Not to sound like a conspiracy theorist or anything, but the debris field (scattered for miles)
An aircraft crashing into the ground at 500 miles an hour wouldn't have debris flying for many miles? C'mon!!!
Anyway is seems the government prefers to lie to maintain "public order" and due to the high patriotism of this great country, everyone wants (forces) to believe in the lie...
you call my patriotism a way of supporting a lying government? How DARE
you accuse the consumate professionals at the NTSB of lying to cover something up.
You asshole! I am so offended by your comment it's not even funny. I am insulted in the highest order.
Do government officials lie? Yes. But can they cover something like this up when the lowest-levels are involved? Time and again events have proven they cannot.
Of course anyone cares to know if our vice-preseident ordered a figher to shot a civilian aircraft.
Yes, and it's quite clear he gave
that order, but that it was already too late.
It is obvious that you, like some of my friends at WestConn, are so vehemently anit-government, anit-Bush, or anti-American that you can't see past your own prejudice. I am not going to respond to any more of your posts.
You're forgetting one thing: A missile striking an engine will dislodge pieces moving at hundreds of miles an hour and spinning at high speeds. In addition, it would weaken the structure of the wing, causing it to fall off during descent, sending the aircraft into a spin that would cause it to cartwheel across the landscape.
Instead, the aircraft crashed nearly intact and a few parts flew off upon impact.
One more thing... I don't agree with the guy who claims the pax were killed "just because they were Americans". That's shortsighted and way too candid. This whole issue has roots a lot deeper and complex than most people seem to realize. What's more, such a statement constitutes a very dangerous prejudice that can easily become a justification for an equally reidiculous retaliation.
AND... Yet one more thing. "Americans", whether anybody likes it or not, are all of us who live and share the whole continent, from Alaska to Tierra del Fuego. Yep, Argentinos, Peruanos, Mexicanos, Canadians, and the people living in the U.S.A. are all, by our own right, "americanos". Got it? (That's what happens when people fell asleep in Geography 101 or haven't read "Sociology for Dummies" )
Right on both counts. However, they chose a civilian target, which is unacceptable in both Western and Islamic tradition. So, we're back to "they just killed 'em because they were 'Americans.'"
(did you know the quarrels between the forebears of modern-day Palestinians and Israelis have been going on for about 4,500 years?)
While there was certainly anymosity between the city-dwelling "heathens" and the nomadic Hebrews going back for several millenia, even before the Egyptians carved out the Valley of the Kings and before any city was built on the mound of Troy, possibly even before the first Pyramids and Ziggurats, to say that modern-day Palestinians and Jews anymosity is related is... Well, it's stretching the truth more than just a bit.
you can't ignore the cause and effect relationship of Western foreign policy dating back to ummm...the crusades?
The US didn't fight the Crusades. Catholic Europe did. Why weren't they
Before oil and Isreal, US involvement in the middle east was limited mostly to the Barabary Corsairs and the creation of the vairious modern states of the Arab world following WWI.
If they're still angry about the crusades, then maybe my statement a few weeks back about the US being the "biggest target" and that being the reason for all the terrorist attacks is correct. We represent the military, financial, and industrial power of the world, so we're THE big target that everyone wants to take down. Before us it was the Brits, before that the French, etc...
Bottomline: it takes two to tango. We westerners keep on doing our part on this, it'll be a never-ending story.
And if we don't respond (ref: USS Cole, Kobhar Towers, etc), we embolden them.
Not even the US, but Israel itself gave millions to the Palestinians, what did they do with that money? .. no schools to show for it, no social improvents whatsoever. Only weapons
I've been saying this for years! $183,000,000 a year in aid to the PLO, and yet they live in abject poverty. Doesn't sound like enough money to you? Well, to put it in economic-equivalents, $183,000,000 of aid to Palestine is like $4,000,000,000,000 in aid the the US, or $2,500,000,000 in aid to the EU.
Clinton sided with the muslims in the Balkans (when the local people wanted to get rid of them),
You almost made it onto my RUL, but with that comment... We are talking about mass-genocide, here (though not on the level of Iraq's Basrah area!).
On a side note, I notice that no Europeans hated Clinton for taking care of that
little problem... Could it be that because Balkan Muslims look white, it's acceptable to help them, but because Iraqi Muslims look semetic, it's not acceptable to help them?
Or is it just that you hate our president because he's a Conservative Christian Republican, and Slick Willy wasn't?
The airframe was intact as it crashed into the ocean. In that case, we can see that a missile strike on a commercial airliner wouldn't necessarily destroy the airframe, especially if they used a heat seeking missile and it struck the engine.
And the missile you're talking about used a 40kg explosive warhead that, with a direct hit, would have simply blown the engine off the aircraft and probably part of the wing. The more likely indirect hit would simply send shrapnel into the aircraft, causing catastrphoic damage to various parts of the plane.
In the case of this (9/11) aircraft, we're talking about the AIM-9L, which uses a 20.8lb warhead and would cause significantly less damage but, since it is more accurate, would be more likely to score a direct hit and set fire to vaporizing fuel, causing a massive explosion that could be seen for miles around.
And, of course, the 747 is a much larger aircraft than a 757.
Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it in summer school.