Obviously many here have missed the contributions of the Irish posters, none of whom have alluded to anything even remotely resembling some crazed nationalistic "no way EI
Put simply, the vast majority of us here don't give a toss who buys EI
as long as said carrier does not simply a) use EI
's slots at it's home airport for itself b) close down large parts of EI
's newly expanded network to feed it's own hub, thereby cutting us off from the world again. That goes for BA
.. whoever.. them being British has absolutely nothing to do with it. Sure, there are some here who would have the idea that we should not sell EI
to the British, but they are very much in the minority I would say! Our two countries enjoy quite a good relationship these days I feel, and we've all moved from the bad old days. And to those from other parts of the world who dont believe me, well... you dont live here, so you dont know!
As for not seeing the shamrock on the planes anymore, we all know Willie Walsh will replace it with a big red dot some day soon, so it's really not an issue..
To try to bring some balance to this thread (and i'm noting here that it was contributors from outside Ireland who first mentioned nationalistic sentiment and "bad feeling" towards the UK.. something in that perhaps guys??) lets look at the pro's and con's of a BA
/EI tie up from EI
's point of view
's transatlantic network in order to hub UK regional traffic through Dublin as an alternative to Heathrow, thus alleviating the congestion at the latter
's lower cost base to open new routes Ex UK that would perhaps not be profitable given BA
's higher costs.
3) Economies of scale are achieved in aircraft aquisition, ground handling etc (though, the benefits to a huge airline like BA
does a "citiflyer" and renders most of EI
's network unprofitable due higher cost base and management structure
purely for it's slots at Heathrow, winding the carrier down and cherry picking it's best routes ex DUB
while hubbing the rest at LHR
. Access to Ireland now greatly disadvantaged.
as a "low cost engine" initially, but does a "go" and sells it to another low cost airline
There's 3 points from each side to start the ball rolling, so that perhaps we can have a proper conversation without need of recourse to slagging off the paddies, and dragging any more outdated stereotypes out into what could be quite an imformative thread.
Now, for my final point (I know i've dragged on perhaps bored some of you to tears...
many have made the point that AF
/KL style mergers are the way to go. I agree, but there of course will be exceptions to that rule. Does an island with a low population, but an economy heavily dependant on the outside world and foreign markets qualify as an exception?
Another point, AF
/KL was more a merger of equals in terms of size of the airlines. EI
/BA would certainly not be. Those kind of mergers do not have such a good track record for the smaller partner as BA
's own aquisitions prove, but perhaps this one could be different? Let the debate begin... (and no more drunken crazed paddy crap, please!)