catholic2006
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Question About Express Airlines

Sat May 01, 2004 5:17 am

Okay, here at State College Airport we have Delta Express, USAirways Express, United Express, and Northwest Airlink.
Aren't those the same things as Delta Air Lines and USAirways???
The reason I ask is because sometimes the Delta Express planes are under the airline title "Comair"; USAirways Express with "Mesa Airlines" or "Allegheny something"; and Northwest with either "Pinnacle Airlines" or "Northwest Airlink"
Why don't they just call it 'airline'?
Is there a specific reason like those airlines are actually ran by another company or is that just to distinguish or ad flavor?

-Chris

(dumb question, yes, i know i'm dumb)
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aa757first
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RE: Question About Express Airlines

Sat May 01, 2004 5:59 am

US Airways doesn't fly the express flights. They own Allegheny, Mesa, MidAtlantic, Piedmont and PSA to fly these flights for them. Its alot like when you are flying a US Airways flight operated by United. The consumer has to know what airline they will actually be flying on (according to an AirTran trip report on here). Therefore, it has to be listed as "US Airways by Allegheny". Why they do it? I don't know. I'm sure it has something to do with unions and payscales. IMO, A Piedmont flight attendant flying ABE to PHL everyday shouldn't be paid as much as a US flight attendant flying PHL to LAS or PIT to MCO.

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RE: Question About Express Airlines

Sat May 01, 2004 6:24 am

Aa757first,

They actually don't own the regionals, they are their own independent company. These companys...such as Mesa, Mesaba, Alleghany, PSA, Comair and so on have contracts that say they agree to operate under the major airline's name, and this operation is done under guidelines set forth by the major airline. They're pay and benefits are totally seperate from the parent company. That is why if you get on an express flight, you will probably see "Operated by ____ Airlines." Basically the contract is only for the name, and other benefits, not ownership.
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RE: Question About Express Airlines

Sat May 01, 2004 6:29 am

Delta Air Lines owns both Comair and ASA. As previously noted, its not the actual mainline airline operating "Express" (or Connection) flights. It is subsidiary or contracted partner airlines doing the flying.

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RE: Question About Express Airlines

Sat May 01, 2004 6:40 am

Not in all cases....... A good example would be Continental Express, also know as ExpressJet. At one time Continental Express was fully and wholly owned by its mainline carrier. A few years back it was spun off and now has its own stock, Board of Directors and so forth. Mainline still owns some stock, but the controlling interest is with ExpressJet. United owns none of its 'Express' carriers, but does have a say in some of its flight operations. USAirways has just recently purchased Allegheny and Piedmont and PSA have been owned by mainline for sometime. Mesa, Colgan and Shuttle America are their own airlines, and are contracted to fly as 'USAirways Express'. Delta fully owns both ASA and Comair...but I've read they are in talks to resell them back to the open market. Company's like Chautauqua and Trans States fly under many different liverys and are independently owned.
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catholic2006
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RE: Question About Express Airlines

Sat May 01, 2004 6:58 am

k, Thanx, that's just a question that has seriously been bugging me for sometime.

-Chris
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RE: Question About Express Airlines

Sat May 01, 2004 4:19 pm

Allegheny, Piedmont, and PSA are all wholly owned by USAirways. They have been for as long as they have had those names. When US bought each commuter they renamed them with a classic airline name that was part of the US Air history.
 
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RE: Question About Express Airlines

Sat May 01, 2004 4:44 pm

also express airlines have there own code.

ExpressJet dba Continental Express RU
Mesaba dba Northwest Airlink XJ
Pinnacle dba Northwest Airlink 9E
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