out there!!!

As for the post, all that relates to the company (logos, etc.) is usually what companies remove, and probably some optional equipment they still need to support their fleet as long as the buyer doesn't.

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artsyman
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RE: For Sale: L1011, Only A Million Hours Old

Wed Apr 14, 2004 7:38 am

Have you contacted Northwest, they are currently in the market for younger planes.

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777236ER
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RE: For Sale: L1011, Only A Million Hours Old

Wed Apr 14, 2004 7:40 am

Given that there are 8766 hours in an average year, an aircraft would have to fly for 114 years constantly. Say an aircraft is in the air 70% of its life, then the aircraft would be 163 years old!
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JOSS21
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RE: For Sale: L1011, Only A Million Hours Old

Wed Apr 14, 2004 7:41 am

I couldn't agree more Artsy.
 
Whisperliner
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RE: For Sale: L1011, Only A Million Hours Old

Wed Apr 14, 2004 11:27 am

does anyone know what airlines do with their old interriors? There must be tons of old seats and fixtures from early 70's that were upgraded- what happens to those? (wall panels, paritions, louges)?
 
schweizair
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RE: For Sale: L1011, Only A Million Hours Old

Wed Apr 14, 2004 11:32 am

Tristar2000: It was a joke! I'm not saying there actually is a Tristar with a million hours on it. Think of it as a compliment towards Lockheed, the plane can take a lickin' and keep on tickin'.
 
EMBQA
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RE: For Sale: L1011, Only A Million Hours Old

Wed Apr 14, 2004 11:41 am

Does anybody know what an airline does if a plane is sold? What components would be stripped out before selling it?

Well, most all cases airlines lease their aircraft and they are owned by a leasing company. In that case the airline is required to return the aircraft with a current inspection and all time controlled items at 1/2 life or better. The engines and props if so equipped must be the original set and also have recent overhauls. In some cases the leasing company will required the airline to paint the aircraft in a basic color....Normally all white. All this even if the aircraft is headed to the desert...!!! I can think of several cases that I have personally delt with where the aircraft was returned to the lessor, given a fresh C-check, all the items where repaired, just to have the plane parked for 3 years then later scrapped.
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tristar2000
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RE: For Sale: L1011, Only A Million Hours Old

Wed Apr 14, 2004 12:44 pm

Schweizair: No offense was taken!!! Problem is some people who actually read the thread and are not familiar with a/c time units might be led to believe your title... and like 777236ER points out in his simple, logical explanation, it would be quite a feat to reach such a number!!!

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LVZXV
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RE: For Sale: L1011, Only A Million Hours Old

Wed Apr 14, 2004 12:52 pm

AF didn't remove the seats or carpeting of the 732s they sold to AU! Leasing companies are a pain in the ass sometimes. Apparently AV aircraft (none are Colombian-registered) have everything written in anything but Spanish, and all galley equipment in AR's ex-BA 732s has PEGASUS stickers all over it. Very confusing!

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SR 103
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RE: For Sale: L1011, Only A Million Hours Old

Wed Apr 14, 2004 1:18 pm

Have you contacted Northwest, they are currently in the market for younger planes.

Have you contacted Continental as well? I mean with such a old and rusty plane, you need some old and grumpy crew to go with it.

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artsyman
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RE: For Sale: L1011, Only A Million Hours Old

Wed Apr 14, 2004 1:23 pm

I mean with such a old and rusty plane, you need some old and grumpy crew to go with it.
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If you really want to be efficient, why not get them both from UAL ?
 
N730AS
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RE: For Sale: L1011, Only A Million Hours Old

Wed Apr 14, 2004 1:54 pm

Why would anyone in their right mind (unless they had oodles of money to put into it) buy a A/C in a condition like that? I remember reading somewhere that a D-Check on a L-1011 is something like $800,000!
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