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China Eastern Airlines To Purchase 10 A330s

Wed May 26, 2004 6:23 am

Handelsblatt - the German daily-published daily newspaper - has revealed that a €1 billion contract for 10 A330s for China Eastern is almost ready to be signed.

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RE: China Eastern Airlines To Purchase 10 A330s

Wed May 26, 2004 6:26 am

Didn't they already order 4 A332s a few months ago? Is this a repeat order or are they firming up and increasing the previous order?
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RE: China Eastern Airlines To Purchase 10 A330s

Wed May 26, 2004 7:19 am

China Southern have A330s on order, but this one for China Eastern is new.
 
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RE: China Eastern Airlines To Purchase 10 A330s

Wed May 26, 2004 7:24 am

The A330 is their single best product. Good for them.
 
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RE: China Eastern Airlines To Purchase 10 A330s

Wed May 26, 2004 9:07 am

The article doesn't say when the planes are to be delivered. Does anyone have an educated guess?
 
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RE: China Eastern Airlines To Purchase 10 A330s

Wed May 26, 2004 9:20 am

"The A330 is their single best product. Good for them. "

Idunno 'bout 'good for them'. The Chinese seem to buy one of everything; it was just a matter of time before they got to the A330-200 (or substitute just about any other aircraft currently on the market).
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RE: China Eastern Airlines To Purchase 10 A330s

Wed May 26, 2004 11:44 am

M11, Actually I meant good for Airbus. The 332 is the one model of their line that is clearly better than the competing Boeing product. (But of course I would rather have seen Boeing get the order)

The CAAC or China Aviation Supply Corp does seem to order a few of everything.
 
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RE: China Eastern Airlines To Purchase 10 A330s

Wed May 26, 2004 7:05 pm

i'm not too sure about the other 2 mainland carriers, but MU orders 330s is not a surprise as the current long haul routes are operated by A343 or 346. MU is never a big fan of boeing.
 
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RE: China Eastern Airlines To Purchase 10 A330s

Wed May 26, 2004 7:07 pm

good to hear sth about my home town airline, not a lot of news about them here.
 
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RE: China Eastern Airlines To Purchase 10 A330s

Wed May 26, 2004 7:16 pm

Just one word and BINGO!!! Out of their holes crawl the A vs. B fanatics.

Kids...get a life, you are getting so booooring!!
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RE: China Eastern Airlines To Purchase 10 A330s

Wed May 26, 2004 8:06 pm

Any one knows how many 330´s for Air China, or is it China Air......
you know the carrier with a cherryblossom(?) on tailfin??

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RE: China Eastern Airlines To Purchase 10 A330s

Wed May 26, 2004 8:19 pm

Yes, the China Airlines A330 has been produced and is currently undergoing pre delivery preparation. Initial photos are on Airliners.net, but without titles (just the plum blossom on the tail).

As for CEA, I think they need an aircraft of this size, to replace the A300-600s, which are currently used on regional routes. Looking forward to seeing them.
 
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RE: China Eastern Airlines To Purchase 10 A330s

Wed May 26, 2004 8:56 pm

so,what routes are they going to use the A330s. hopefully they'll use them on routes like PVG-SIN, replacing the narrow body A320s
 
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RE: China Eastern Airlines To Purchase 10 A330s

Wed May 26, 2004 8:59 pm

This is great news - hope to see them in HKG soon (I'm sure we will coz they send just about their entire fleet here  Big grin )
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RE: China Eastern Airlines To Purchase 10 A330s

Wed May 26, 2004 11:56 pm

Here's the question: are they A330-200's or A330-300's?

The A330-300's make more sense for regional routes in Asia given the fact you can fly nearly 5,000 nautical miles on the A333, which means most of eastern Asia is within reach of the A333. It'll be perfect for a route like PVG-NRT.
 
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RE: China Eastern Airlines To Purchase 10 A330s

Thu May 27, 2004 12:01 am

China Eastern seem to have a very good relationship with Airbus. They have also purchased 737NG. Having flown their 319/320's, there service is very good, and the 330 will enhance this. I guess that Airbus/China Eastern will keep this underwraps until Farnborough to get more exposure for both.
 
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RE: China Eastern Airlines To Purchase 10 A330s

Thu May 27, 2004 1:26 am

I have a feeling that they will replace the A300-600s with the A330s.

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RE: China Eastern Airlines To Purchase 10 A330s

Thu May 27, 2004 1:35 am

When are these planes supposed to be delivered?

Wasn't it rumoured they were also looking at the B7E7?
 
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RE: China Eastern Airlines To Purchase 10 A330s

Thu May 27, 2004 1:49 am

Wasn't it rumoured they were also looking at the B7E7?

The Boeing fans here would have you believe that every airline on the planet is going to buy at least 25 7E7s, and that Airbus will never sell another A330 Big grin
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RE: China Eastern Airlines To Purchase 10 A330s

Thu May 27, 2004 1:53 am

Actually, the CEO of China Eastern said that they would order 7E7s; it was just a question of how many. They may well order 7E7s as well and soon, perhaps as soon as Farnborough. There's talk of an order larger than ANA's for the 7E7 by China Aviation Supply Company to be operated by MU, CA, CZ and possibly other Chinese carriers.

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RE: China Eastern Airlines To Purchase 10 A330s

Thu May 27, 2004 9:27 pm

Could it be the B7E7 has just lost its first head on battle with the A330?
 
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RE: China Eastern Airlines To Purchase 10 A330s

Thu May 27, 2004 10:18 pm

Sabenapilot,

Yes If China Eastern places order with Airbus then they chose it over the 7E7. But, we do not know all the reasons, China Eastern may require the aircraft for certain routes sooner, or needs the extra capacity of 333.

Anyway, I like your cheek, and I am sure some others on this side of the pond will be answering with their own feelings!!!
 
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RE: China Eastern Airlines To Purchase 10 A330s

Fri May 28, 2004 6:05 pm

Apparently they won't....
'Ignore' is the way they deal with things which might show the B7E7 is not the best one-single-plane-to-replace-3-others-and-PERFECT-for-all-different-needs-thus-useless-to-even-bother-mentioning-a-product-from-that-manufacturer-from-Europe-which-has-caused-us-too-many-sleepless-nights-already.
 
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RE: China Eastern Airlines To Purchase 10 A330s

Sat May 29, 2004 3:45 am

Good observation Sabenapilot.



 
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RE: China Eastern Airlines To Purchase 10 A330s

Sat May 29, 2004 4:56 am

"Could it be the B7E7 has just lost its first head on battle with the A330?"

Probably not. They can acquire the A330 faster than they can get the 7E7. The A330 is also a known quantity with a service record.

That does not mean the 7E7 is out of the picture. The 7E7 project will almost certainly extend far beyond the two models that are on offer right now. It will evolve into a larger family that will be based on the same technology. If the 7E7 that is aimed at the 332 actually does show a 20% efficiency advantage, 332 operators will be at a cost disadvantage and will have to respond.

Perhaps the Belgians should apply the same skepticism of the 7E7 to the claims from Airbus about the A380 sometime. Neither airplane has flown even once yet elicit such different reactions.
 
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RE: China Eastern Airlines To Purchase 10 A330s

Sat May 29, 2004 7:06 am

Please note the quoted 20% lower operating costs of the B7E7 is compared to 'similar sized aircraft types'. Boeing never specifies which plane or what mix of planes it uses: is it the brandnew A330-200 or the 25+ years old A300B2?
Knowing both companies (A or B) tend to make comparisons in such way they can maximize the numbers so as to look as spectacular as can be, I bet Boeing is referring to older planes than the A330 in which case that 20% might be much much lower....

As a side note:
why do (generally) Americans always have to link the B7E7 with the A380? The B7E7 is not even half the A380, so you can hardly say they are playing in the same league, yet on every A380 topic somebody has to start talking about the B7E7 and vice versa. HAS ENYBODY NOTICED HOW REDICULOUS THIS IS? It would be like Airbus fans saying: 'hey, don't forget about the A318' in a topic about the B7E7!  Nuts Is it because new Boeing projects are so rare or what?


 
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RE: China Eastern Airlines To Purchase 10 A330s

Sat May 29, 2004 8:05 am


Please note the quoted 20% lower operating costs of the B7E7 is compared to 'similar sized aircraft types'.


Both points are incorrectly stated. Boeing said 7e7 would burn 20% less fuel, but on the cost side, it's > 10% not 20%. Boeing did compared the 7e7-9 to the 332 and claimed similar advantages hold.


why do (generally) Americans always have to link the B7E7 with the A380?


In other cases, you might have a point. But the point N79969 brought up had nothing to do with the size of the aircraft. He just asked you to have the same standard when it comes to manufacturers' performance claims of development aircraft.
 
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RE: China Eastern Airlines To Purchase 10 A330s

Sat May 29, 2004 9:13 am

To all:

Could it be the B7E7 has just lost its first head on battle with the A330?

Maybe; or perhaps the A330 has won one of its' last....

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RE: China Eastern Airlines To Purchase 10 A330s

Tue Jun 01, 2004 3:10 am


Could it be the B7E7 has just lost its first head on battle with the A330?

'Ignore' is the way they deal with things which might show the B7E7 is not the best one-single-plane-to-replace-3-others-and-PERFECT-for-all-different-needs-thus-useless-to-even-bother-mentioning-a-product-from-that-manufacturer-from-Europe-which-has-caused-us-too-many-sleepless-nights-already.


It looks like Sabenapilot spoke too soon. It is now reported that China Eastern will order 10 330s and 20 7e7s.
 
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RE: China Eastern Airlines To Purchase 10 A330s

Tue Jun 01, 2004 10:29 am

As a big partner of Cathay Pacific Airways I dont mind what they order as long as they fly to Hong Kong  Smile/happy/getting dizzy
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RE: China Eastern Airlines To Purchase 10 A330s

Tue Jun 01, 2004 10:31 am

sweet...more A330s  Smile - China Eastern's livery would look DASHING on the A330

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