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erikwilliam
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Airbus A380 Price?

Mon May 17, 2004 8:59 pm

Hey guys, good morning from a cold, cloudy and sad Brasil today!!!
I know that a lot has been discussed here about the A380, like deliveris, first-flight etc. etc.
I don´t know if the price was alerey discussed here, I was looking that up but couldn´t find.
Does anybody knows how much it´ll cost, and the freighter version??
Maybe someone can give some links on that.
U all have a nice week start.

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RE: Airbus A380 Price?

Mon May 17, 2004 11:51 pm

2006 list is $265M to $280M USD.
 
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RE: Airbus A380 Price?

Mon May 17, 2004 11:58 pm

Isn't it double-decked ?!? I would say the double price of a 777  Big thumbs up
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RE: Airbus A380 Price?

Mon May 17, 2004 11:59 pm

thx for the call man,
I´ve read that for Airbus to start having profits the´ll have to built at least 250 A380´s to then start making some money.
Do U think there´ll be enough space for that???
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RE: Airbus A380 Price?

Tue May 18, 2004 12:05 am

I don't really think they need all that work to make some money....
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RE: Airbus A380 Price?

Tue May 18, 2004 12:19 am

don´t know LIPH, let´s think.
Investments are over USD10bi, price of the plane let´s say USD300mi, and let´s say that Airbus has a 10% profit margin, that means USD30mi, so....
they gotta sell 300 A380´s to make the USD9bi back.Given that my numbers are only figurative, we can see how it goes.
Anyway, thx so much for the replies U guys.Have a nice day.

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RE: Airbus A380 Price?

Tue May 18, 2004 3:31 am

300 just to break even? There are how many orders, like 130? What exactly is their (Airbus') forecasted sales over the next 20 years, 1000 A380's? And Boeing said 500 wasn't worth it.  Yeah sure
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RE: Airbus A380 Price?

Tue May 18, 2004 3:34 am

300 just to break even? There are how many orders, like 130? What exactly is their (Airbus') forecasted sales over the next 20 years, 1000 A380's? And Boeing said 500 wasn't worth it

actually 250 to break even, so they are half way there already. SAnd even if they only sell 500 they have doubled their money, Which aint bad. And yes you're right Airbus' forcasted sales are 1000.
 
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RE: Airbus A380 Price?

Tue May 18, 2004 4:42 am

Yeap guys, this is a real man´s deal, aint like grandma grocery
store......money, money, money......
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RE: Airbus A380 Price?

Thu May 20, 2004 8:21 am

'isn't it double-decked ?!? I would say the double price of a 777''

not necessarily the Price of a a380-800 is 280M and the B777 is 130M. That IS a little over double the price. When Airbus Releases its A380-700, it will cost just about the 777 don't you think ?
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RE: Airbus A380 Price?

Thu May 20, 2004 8:23 am

777's in USD

777-200 153.5 - 171.0
777-200ER 162.0 - 182.0
777-200LR 188.0 - 213.5
777-300 178.5 - 203.5
777-300ER 203.5 - 231.5
 
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RE: Airbus A380 Price?

Thu May 20, 2004 9:19 am

Can someone tell the REAL difference between the LR and the ER. Im getting tiered of seeing a 777-200LR and a ER and being told that they are not the same. And is they a phyical or chemical difference. TELL ME SOMETHING!!!!!  Angry
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RE: Airbus A380 Price?

Thu May 20, 2004 9:21 am

ER range = 7500nm odd
LR range = 9000nm odd

E = Extended
L = Long
 
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RE: Airbus A380 Price?

Thu May 20, 2004 9:27 am

Sorry Roberta I don't mean to be picky or anything, but just FYI:

"L = Long"

L is actually Longer!! Big grin
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RE: Airbus A380 Price?

Thu May 20, 2004 9:27 am

VSXA380X800,
The 777-200LR and 777-300ER have different wingtips than other 777's. The wingtips are raked backwards, just like on the 767-400.
 
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RE: Airbus A380 Price?

Thu May 20, 2004 9:32 am

Thanks a lot Roberta you saved me hours of research.

Why do they have a short range and a long range, wouldn't it make sense to just just have a Long Range aircraft. That IS the purpose of the 777........ Isn't it ???
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RE: Airbus A380 Price?

Thu May 20, 2004 9:35 am

well the LR has a much stronger structure than the 'ER' and 'A' to allow it to have a higher MTOW, so it can carry all that extra fuel. it also has more powerful engines so it can get in the air. All this inevitable means the weight of the plane increases and fuel consuption and maintenance costs suffer a bit, so for the shorter routes it work out cheaper using the 'ER'.

[Edited 2004-05-20 02:38:47]
 
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RE: Airbus A380 Price?

Thu May 20, 2004 9:37 am

"Why do they have a short range and a long range, wouldn't it make sense to just just have a Long Range aircraft."

I believe it's to do with weight. For example, an airline which requires an aircraft as efficient as the 777 for a particular job that doesn't require the extra range of the ER or LR model may find that the lighter short-range model is even more efficient, as it requires less power to take-off, and consequently less fuel. Uprated engines for the heavier models may also be heavier themselves, although about that I'm not 100% sure.
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RE: Airbus A380 Price?

Thu May 20, 2004 9:43 am

Can someone tell the REAL difference between the LR and the ER. Im getting tiered of seeing a 777-200LR and a ER and being told that they are not the same.

The long winded response-

There are two sizes of 777. The 777-200 has a capacity of 305 passengers in three class configuration. A 777-300 has a capacity of 370 passengers in three class configuration. The difference comes in range and associated MTOW.

(abbreviation)(full name)(length)(wingspan)(range nm)(MTOW)(passenger capacity)

772A ( 777-200 )(209 ft)(199 ft)(5,210 nm)(545,000 lb)(305 three-class)
772ER (777-200ER)(209 ft)(199 ft)(7,730 nm)(656,000 lb)(301 three-class)
772LR (777-200LR)(209 ft)(212 ft)(9,280 nm)(766,600 lb)(301 three-class)

773A (777-300)(242 ft)(199 ft)(5,955 nm)(666,000 lb)(368 three-class)
773ER (777-300ER)(242 ft)(212 ft)(7,705 nm)(775,000 lb)(368 three-class)

You can see that the alll 777 share the same wing, and that the only main difference between the -200 and -300 is a 30' fuselage plug.

The 772LR and 773ER are members of the 777 Long Range Program, which is intended to stretch the range of the existing 773 and 772ER. These two models have wingtip extensions to improve their aerodyamics on long-range flights.
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RE: Airbus A380 Price?

Thu May 20, 2004 11:11 am

Just a comment. They have sold 120-130 of them (don't know the exact figure), but technically, they likely are not halfway to the breakeven factor when one considers the discounts offered to launch and early customer discounts that have surely been offered thus far. Same thing with the 7E7.

Also, does anyone know if that US$10billion figure includes the cost of building the new assembly buildings and facilities in Toulousse for the 380? Also, can someone tell me how to spell Toulousse?

 
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RE: Airbus A380 Price?

Fri May 21, 2004 12:43 am

Iowa744fan,

you spell it Toulouse, and say it like "to loose".
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RE: Airbus A380 Price?

Fri May 21, 2004 12:46 am

Can someone tell the REAL difference between the LR and the ER. Im getting tiered of seeing a 777-200LR and a ER and being told that they are not the same.

This problem comes from different uses of LR and ER. There needs to be a standard. An LR at Boeing is called an ER elsewhere and vise versa.
 
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RE: Airbus A380 Price?

Fri May 21, 2004 1:22 am

...built at least 250 A380´s to then start making some money...

Isn't it this target an easy one to meet? I am thinking of total number of 747-series have ever been built so far and it seems 250 is not a big number. Am I right to compare A380 with B747 series?
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