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icebud
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BMI Charters

Tue May 25, 2004 7:06 am

Being primarily a scheduled carrier, how do BMI fare on charter flights? I notice they operate a fair amount out of EDI and GLA in particular.

I take it that being scheduled and having a business class cabin, the airbuses will provide good legroom but they don't look as if they provide in-flight entertainment?

How do they compare to the major specialist charter carriers in the UK?
 
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RE: BMI Charters

Tue May 25, 2004 7:13 am

BMI's A320's certainly have TV screens for the saftey videos.

Have been on the knock on effect of a BMI charter when the A320 operating MAN-LHR BD581 was late from Corfu. The BD581 was then cancelled and all hell broke loose!
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David_itl
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RE: BMI Charters

Tue May 25, 2004 7:23 am


They did (do?) have a couple of A321s in charter config (G-MIDE and G-MIDJ if I remember correctly).

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RE: BMI Charters

Tue May 25, 2004 7:47 am

David_itl,
BMI have recently introduced A321 aircraft on some LHR-MAN services, instead of A320. Good news for BMI as they are obviously doing well, I don't know if this might be the aircraft you talk of though
 
icebud
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RE: BMI Charters

Wed May 26, 2004 6:09 am

Obviously by converting the 5 abreast business seating into 6 abreast they have an all economy situation for the charters. But do they have a specific few aircaft dedicated to charters i.e with inflight entertainment packages also or do they just use whats available?

I think the mixed configuration A321 seats 195. What does it seat in all charter configuration then?
 
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RE: BMI Charters

Wed May 26, 2004 6:25 am

BoySteve - BD have operated the A321 on MAN-LHR services for quite a while, I travelled on G-MIDI (IIRC) in January 2002, and A321s were frequent visitors to MAN when I visited then
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RE: BMI Charters

Wed May 26, 2004 6:32 am

bmi did have dedicated "charter" A321s with an all-economy 215 seat layout and IFE, so they offer the same seat pitch as other charter flights.

All bmi A321s do have IFE systems installed, but only the charter aircraft have the headset jack-points and controls in the seat armrest to enable them to be used as a conventional IFE system.

I'm lead to believe that the aircraft dedicated to the scheduled LHR-TFS/TFN services in the winter is fitted with charter seats, but at a scheduled pitch for the usual total of 195. However they do not convert to 5 abreast so business has the centre-seat left empty. This enables bmi to offer IFE on these relativley long flights to compete better with other airlines...

bmi's own short-haul scheduled seats are actually the same ones Lufthansa uses, and were never designed for IFE connections...

It used to be easy to identify the bmi charter A321s because they had Air 2000's name on the side! More recently though they have had no external markings to identify them...

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However, I don't think bmi have any A321s dedicated charter to charter work this summer. After the Air 2000 contract ended in 2001, bmi did most of their charter work for the MyTravel Group, but with their troubles they have brought most of that work in-house to MyTravel Airways as a result of cutbaks.

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RE: BMI Charters

Wed May 26, 2004 7:52 am

They have an A320 flight doing NCL-VCE-NCL, but I think this starts off in GLA
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bhxforever
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RE: BMI Charters

Wed May 26, 2004 7:56 am

BMI are operating for Monarch this summer at BHX due to their withdrawal of one of the based aircraft. Not sure if this is an A320 or an A321 though?
 
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RE: BMI Charters

Wed May 26, 2004 8:05 am

I flew on a Charter BMI flight in 2001, G-MIDC, MAN-MJT. It was in all Y and had the usual drop down ife. Nothing to write home about.

Oh, well the cockpit door was wedged open on the return flight so maybe there is. Anyway it was operating on behalf of Airtours.
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richardw
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RE: BMI Charters

Wed May 26, 2004 5:23 pm

I think they did a LHR-CTA last year, not sure if this has ceased since Air Malta and BA now do LGW-CTA.
 
L1011aaron
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RE: BMI Charters

Thu May 27, 2004 3:42 am

Last year they did following for Kosmar:
Glasgow - Heraklion - GLasgow
Glasgow - Kos - GLasgow
East Midlands - Kefalonia - East Midlands
Cardiff - Zante - Cardiff

For My travel Group (mainly Panorama ) :
Belfast - Gerona - BFS
BFS - Tenerife South - BFS
BFS - Las Palmas - BFS
BFS - Faro - BFS
Also some from Dublin

If i remember rightly a BD charter Airbus A321 experienced severe weather difficulties on a flight from Larnaca - EMA . Nosecone was severely damaged and wing. There are some photos on A.NET. This flight was featured on recent Holdays from Hell programme on ITV 1.
 
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RE: BMI Charters

Thu May 27, 2004 3:52 am

What are they up to in BHX? I know they definately had a Saturday ALC (or was it AGP?), but has anything else been added to this or is this the only rotation of the week? I think (?) this replaces the AEU 737 that did the flight last year.

EAF are also covering some Monarch work, as my Tuesday PMI flight in a few weeks is now EAf, it was Monarch when we booked...
 
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RE: BMI Charters

Thu May 27, 2004 4:01 am

I don't know their exact programme at EDI, but it certainly includes a Bastia flight, which is what duo were going to be doing, so I don't know if they were planning it before or if it was a last minute decision to take up the route after duo went bust.
 
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RE: BMI Charters

Thu May 27, 2004 4:51 am

GLA- Verona Pisa Venice
Faro Heraklion Kos Palma Ibiza
I think BD are also operating to Dubrovnik later on in the summer
 
icebud
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RE: BMI Charters

Thu May 27, 2004 5:00 am

So do they still retain a few A321's exclusively fitted out and used for charters, or because of the charter cutbacks do they just use scheduled aircraft that can be increased to 6-abreast when needed?

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