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Sept 11 Diversions

Sun Jun 27, 2004 2:14 pm

I was just reading the post discussing moore's new film, and about grounded flights after 9/11. This made me think, what happened to the people that had to land in Canada because they couldn't continue into the U.S. that morning. When those flights landed in Canada what happened to the passengers. What did the airlines do? Was anyone in the forums on one of the planes that landed in Canada?
 
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RE: Sept 11 Diversions

Sun Jun 27, 2004 2:33 pm

psgrs, for the most, stayed with the diverted flights. There was literally no way to get home unless you drove. There are hundreds of reports of Canadian families opening up there homes to the standed passengers. The Airlines waited until the government determined that it would be safe to launch airplanes again. This took several days.
 
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RE: Sept 11 Diversions

Sun Jun 27, 2004 2:34 pm

I know that in Newfoundland, local townspeople took many of the passengers in. Some passengers, mostly Americans were so taken by their generosity, that they have returned to visit sicne that fateful, and have even helped build a school.

I know in Vancouver, many stayed at the airport, or hotels, or were taken to school gymnasiums. There was a lot of misinformation, because we were told on the news that everyone had been taken care of, and then we heard that some people had no where to go. If we would have known that some passengers were stranded with no place to go, we would have gone to the airport, and found a place for them to stay.
 
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RE: Sept 11 Diversions

Sun Jun 27, 2004 2:44 pm

There has been several topics on this subject on this site, and if you do a search you can find a lot of information. Generally, flights from Europe that were closer to Canada than to Europe, were diverted into airports in the Atlantic proviences of Canada. There was an extraordinary response by the local, proviencial and Federal govenments of Canada as well as service organizations including the Red Cross, Salvation Army, service clubs. Schools and homes were opened up for stranded pax. Some pax were on the a/c's for 20+ hours until they could be removed due the huge volume and limited services. I am quite sure there are pictures on the pictures side of the site of the extrordinary situation of all the stranded a/c at these airports. As to Western Canada, Toronto, I do not know.
 
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RE: Sept 11 Diversions

Sun Jun 27, 2004 4:03 pm

A friend of mine who was working air traffic control that day in Ottawa told me that most of the diverted flights were sent to smaller cities. (Gander, Halifax etc on the east coast in particular) Due to uncertainty at the time, they dared not risk bringing those flights into major metropolitan cities such as Montreal, Ottawa and Toronto. There are some amazing pictures here of aircraft lined up on taixways and runways. Obviously, any and all passengers disembarking from aircraft would have had to have gone through customs and with such a huge volume of traffic in such a short period of time, its understandable that it took so long to clear these passengers. Under such extrordinary circumstances is when people open their hearts. Such a pity the qualities that exist in people isn't always evident all the time.

 
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RE: Sept 11 Diversions

Sun Jun 27, 2004 4:08 pm

Much the same thing happened in Europe as well. Dozens of airliners were stranded in the UK, Ireland and the Netherlands, and probably elsewhere as well (Iceland probably).

But what happened in Asia and south America? There's bound to have been aircraft stranded there yet noone talks about them.
 
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RE: Sept 11 Diversions

Sun Jun 27, 2004 5:41 pm

european/asian airspace was not closed so those diversion just refuelled and returned to where they started their journey.
 
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RE: Sept 11 Diversions

Sun Jun 27, 2004 6:10 pm

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RE: Sept 11 Diversions

Sun Jun 27, 2004 6:11 pm

I wonder what happened to the flights that were already in the middle of the Atlantic/Pacific....how were they supposed to land or where were they supposed to go? I can imagine the plane probably didnt have enough fuel to return to its orgin.

For example....Lets take a flight between HNL-LAX. If the aircraft was only like 2.5 hours from LAX coming in from HNL and they had to land immediately, what options are there?? Would they have to go to Mexico or go back to HNL?
 
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RE: Sept 11 Diversions

Mon Jun 28, 2004 6:42 am

A HNL-LAX flight certainly would have enough fuel turn return to HNL otherwise it shouldn't be in the air (and the crew concerned shouldn't hold licences!!). At 2.5 hours into it's flight, they're only around the halfway point.

A HNL-LAX flight could've gone either way Airframe, although turning back to HNL would've been the most sensible option due to all the security measures set up at LAX.

For any trans-oceanics, there are always planned alternates for every stage of the flight.  Smile
 
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RE: Sept 11 Diversions

Mon Jun 28, 2004 6:59 am

Interesting...the theoretical HNL-LAX would be a domestic flight so would diversions to other fields such as in Mexico and Canada be possible?

The passengers, if diverted to a Mexican airport, wouldn't necessarily be carrying a passport so would have to be kept in a sterile environment.

Not that this would/could/did happen but interesting to think about
 
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RE: Sept 11 Diversions

Mon Jun 28, 2004 7:09 am

Well since HNL airspace would be closed too and LAX but since it is a Domestic flight I would imagine ATC would just take them to which ever airport was closed LAX or LAX area airport or HNL but maybe they would take them to Maui instead of HNL and Ontario CA instead of HNL because of Safety reasons. Thats a good question.
 
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RE: Sept 11 Diversions

Mon Jun 28, 2004 7:22 am

Does anyone know, how did the Canadian authorities deal with those passengers who came from countries, which have to have visa? Did they have to stay in the "no man's land" area in terminals?
 
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RE: Sept 11 Diversions

Mon Jun 28, 2004 7:25 am

From what I can remember of the day, policy seemed to be to put down at the nearest US airport for domestic flights or those already inside the US airspace.

So I would have thought pushing on to LAX would be the best option over the halfway mark, but because of the distance and the flight being in international airspace would it have been diverted to outside the US?
 
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RE: Sept 11 Diversions

Mon Jun 28, 2004 11:01 am

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Thanks to all of my fellow countryman, especially on the East Coast who truly showed what being a Canadian is all about.

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RE: Sept 11 Diversions

Mon Jun 28, 2004 11:14 am

Sad day. I don't know about PIT, since I was in school. My 5th Grade classmates and teacher didn't know about it untill my teacher's friend, my math teacher in the other 5th Grade class, came in crying her head off saying, "CHANNEL 4, THIS IS TERRIBLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!" The kid closest got the remote, changed the channel, and we found smoke coming out of the WTC. Then the other plane, then all of the other stuff. Parents came one by one, picking up their kids. Mine didn't. It was so sad Crying  Crying  Crying
 
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RE: Sept 11 Diversions

Mon Jun 28, 2004 12:43 pm

I posted this once before, but here they are again:

TWA Diversions:

Flight Number To From Diverted to:
3 New York, NY (JFK) St. Louis, MO Dayton, OH
37 Orlando, FL St. Louis, MO Atlanta, GA
112 Tampa, FL St. Louis, MO Birmingham, AL
122 Houston, TX St. Louis, MO Memphis, TN
166 St. Louis, MO Washington, DC (CA / KDCA), USA - Virginia">DCA) Indianapolis, IN
192 St. Louis, MO Boston, MA Indianapolis, IN
230 Seattle, WA St. Louis, MO Spokane, WA
242 St. Louis, MO Pittsburgh, PA Columbus, OH
284 San Francisco, CA St. Louis, MO San Francisco
293 Baltimore, MD St. Louis, MO Cincinnati, OH
315 Norfolk, VA St. Louis, MO Raleigh/Durham, NC
324 St. Louis, MO Orlando, FL Macon, GA
372 St. Louis, MO Newark, NJ St. Louis, MO
410 St. Louis, MO Atlanta, GA Nashville, TN
422 Portland, OR St. Louis, MO Portland, OR
468 St. Louis, MO New York, NY (GA / KLGA), USA - New York">LGA) St. Louis, MO
469 Hartford, CT St. Louis, MO Pittsburgh, PA
488 Boston, MA St. Louis, MO Youngstown, OH
500 St. Louis, MO Baltimore, MD Louisville, KY
509 Washington, DC (IAD) St. Louis, MO Indianapolis, IN
538 St. Louis, MO Washington, DC (IAD) Cincinnati, OH
583 St. Louis, MO Los Angeles, CA Wichita, KS
596 Sacramento, CA St. Louis, MO Sacramento, CA
602 Wichita, KS St. Louis, MO Kansas City, MO
605 St. Louis, MO Houston, TX Fort Smith, AR
692 Minneapolis, MN St. Louis, MO Moline, IL
698 St. Louis, MO Tampa, FL Atlanta, GA
721 London, England (LGW) St. Louis, MO Moncton, New Brunswick
819 Paris, France (CDG) St. Louis, MO Gander, Newfoundland
885 New York, NY (JFK) Los Angeles, CA Columbus, OH
925 Paris, France (CDG) New York, NY (JFK) Halifax, Nova Scotia



AA Diversions:
Flight
Number From To Diverted To
578 Albuquerque, NM (ABQ) Chicago, O'Hare, IL (ORD) Wichita, KS (CT / KICT), USA - Kansas">ICT)
1277 Atlanta, GA (ATL) Dallas/Ft. Worth, TX (DFW) Little Rock, AR (LIT)
528 Austin, TX (AUS) Boston, MA (BOS) Dallas/Ft. Worth, TX (DFW)
565 Austin, TX (AUS) Los Angeles, CA (LAX) El Paso, TX (ELP)
1881 Austin, TX (AUS) San Jose, CA (SJC) Albuquerque, NM (ABQ)
23 Birmingham, UK (BHX) Chicago O'Hare, IL (ORD) Hamilton, Canada (YHM)
153 Boston, MA (BOS) Chicago O'Hare, IL (ORD) Toronto, Canada (YYZ)
1857 Boston, MA (BOS) Dallas/Ft. Worth, TX (DFW) Detroit, MI (DTW)
1663 Boston, MA (BOS) Dallas/Ft. Worth, TX (DFW) Memphis, TN (MEM)
269 Boston, MA (BOS) San Jose, CA (SJC) Chicago O'Hare, IL (ORD)
189 Boston, MA (BOS) Seattle, WA (SEA) Rochester, NY (ROC)
1359 Buffalo, NY (BUF) Dallas/Ft. Worth, TX (DFW) Little Rock, AR (LIT)
936 Caracas, Venezuela (MI), Venezuela">CCS) New York Kennedy, NY (JFK) Miami, FL (MIA)
554 Chicago O'Hare, IL (ORD) Boston, MA (BOS) Syracuse, NY (SYR)
2307 Chicago O'Hare, IL (ORD) Dallas/Ft. Worth, TX (DFW) Tulsa, OK (TUL)
1138 Chicago O'Hare, IL (ORD) Ft. Lauderdale, FL (FLL) Tampa, FL (TPA)
1099 Chicago O'Hare, IL (ORD) Los Angeles, CA (LAX) Denver, CO (DEN)
1455 Chicago O'Hare, IL (ORD) Los Angeles, CA (LAX) Denver, CO (DEN)
394 Chicago O'Hare, IL (ORD) New York LaGuardia, NY (GA / KLGA), USA - New York">LGA) Harrisburg, PA (MDT)
1462 Chicago O'Hare, IL (ORD) Newark, NJ (EWR) Syracuse, NY (SYR)
2069 Cincinnati, OH (CVG) Dallas/Ft. Worth, TX (DFW) Little Rock, AR (LIT)
683 Cleveland, OH (CLE) Dallas/Ft. Worth, TX (DFW) Little Rock, AR (LIT)
1008 Colorado Springs, CO (COS) Dallas/Ft. Worth, TX (DFW) Amarillo, TX (MA / KAMA), USA - Texas">AMA)
649 Colorado Springs, CO (COS) Los Angeles, CA (LAX) Las Vegas, NV (LAS)
1535 Columbus, OH (CMH) Dallas/Ft. Worth, TX (DFW) Little Rock, AR (LIT)
1060 Dallas/Ft. Worth, TX (DFW) Boston, MA (BOS) Akron, OH (CAK)
2326 Dallas/Ft. Worth, TX (DFW) Chicago O'Hare, IL (ORD) Kansas City, MO (MCI)
1074 Dallas/Ft. Worth, TX (DFW) Columbus, OH (CMH) Little Rock, AR (LIT)
1417 Dallas/Ft. Worth, TX (DFW) Las Vegas, NV (LAS) Lubbock, TX (LBB)
2401 Dallas/Ft. Worth, TX (DFW) Los Angeles, CA (LAX) Phoenix, AZ (PHX)
1424 Dallas/Ft. Worth, TX (DFW) Louisville, KY (SDF) Little Rock, AR (LIT)
1274 Dallas/Ft. Worth, TX (DFW) Miami, FL (MIA) New Orleans, LA (MSY)
1429 Dallas/Ft. Worth, TX (DFW) Minneapolis/St. Paul, MN (MSP) Tulsa, OK (TUL)
700 Dallas/Ft. Worth, TX (DFW) New York LaGuardia, NY (GA / KLGA), USA - New York">LGA) Raleigh/Durham, NC (RDU)
1048 Dallas/Ft. Worth, TX (DFW) Newark, NJ (EWR) Nashville, TN (BNA)
1222 Dallas/Ft. Worth, TX (DFW) Norfolk, VA (ORF) Little Rock, AR (LIT)
1750 Dallas/Ft. Worth, TX (DFW) Philadelphia, PA (PHL) Nashville, TN (BNA)
2443 Dallas/Ft. Worth, TX (DFW) San Jose, CA (SJC) Amarillo, TX (MA / KAMA), USA - Texas">AMA)
490 Dallas/Ft. Worth, TX (DFW) Toronto, Canada (YYZ) Tulsa, OK (TUL)
568 Dallas/Ft. Worth, TX (DFW) Washington Reagan, DC (CA / KDCA), USA - Virginia">DCA) Washington Dulles, DC (IAD)
1467 Denver, CO (DEN) Los Angeles, CA (LAX) Las Vegas, NV (LAS)
83 Frankfurt, Germany (AB) (FRA / FRF / EDDF), Germany">FRA) Chicago O'Hare, IL (ORD) Hamilton, Canada (YHM)
71 Frankfurt, Germany (AB) (FRA / FRF / EDDF), Germany">FRA) Dallas/Ft. Worth, TX (DFW) Toronto, Canada (YYC)
614 Ft. Lauderdale, FL (FLL) New York LaGuardia, NY (GA / KLGA), USA - New York">LGA) Washington Dulles, DC (IAD)
1873 Hartford, CT (BDL) Dallas/Ft. Worth, TX (DFW) Little Rock, AR (LIT)
617 Hartford, CT (BDL) Dallas/Ft. Worth, TX (DFW) Rochester, NY (ROC)
1342 Houston Hobby, TX (HOU) New York LaGuardia, NY (GA / KLGA), USA - New York">LGA) Nashville, TN (BNA)
1477 Houston Hobby, TX (HOU) Los Angeles, LA (LAX) San Antonio, TX (SAT)
1219 Indianapolis, IN (IND) Dallas/Ft. Worth, TX (DFW) Kansas City, MO (MCI)
2110 Lima, Peru (LIM) Miami, FL (MIA) Panama City, Panama (PTY)
51 London Gatwick, UK (LHR) Dallas/Ft. Worth, TX (DFW) Toronto, Canada (YYZ)
109 London Heathrow, UK (LHR) Boston, MA (BOS) Halifax, Canada (YHZ)
87 London Heathrow, UK (LHR) Chicago, O'Hare, IL (ORD) Goose Bay, Canada (YYR)
137 London Heathrow, UK (LHR) Los Angeles, CA (LAX) Calgary, Canada (YYC)
57 London Heathrow, UK (LHR) Miami, FL (MIA) St. Johns, Canada (YYT)
115 London Heathrow, UK (LHR) New York Kennedy, NY (JFK) Boston, MA (BOS)
101 London Heathrow, UK (LHR) New York Kennedy, NY (JFK) Gander, Canada (YQX)
105 London Heathrow, UK (LHR) New York Kennedy, NY (JFK) St. Johns, Canada (YYT)
69 Madrid, Spain (MD), Spain">MAD) Miami, FL (MIA) Bermuda, Bermuda (BDA)
55 Manchester, UK (MAN) Chicago O'Hare, IL (ORD) Goose Bay, Canada (YYR)
724 Maracaibo, Venezuela (MAR) Miami, FL (MIA) Montego Bay, Jamaica (MBJ)
2114 Mexico City, Mexico (MEX) Miami, FL (MIA) Cancun, Mexico (CUN)
913 Miami, FL (MIA) Bogota, Colombia (BOG) Panama City, Panama (PTY)
596 Miami, FL (MIA) Boston, MA (BOS) Atlantic City, NJ (ACY)
906 Miami, FL (MIA) Los Angeles, CA (LAX) Dallas/Ft. Worth, TX (DFW)
518 Miami, FL (MIA) New York Kennedy, NY (JFK) Raleigh/Durham, NC (RDU)
1132 Miami, FL (MIA) New York LaGuardia, NY (JFK) Raleigh/Durham, NC (RDU)
1246 Miami, FL (MIA) New York LaGuardia, NY (GA / KLGA), USA - New York">LGA) Washington Dulles, DC (IAD)
776 Miami, FL (MIA) Newark, NJ (EWR) Raleigh/Durham, NC (RDU)
880 Miami, FL (MIA) Philadelphia, PA (PHL) Norfolk, VA (ORF)
431 Miami, FL (MIA) San Francisco, CA (SFO) Austin, TX (AUS)
95 Milan, Italy (MXP) Chicago, O'Hare, IL (ORD) London Heathrow, UK (LHR)
744 Minneapolis/St. Paul, MN (MSP) Chicago O'Hare, IL (ORD) Madison, WI (MSN)
1096 Minneapolis/St. Paul, MN (MSP) Dallas/Ft. Worth, TX (DFW) Oklahoma City, OK (OKC)
387 Montreal, Canada (YUL) Dallas/Ft. Worth, TX (DFW) Little Rock, AR (LIT)
1033 Nashville, TN (BNA) Dallas/Ft. Worth, TX (DFW) Memphis, TN (MEM)
378 New Orleans, LA (MSY) Chicago O'Hare, IL (ORD) St. Louis, MO (STL)
1210 New York Kennedy, NY (JFK) Los Angeles, CA (LAX) Indianapolis, IN (IND)
201 New York Kennedy, NY (JFK) Los Angeles, CA (LAX) Kansas City, MO (MCI)
281 New York Kennedy, NY (JFK) San Diego, CA (SAN) Indianapolis, IN (IND)
59 New York Kennedy, NY (JFK) San Francisco, CA (SFO) St. Louis, MO (STL)
33 New York Kennedy, NY (JFK) San Jose, CA (SJC) Indianapolis, IN (IND)
265 New York Kennedy, NY (JFK) Seattle, WA (SEA) Toronto, Canada (YYZ)
311 New York LaGuardia, NY (GA / KLGA), USA - New York">LGA) Chicago O'Hare, IL (ORD) Detroit, MI (DTW)
2493 New York LaGuardia, NY (GA / KLGA), USA - New York">LGA) Dallas Love Field, TX (DAL) Memphis, TN (MEM)
1643 New York LaGuardia, NY (GA / KLGA), USA - New York">LGA) Houston Hobby, TX (HOU) Nashville, TN (BNA)
1005 New York LaGuardia, NY (GA / KLGA), USA - New York">LGA) Tampa, FL (TPA) Atlanta, GA (ATL)
483 Newark, NJ (EWR) Dallas/Ft. Worth, TX (DFW) Memphis, TN (MEM)
43 Newark, NJ (EWR) Los Angeles, CA (LAX) Cincinnati, OH (CVG)
2247 Orlando, FL (CO / KMCO), USA - Florida">MCO) Dallas/Ft. Worth, TX (DFW) Shreveport, LA (SHV)
158 Osaka, Japan (KIX) Dallas/Ft. Worth, TX (DFW) Vancouver, Canada (YVR)
976 Panama City, Panama (PTY) Miami, FL (MIA) Goma, Congo Dem Rep (GOM)
49 Paris Charles DeGaulle, France (CDG) Dallas/Ft. Worth, TX (DFW) Gander, Canada (YQX)
63 Paris Charles DeGaulle, France (CDG) Miami, FL (MIA) Gander, Canada (YQX)
45 Paris Charles DeGaulle, France (CDG) New York Kennedy, NY (JFK) Halifax, Canada (YHZ)
113 Paris Charles DeGaulle, France (CDG) San Jose, CA (SJC) Calgary, Canada (YYC)
1495 Philadelphia, PA (PHL) Dallas/Ft. Worth, TX (DFW) Little Rock, AR (LIT)
1023 Pittsburgh, PA (PIT) Dallas/Ft. Worth, TX (DFW) Memphis, TN (MEM)
1818 Port of Spain, Trinidad (POS) Miami, FA (MIA) San Juan, PR (SJU)
932 Quito, Ecuador (UIO) Miami, FA (MIA) Goma, Congo Dem Rep (GOM)
491 Richmond, VA (RIC) Dallas/Ft. Worth, TX (DFW) Little Rock, AR (LIT)
111 Rome, Italy (CO / LIRF), Italy">FCO) Chicago, O'Hare, IL (ORD) London Heathrow, UK (LHR)
1352 San Antonio, TX (SAT) Chicago, O'Hare, IL (ORD) Tulsa, OK (TUL)
1182 Santiago, Chile (SCL) Dallas/Ft. Worth, TX (DFW) Amarillo, TX (MA / KAMA), USA - Texas">AMA)
27 Seattle, WA (SEA) Los Angeles, CA (LAX) Little Rock, AR (LIT)
81 Stockholm, Sweden (ARN) Chicago O'Hare, IL (ORD) Montreal, Canada (YMX)
1440 Tampa, FL (TPA) Dallas/Ft. Worth, TX (DFW) New Orleans, LA (MSY)
54 Tokyo, Japan (AA), Japan">NRT) Chicago O'Hare, IL (ORD) Vancouver, Canada (YVR)
60 Tokyo, Japan (AA), Japan">NRT) Seattle, WA (SEA) Vancouver, Canada (YVR)
1431 Toronto, Canada (YYZ) Dallas/Ft. Worth, TX (DFW) Little Rock, AR (LIT)
1001 Tulsa, OK (TUL) Los Angeles, CA (LAX) Wichita, KS (CT / KICT), USA - Kansas">ICT)
1463 Washington Reagan, DC (CA / KDCA), USA - Virginia">DCA) Dallas/Ft. Worth, TX (DFW) Memphis, TN (MEM)
37 Zurich, Switzerland (ZRH) Dallas/Ft. Worth, TX (DFW) Montreal, Canada (YMX)


The flights listed below returned to their points of departure on Tuesday and will not continue today.

Flight
Number From To Diverted To
89 Brussels, Belgium (BRU) Chicago O'Hare, IL (ORD) Brussels, Belgium (BRU)
676 Calgary, Canada (YYC) Dallas/Ft. Worth, TX (DFW) Calgary, Canada (YYC)
2496 Dallas Love Field, TX (DAL) New York LaGuardia, NY (GA / KLGA), USA - New York">LGA) Dallas Love Field, TX (DAL)
306 Dallas/Ft. Worth, TX (DFW) Atlanta, GA (ATL) Dallas/Ft. Worth, TX (DFW)
644 Dallas/Ft. Worth, TX (DFW) Baltimore, MD (MI / KBMI), USA - Illinois">BMI) Dallas/Ft. Worth, TX (DFW)
1540 Dallas/Ft. Worth, TX (DFW) Boston, MA (BOS) Dallas/Ft. Worth, TX (DFW)
820 Dallas/Ft. Worth, TX (DFW) Charlotte, NC (CLT) Dallas/Ft. Worth, TX (DFW)
2042 Dallas/Ft. Worth, TX (
 
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RE: Sept 11 Diversions

Mon Jun 28, 2004 1:24 pm

I was on flight VS075 to Orlando on Sept.11th.
We diverted to Gander, Newfoundland and had to check-in as refugees !
We were taken to a Salvation Army camp, after eight hours on the tarmac !
The people of Gander took passengers into thier own homes. These people were stars, nothing less.
We stayed for 24 hours, then back to Manchester, the first back into Manchester and were mobbed by the vultutres of the press.
 
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RE: Sept 11 Diversions

Mon Jun 28, 2004 2:31 pm

I was looking through the AA diversions listed above and caught this one:

976 Panama City, Panama (PTY) Miami, FL (MIA) Goma, Congo Dem Rep (GOM)

How does the flight from Panama City to Miami wind up in Africa???????????????  Confused
 
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RE: Sept 11 Diversions

Mon Jun 28, 2004 5:34 pm

Glad to see my theoretical HNL-LAX flight was a very good question. My whole point was because there was no landing point midway between HNL-LAX how the diversion would be done and who would handle it. I guess its a gray area anyway. Thanks for the anwsers, guys!  Big thumbs up
 
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RE: Sept 11 Diversions

Mon Jun 28, 2004 5:36 pm

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Why would the C-5 in the foreground be diverted? Were non-essential military aircraft also grounded? Why would they not divert to a military airfield? I would also think that the aircraft have been parked in such a place as to enable it to depart at a moments notice if needed.
 
cx123
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RE: Sept 11 Diversions

Mon Jun 28, 2004 6:04 pm

So all the airport hotels must've bgine fully booked on that day??

Also were there any compensation to J and F Class passengers??
I want to know what happened to CX888 on that day. It would've made it to YVR but poosibly left YVR as well.
 
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RE: Sept 11 Diversions

Mon Jun 28, 2004 8:40 pm

Any stories of what explanations crews were given regarding the diversions... and what messages were relayed to the passengers?

I would have thought the FAA would have told every crew not to let anyone into the flight deck at any cost, but I don't think did.
 
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RE: Sept 11 Diversions

Mon Jun 28, 2004 10:44 pm

I remember Grand Rapids getting a NW 744 and and AC crj. There were a bunch of domestic flights too, but those were the international flights. GRR is an international airport, but apparently we only had one guy working for US customs at the time. Would these passengers all have to have cleared customs after finally getting off the plane?

~ Andrew Grayson
 
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RE: Sept 11 Diversions

Mon Jun 28, 2004 11:34 pm

I wasnt "diverted" but I was sitting on a AF 340 bound for ORD waiting for pushback when our fight got cancelled. I spent an extra 4 days in Paris with only 30 Francs in my pocket.

Such a long time ago.. Time flies when you are having fun.
 
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RE: Sept 11 Diversions

Tue Jun 29, 2004 10:37 am

There was a 1 hour program recently on PBS detailing what happened with passengers diverted to Newfoundland.

The hospitality extended to them was phenomenal. There were also scenes from aboard aircraft as the crew advised passengers what happened.

As for compensating passengers for the inconvenience of being stranded this situation falls under "act of war" and any compensation isn't required (although there may have been instances of some airlines or communities offering something). Remember, EVERYONE was stranded. Many people paid for rental cars to get home (my mother was in California and drove back to Florida in a car she rented with people she met at the airport).

I think there were some domestic US flights that were diverted to Canadian airports. I would imagine it was more important to get planes down quickly and safely. Passport problems probably weren't on the top of ATC's list of concerns on the morning of September 11.

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Military Aircraft Every type from fighters to helicopters from air forces around the globe

Classic Airliners Props and jets from the good old days

Flight Decks Views from inside the cockpit

Aircraft Cabins Passenger cabin shots showing seat arrangements as well as cargo aircraft interior

Cargo Aircraft Pictures of great freighter aircraft

Government Aircraft Aircraft flying government officials

Helicopters Our large helicopter section. Both military and civil versions

Blimps / Airships Everything from the Goodyear blimp to the Zeppelin

Night Photos Beautiful shots taken while the sun is below the horizon

Accidents Accident, incident and crash related photos

Air to Air Photos taken by airborne photographers of airborne aircraft

Special Paint Schemes Aircraft painted in beautiful and original liveries

Airport Overviews Airport overviews from the air or ground

Tails and Winglets Tail and Winglet closeups with beautiful airline logos