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The Widest Wide Body?

Thu Jul 15, 2004 10:46 am

Which wide body is the widest in terms of feet?

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RE: The Widest Wide Body?

Thu Jul 15, 2004 10:58 am

Are you asking in terms of cabin space or wingspan???
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RE: The Widest Wide Body?

Thu Jul 15, 2004 11:01 am

I'm sorry, that would be cabin space in terms of feet.
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RE: The Widest Wide Body?

Thu Jul 15, 2004 11:04 am

It will eventually be (widest to narrowest)-

1. Airbus A380
2. Boeing 747
3. Boeing 777
4. Boeing 7E7
5. Airbus A300/A310/A330/A340
6. McDonnel Douglas MD-11/DC-10
7. Lockheed L1011
8. Boeing 767
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RE: The Widest Wide Body?

Thu Jul 15, 2004 11:04 am

I believe that would be the Boeing 777. Somewhere around 19-20 feet.

If not, then it would be the mighty 747. It is very close in width to the 777. Within inches, I believe.
 
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RE: The Widest Wide Body?

Thu Jul 15, 2004 11:04 am

747 I suppose

A380 should be a bit wider
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RE: The Widest Wide Body?

Thu Jul 15, 2004 11:05 am

Of passenger airliners in service the winner is the 747, but that will change when the A380 enteres service. The widest cargo commercial aircraft would be the An-124/225 behemoths.
 
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RE: The Widest Wide Body?

Thu Jul 15, 2004 11:07 am

The 747 is still the King of the Widebodies...20 feet even from interior cabin wall to wall. However, when the A380 comes along, that aircraft will have an even wider cabin. Regards.
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RE: The Widest Wide Body?

Thu Jul 15, 2004 11:11 am

How wide is the An-225?
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RE: The Widest Wide Body?

Thu Jul 15, 2004 11:16 am

I don't know the exact figures, but I can see if I can find them in my literature. However, given that the An-225 is directly based off of the An124 and that machine was built to be the Russion C-5, and the C-5 is at least as wide as a 747, then I would say it is a good bet the An-124/225 is the widest cargo airliner in civillian use.
 
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RE: The Widest Wide Body?

Thu Jul 15, 2004 1:59 pm

The DC10 is narrower than the A300? Really?
 
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RE: The Widest Wide Body?

Thu Jul 15, 2004 2:08 pm

AN225 I gurantee it. Wingspan, Cabin Width, everything.
 
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RE: The Widest Wide Body?

Thu Jul 15, 2004 2:10 pm

The A300 family I dont believe is wider than the DC10/MD11/L10....Look...The most you ever see an A300 family is 2-4-2 in coach. The three holers are all usually 2-5-2 and some times 3-4-3.....so the three holers are wider....
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RE: The Widest Wide Body?

Fri Jul 16, 2004 12:47 am

I believe the proper "cabin width" ranking should be like this:

1. Airbus A380
2. Boeing 747
3. Boeing 777
4. McDonnel Douglas MD-11/DC-10
5. Lockheed L1011
6. Boeing 7E7
7. Airbus A300/A310/A330/A340
8. Boeing 767
 
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RE: The Widest Wide Body?

Fri Jul 16, 2004 2:27 am

TransSwede-

--Agreed. That is a good ranking of width
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RE: The Widest Wide Body?

Fri Jul 16, 2004 4:03 am

I knew the dimensions of the Antonovs at one time, but I'll have to look them up and repost them. The C-5, however, I've had memorized since H.S. Another words, before the drinking made such chores more unattainable...

Length is 247', wingspan 222', height 65'.

Cargo hold length is 121', width is 19' wide and 13' tall.

I'll get back with the An figures.

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RE: The Widest Wide Body?

Fri Jul 16, 2004 4:33 am

Okay, here we go.



Lockheed C-5

L - 247
W- 222
H- 65


Cargo


L - 121
W- 19
H - 13


An-225


L - 290
W- 275
H - 60

Cargo


L - 142
W- 21
H - 14

An-124


L - 240
W- 226
H - 68

Cargo


L - 118
W- 21
H - 14
 
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RE: The Widest Wide Body?

Fri Jul 16, 2004 6:16 am

From the book "Giant Jetliners," cabin width of wide-bodies goes like this for a/c currently in production.

1. 747
2. 777
3. L1011 TriStar
4. DC-10/MD-11
5. A300/310/330/340
6. 767

Not sure about A380 and 7E7 but my guess is A380 at #1 and 7E7 right above the 767.

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RE: The Widest Wide Body?

Fri Jul 16, 2004 6:22 am

Let me do another question...

Same one but with narrowbodies! I guess it could be the A320, or the 757 (does the cabin of a 757 match the 737's?)
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RE: The Widest Wide Body?

Fri Jul 16, 2004 7:59 am

707, 720, 727, 737, and 757 all have the same cabin width. The A320 family has the widest cabin of the narrow bodies, and Airbus continually toutes this as a superior feature to the 737, nevermind that the difference is not noticable to passengers.

The rankings:

A320 family (3-3)
Boeing narrows except 717 (3-3)
DC-9 (including 717), 1-11, Caravelle (3-2 or 2-3)
Concorde, CRJs, Embraer 170 family, ATP, Avro RJs/Bae 146 (2-2)
ERJs, Saabs, EMB-120, Jetstream 31/41 (2-1 or 1-2)
Fairchild Metro, B1900 (1-1)
 
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RE: The Widest Wide Body?

Fri Jul 16, 2004 8:04 am

Actually the Avro RJs/Bae 146 is 2-3 or 3-2. Not as wide as the MD's but wider than the CRJ.

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RE: The Widest Wide Body?

Fri Jul 16, 2004 8:08 am

Frugalqxna, aren't Avros & Bae 146s usually in a 2x3 or 3x3 config?



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RE: The Widest Wide Body?

Fri Jul 16, 2004 8:22 am

Is the 7E7s width the same as the 767s?
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RE: The Widest Wide Body?

Fri Jul 16, 2004 8:39 am

RE: JeckPDX

Jeck you are correct, looking at the internal specs on all

1)747= 20.1 feet
2)777= 19.3 feet
3)L1011= 18.11 feet
4)DC-10/MD-11= 18.9 feet
5)A300/310/330/340= 17.4 feet
6)767= 15.6 feet

These are the internal widths of the cabins from MFG specs.
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RE: The Widest Wide Body?

Fri Jul 16, 2004 9:34 am

The configuration of the Avros, as with any airliner, is mostly dependent on the airline. However, from what I have read, the RJ70(146-100) was originally 3-3, but the RJ85(146-200) and RJ100(146-300) are usually configured 2-3. Since most(?) Avros are 2-3, I put them with the 1-11 and DC-9s.

BTW, looks like I was wrong about the C-5 being wider than the 747, oops.
 
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RE: The Widest Wide Body?

Fri Jul 16, 2004 1:53 pm

Here are the specs on the Avro/BAE 146 vs the others

Internal cabin widths:

Boeing Narrow bodies (737,727,757)= 11.7 feet
Avro/146= 11.1 feet
MD-80/DC-9= 10.1 feet

The Avro is 1 foot wider internally than the MD-80 and only 6 inch less than the boeing narrowbodies therefore 3-3 is permittable on it. unlike the MD-80.
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RE: The Widest Wide Body?

Fri Jul 16, 2004 3:35 pm

I used to hear conflicting rumors about the boeing singles...visably, the 757 stands out from the rest of the singles, and it must be "deeper" cause it's cargo hold has a higher vertical height...in addition to this , I've heard the 757 is 3" wider than the 727s, 737s, 707s???? someone please clarify!
 
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RE: The Widest Wide Body?

Fri Jul 16, 2004 4:13 pm

If we are only talking about passenger aircraft, everyone who says "correct" to the above specs is actually wrong.

The Il-96-300 and Il-86 both have interior cabin widths of 5.7m = 18.70 feet. They both have an actual fuselage width of 6.08m.

So both aircraft are at least 17cm (half a foot) wider than the L-1011.

If this book "Giant Jetliners" doesn't include both the Il-86 and Il-96-300, I suggest you throw it in the bin, coz it isn't worth the paper it is printed on.
 
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RE: The Widest Wide Body?

Fri Jul 16, 2004 4:29 pm

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RE: The Widest Wide Body?

Sat Jul 17, 2004 1:00 am

Hey Russo when we use the .4 after the foot number we mean inches

for instance L1011= 18.11 it is 11 inches, 1 inch shy of 19 feet.

Your right ILL-86/96 are 5.66m across internally which is 18 feet 7 inches.

Lets do it in meters "Internally":

747= 6.13m or 20ft 1 inch
777= 5.81m or 19ft 3 inches
L1011= 5.77m or 18ft 11 inches
DC-10/MD-11= 5.72m or 18ft 9 inches
ILL 86/96= 5.66m or 18ft 7 inches
A300/10,30,40= 5.28m or 17ft 4 inches
767= 4.72m or 15ft 6 inches

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RE: The Widest Wide Body?

Sat Jul 17, 2004 1:43 am

Will the A380 be wider than the 747?
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RE: The Widest Wide Body?

Sat Jul 17, 2004 2:04 am

Not to be Euroannoying here, but how about writing 18'11" for 18 feet 11 inches and 18.11 for 18 point 11 (11 hundredths) feet.
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RE: The Widest Wide Body?

Sat Jul 17, 2004 4:03 am

I didnt specify at the end inches(in) Starlion, busy working at the same time. Its cleared up now.
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RE: The Widest Wide Body?

Sat Jul 17, 2004 4:15 am

I used to hear conflicting rumors about the boeing singles...visably, the 757 stands out from the rest of the singles, and it must be "deeper" cause it's cargo hold has a higher vertical height...in addition to this , I've heard the 757 is 3" wider than the 727s, 737s, 707s???? someone please clarify!

All Boeing narrowbodies (except the 717) share the same upper lobe, i.e. outer mold lines and basic structural depth. There are three (maybe 4)lower lobes. The 707 has one, the 727 has two different ones (fore and aft of the wing), the 737 has another, and the 757 has its own unique lower lobe. Since the width at the floor is the same for all four types the maximum width of the lower lobe is identical, they differ in depth only.

The cabin width of the 747 is dictated by the fact that it was designed to carry two 8'x8' containers abreast on the main deck, with a passageway.
 
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RE: The Widest Wide Body?

Sat Jul 17, 2004 4:59 am

Why not write it in meters, centimeters, millimeters??
1000 meters= 1 km
1 mile = 1,600 meters or 1,6 km´s
1 mil = 10 km´s

Guess the majority in here writes in m, cm, mm, km  Smile/happy/getting dizzy
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RE: The Widest Wide Body?

Sat Jul 17, 2004 5:30 am

If inches are the norm in a country, let them use the things. Write what you are comfortable with. I often try to write the alternate unit in parentheses. And there's always http://www.onlineconversion.com/length.htm.
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