"I have heard this rumor as well with the Virgin order to be announced very shortly - heard the info from a rather reliable source (a real person, not in cyber world) who is usually right about these things. . .
Indeed, as have I. That's why I said I know VS
is interested in the 777. I have had a few different, reliable (not A.netters) tell me this. However, as you said, it is mostly a financial deal at this point, which means it can change in a matter of hours. Anyone remember ANZ's order of the A320?
"I heard 10 firm plus 10 options, with an additional 7 coming from leasing companies......the leasing company will place their order simultaneously and Virgin will be required to lease those 777s aer part of this bigger deal.
This makes a lot of sense with what I've been told. According to my sources, the order will place the -300ER fleet on 'equal or greater' footing with the A340-600 fleet. The fact that ILFC has publically stated they were talking to VS
about the -300ER is a good indicator they will be involved. If so, they virtually have
to place new orders, as they currently only have 6 free 777 spots left (all those being -200ERs).
" I also heard that this order is not very good news with respect to the future of A340 aircraft at Virigin
Although only one source told me this, he is the most reliable of them - at least the options, if not some of the firm orders, will be for -200ERs as well. These will eventually replace the A340-300 at VS
"Puts VS in a good position though. Every time they want new 773/346, they just need to get the two companies around and see who will go the lowest.
Very excellent point, Roberta
. Both companies need their respective aircraft to sell well, as they will eventually (and quickly) become the anchor for the respective entire lines. Therefore, these battles will only continue, whether at VS
"I'll believe it when I see it. This reminds me of the rumours surrounding Qatar Airways and the 777 about a year ago. There we also had 'very reliable' sources telling us QR was going to buy the 773ER, up until the day of the signing, when those 'reliable sources' all turned out to be wrong, and QR bought Airbus.
, the problem with the contest you just brought up, and one nobody has raised yet - IB
- is that both companies were
serious about getting the 777. Indeed, from what I understand, QR
is still considering operating the A340 and 777 side-by-side. And just like the present situation, both those orders came down to price. Will Boeing allow itself to be beat again? We'll see. . .
All gave some. Some gave all.