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Ryanair's Interiors

Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2004 10:21 pm
by AirframeAS
Ok I just got to ask this:

Whats with this Ryanair interior:


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Something strikes me odd about the headrests. Seems like its a safety card printed on them. Is this a normal procedure on Ryanair and other European airlines? Ive never seen anything like this before on any U.S. carrier at all. Does Ryanair even have safety cards or am I looking at it?

Any thoughts are welcomed....

RE: Ryanair's Interiors

Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2004 10:24 pm
by Scorpio
Those ARE the safety cards. Ryanair recently decided to no longer offer real 'safety cards', but to stick 'em to the back of the seats, so that people could no longer take them from the plane. It's yet another cost cutting measure, decided around the same time FR decided to no longer have window shades on their new planes.

AFAIK, FR is the only airline that has their safety cards stuck to the seats.

RE: Ryanair's Interiors

Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2004 10:44 pm
by AirframeAS
Thanks for clearing that up. If I flew on Ryanair, it would be an eyesore sight for me. I dont think I want to see a safety card 'staring' at me throughout the entire flight! LOL!

RE: Ryanair's Interiors

Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2004 10:45 pm
by teva
In the same very new and modern aircraft, Ryanair's innovations are that you cannot recline the seat and you cannot close the window.
Teva

RE: Ryanair's Interiors

Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2004 11:57 pm
by Greg
I'm pretty sure the larger issue with the safety cards was to eliminate the seat back pocket---therefore not having to retreive garbage from it on turnarounds...everyone would be hailing that as brilliant if WN thought of it first (of course, WN has an inflight magazine which is quite a revenue producer for them...so don't expect it soon on Southwest).

Not sure why they did away with the window shades and the reclining seats....that seems a bit strange....

RE: Ryanair's Interiors

Posted: Sun Aug 01, 2004 12:21 am
by SafetyDude
Those are indeed safety cards! I believe that only a few Ryanair planes have that interior, and it is certainly not a standard amongst LCCs or European airlines. If you would like to know more, I suggest doing a search, as this was the quite the topic of debate when we first heard about it.

 Smile
-Will

RE: Ryanair's Interiors

Posted: Sun Aug 01, 2004 3:51 am
by CKT523
This is indeed a cost cutting measure by FR, and what a great one it is too. FR has a network that means their longest routes are only a couple of hours away, and those who fly FR are looking to get from A to B in the cheapest and most convenient way. If you had the chance to fly from STN - FR), Portugal">FAO or something like that (no smart ass comments about them not flying there or something) for £30 rtn, why on earth would you care about a window blind or a reclining seat? If you want luxury, fly BA, low cost= no frills.

You dont get a window blind on older Virgin trains or National Express (similar to Greyhound for our US friends!) and it cost ten times more sometimes for a Virgin train journey than an FR flight!

RE: Ryanair's Interiors

Posted: Sun Aug 01, 2004 3:59 am
by 777236ER
Not sure why they did away with the window shades and the reclining seats....that seems a bit strange....

No windows shades to buy, cheaper seats!

Look at it this way, I bet more people read it.

RE: Ryanair's Interiors

Posted: Sun Aug 01, 2004 4:25 am
by kl911
'''In the same very new and modern aircraft, Ryanair's innovations are that you cannot recline the seat and you cannot close the window.
Teva'''

WHO wants to close the windows and recline the seats if the flights are under 2 hours, often under 1 hour, and you pay 0.99 cents per one-way? sometimes people here surprise me, the cheaper a flight becomes, the more they want.....

IF YOU DON'T LIKE A EUROPEAN FLIGHT FOR 0.99 CENTS, DON'T FLY RYANAIR!!!

( I've never paid more than 10 euro's for a flight on FR, just book on time, and don't forget it's a leisure airline, not a business one....

RE: Ryanair's Interiors

Posted: Sun Aug 01, 2004 5:07 am
by Hirnie
Everything mentioned about the seat above is true. But those seats are very uncomfortable, even for a flight shorter than two hours. If you pay more than 15 Euros for a flight, for me it`s not worth doing the trip with this LCC.
I did some flights with Ryanair and everything going on there was more a party above clouds and had little to do anything with safety. Perhaps my flights were exceptions, I only tell you what I experienced...


RE: Ryanair's Interiors

Posted: Sun Aug 01, 2004 5:11 am
by SafetyDude
This is indeed a cost cutting measure by FR, and what a great one it is too. FR has a network that means their longest routes are only a couple of hours away, and those who fly FR are looking to get from A to B in the cheapest and most convenient way. If you had the chance to fly from STN - FR), Portugal">FR), Portugal">FAO or something like that (no smart ass comments about them not flying there or something) for £30 rtn, why on earth would you care about a window blind or a reclining seat? If you want luxury, fly BA, low cost= no frills.
Oh, so safety cards are a luxury?  Wink/being sarcastic

-Will

RE: Ryanair's Interiors

Posted: Sun Aug 01, 2004 5:20 am
Two options: a safety card in a pocket or a safety card on the back of a seat. I would bet 100 dollars that more people read the card if it was attached to the back of a seat because it would be more noticeable and almost at eye-level (I await the 'I would not pay so much attention to it' speeches). Don't bother arguing that those afraid of flying would be horrified at seeing all the procedures in the event of a crash, for they comprise a very small minority and they'd surely prefer to know exactly what to do (having studied the card) should the plane crash. AND the withdrawal of the seat pockets results in lower costs for FR. Best of both worlds, eh?

RE: Ryanair's Interiors

Posted: Sun Aug 01, 2004 5:23 am
by kl911
'''Oh, so safety cards are a luxury?

-Will'''



No, read good! Ryanair has the safetycards on the back of the headrests, so nobody can steal them, and nobody has an excuse for not reading them. What would be safer then that? A safetycard in front of you for 2 hours.... So, if anything happens it's there for everyone! I wish everybody would adopt that idea!

RE: Ryanair's Interiors

Posted: Sun Aug 01, 2004 5:30 am
"Ryanair has the safetycards on the back of the headrests, so nobody can steal them, and nobody has an excuse for not reading them. What would be safer then that? A safetycard in front of you for 2 hours.... So, if anything happens it's there for everyone! I wish everybody would adopt that idea!"

About time someone else had the same opinion as me on the subject.

RE: Ryanair's Interiors

Posted: Sun Aug 01, 2004 5:33 am
by flumuc
I'm pretty sure the larger issue with the safety cards was to eliminate the seat back pocket---therefore not having to retreive garbage from it on turnarounds...

Did FR put those nice air sickness bags into the seat pockets before? If
there´s no pocket now, they can not put those bags anywhere. What
happens if someone needs one? It won´t be a quick turnaround at the next
airport, I think... Insane  Big grin

RE: Ryanair's Interiors

Posted: Sun Aug 01, 2004 5:41 am
by SafetyDude
Don't bother arguing that those afraid of flying would be horrified at seeing all the procedures in the event of a crash, for they comprise a very small minority and they'd surely prefer to know exactly what to do (having studied the card) should the plane crash.
"Those afriad [sic] of flying"? I do not want a safety card in front of me for a flight of any length.

No, read good! Ryanair has the safetycards on the back of the headrests, so nobody can steal them, and nobody has an excuse for not reading them. What would be safer then that? A safetycard in front of you for 2 hours.... So, if anything happens it's there for everyone! I wish everybody would adopt that idea!
I guess you did not understand the " Wink/being sarcastic". I agree, Ryanair has a great idea, and yet no other airline has adopted it!  Insane

-Will

RE: Ryanair's Interiors

Posted: Sun Aug 01, 2004 5:45 am
" do not want a safety card in front of me for a flight of any length."

Ah well, at least you'd look at it more - and perhaps know EXACTLY what to do should your plane crash.

"Ryanair has a great idea, and yet no other airline has adopted it!"

But all the so-called traditional airlines were VERY SLOW to rationalise their operations when low-cost carriers began to grow rapidly, hence their current problems. The 'legacy' carriers tend to be slow to adapt to new things - which is not to say that they won't.

RE: Ryanair's Interiors

Posted: Sun Aug 01, 2004 5:59 am
by SafetyDude
Ah well, at least you'd look at it more - and perhaps know EXACTLY what to do should your plane crash.
Put me on any plane and I can tell everything about the emergency exits, as well as emergency procedures.

Chances are that after a while, most passengers would accept the safety card as part of the interior and skip over it.

But all the so-called traditional airlines were VERY SLOW to rationalise their operations when low-cost carriers began to grow rapidly, hence their current problems. The 'legacy' carriers tend to be slow to adapt to new things - which is not to say that they won't.
Cutting down and limiting operations is a bit different than having a safety card in the seat pocket or on the headrest.

Perhaps the reason that the safety cards are on the headrests is because seat pockets were eliminated and they had to something with the safety card.

 Smile
-Will

RE: Ryanair's Interiors

Posted: Sun Aug 01, 2004 6:37 am
by kl911
Will,

Sorry, but I think the safetycards there are very efficient. No seat pocket is also very efficient. DO people really think they can fly for 0.99 cents and expect all kind of luxery? Ryanair gave us the chance to fly every weekend for nothing, so just expect to GET nothing, except for getting from A to B on time with friendly service. On a flight less then 2 or 3 hours, what do you need? Wake up and start enjoying life! If not, pay 10x more on a 'normal' carrier and enjoy your seat pocket!

RE: Ryanair's Interiors

Posted: Sun Aug 01, 2004 7:00 am
by caravelle
This is indeed a cost cutting measure by FR, and a great one it is too, and those who fly FR are looking to get from A to B in the cheapest and most convenient way.

Getting from A to B? What you do is start from A, go by bus, go to B, depart, land at C, go to X( by bus), depart from X (by bus), go to C, FR willing, flight arrives B on time (so they say), and then go to A (by bus).

And from A (your home) to B (the airport) is at least two hours, and from your destination to your hotel, it's bound to be another two... At least.

Boring, isn't it?
The sad, sad story of FR....

- caravelle

RE: Ryanair's Interiors

Posted: Sun Aug 01, 2004 7:46 am
You, like many others, wrongly believe that everyone flying FR will want to go to the nearest big city - but they will not. That is why FR flies to 15 places in Italy, a number of places in France, a growing number of places in Spain. FR can be extremely convenient, for if I wanted to fly from London to, say, Sardina, I could fly into either Alghero or Cagliari, saving myself time from having to connect elsewhere and, very probably, money. Or if I wanted to do a car tour of northern Italy and Switzerland, it would be more convenient and very probably cheaper for me to fly into Bergamo. So please do not assume that all passengers will want to travel to the nearest big city - they will not. I hope you realise that the age of independent exploration beyond the big cities is now here, another reason why FR flies to so many places within countries.

[Edited 2004-08-01 00:48:11]

RE: Ryanair's Interiors

Posted: Sun Aug 01, 2004 9:08 am
by kl911
Caravelle,

Why would I like to land in a big city? I hope you can read, and if so you can read in the previous posts that Ryanair is a leisure airline, people like me spend their holiday on a camping in the nature or at the beach, both are not available normally at big cities. Ofcourse you are mister rich guy who hate campings, but Ryanair is for the people! Guess you have to find another 'exclusive ' toy to play with.......

RE: Ryanair's Interiors

Posted: Sun Aug 01, 2004 8:22 pm
by A340600
f you had the chance to fly from STN - FR), Portugal">FR), Portugal">FAO or something like that (no smart ass comments about them not flying there or something) for £30 rtn, why on earth would you care about a window blind or a reclining seat? If you want luxury, fly BA, low cost= no frills

Actually just fly EasyJet. You get reclining seats and window blinds, nice interiors and almost brand new planes (if flying from LGW). I got £30 return to AMS in March, booking two weeks in advance! I didn't expect much but they exceeded any expectations. If you can't put up with FR then fly EZY (if you can), legroom aint half bad either and im 5ft. 11inch.

Cheers

Sam Big thumbs up

Ryanair's Safety Cards

Posted: Sun Aug 01, 2004 9:15 pm
by DouglasDC10
I just had the chance to fly Easyjet and Ryanair within a couple of hours (LBC-STN-AMS). My FR aircraft was also one of the newer ones with safety cards sticked on the back of the seats. It was not really comfortable, but for an one hour flight it was OK. EZY was more comfortable, but with higher fares. And punctuality speaks in favor of FR...

I agree with KL911. Why should I pay more for a safety card or an inch of more legroom for a short flight? I prefer to spend the money I saved on another FR flight.

RE: Ryanair's Interiors

Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2004 4:37 am
by by188b
Here we go again,

Hardly any of the seats on FR go for 0.99!!

Ryanair ticket prices can be very expensive if you dont have the luxury of buying far far in advance

RE: Ryanair's Interiors

Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2004 7:36 am
"Hardly any of the seats on FR go for 0.99!!"

Actually, if you subscribe to FR's emailing service and get notice of its special offers quickly, you can find many 99p offers. I frequently do!

[Edited 2004-08-02 00:38:15]

RE: Ryanair's Interiors

Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2004 9:42 pm
by northernlights
Here is a link to an interesting article that answers a lot of questions in this topic!!! It is an extract of an interview Ryanair's Michael O'Leary gave to an Irish paper.
It appeared today (02aug04) on the website www.eircom.net  Big thumbs up

http://home.eircom.net/content/unison/national/3711125?view=Eircomnet

RE: Ryanair's Interiors

Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2004 9:48 pm
by JGPH1A
Re If you had the chance to fly from STN - F AO

Actually, it would be Stansted - Faro South (Algiers)  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

RE: Ryanair's Interiors

Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2004 11:37 pm
by Skymonster
Not much point in giving passengers any information about how to evacuate the aircraft if the cabin crew haven't been trained how to open the armed doors, or aren't able to open them!!!

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/newspaper/0,,170-1199379,00.html

Ryanair - what wasters!

Andy

RE: Ryanair's Interiors

Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2004 11:47 pm
by ltbewr
To me the placement of the emergency instructions on the back of the seat isn't a problem or annoying, but those hidious yellow/gold covers, that's another story  Big grin

RE: Ryanair's Interiors

Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2004 11:58 pm
by lapper
Did FR put those nice air sickness bags into the seat pockets before? If
there´s no pocket now, they can not put those bags anywhere. What
happens if someone needs one?


No, you need to ask an F/A for one if you feel the need to barf, then try and hold it in til they return!

RE: Ryanair's Interiors

Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2004 1:50 am
by SafetyDude
Sorry, but I think the safetycards there are very efficient. No seat pocket is also very efficient. DO people really think they can fly for 0.99 cents and expect all kind of luxery? Ryanair gave us the chance to fly every weekend for nothing, so just expect to GET nothing, except for getting from A to B on time with friendly service. On a flight less then 2 or 3 hours, what do you need? Wake up and start enjoying life! If not, pay 10x more on a 'normal' carrier and enjoy your seat pocket!
I was only talking about safety cards. Do understand that not having to look at a safety card right in front of you is not exactly a luxury.  Insane

-Will

RE: Ryanair's Interiors

Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2004 2:08 am
by ei2ksea
Just to add, the reclining seats were replaced in newly delivered aircraft with non-reclining seats as the company found excessive breakages and maintenance issues were experienced as a result of the reclining feature. They are easier to break basically.

Regards
Ph