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RE: American Kicks Off Passenger With Rude T-shirt

Tue Aug 03, 2004 4:19 am

You are right about that. However would it be acceptable or moralistic if a gay person were to walk on that plane with a tshirt that had a guy flashing his penis, would you be happy about that?

That's not the issue. The issue is who decides who can fly. Is it the agent? In that case, the agent's morals become the morals of the airline. If the agent is homophobic, gay people will be kicked off flights. If the agent is racist, black people will be kicked off. If the agent is a prude, people with 'rude' t-shirts will be kick off. Airlines need dress codes, they shouldn't leave it up to individuals to decide what is appropriate.
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RE: American Kicks Off Passenger With Rude T-shirt

Tue Aug 03, 2004 4:20 am

how about deletion of this topic..its getting old.
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RE: American Kicks Off Passenger With Rude T-shirt

Tue Aug 03, 2004 4:23 am

That's not the issue. The issue is who decides who can fly. Is it the agent? In that case, the agent's morals become the morals of the airline.

777236ER, companies have standards and teach those standards to their staff. If employees stray from those standards, they'll likely get canned. So it all works out.
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RE: American Kicks Off Passenger With Rude T-shirt

Tue Aug 03, 2004 4:28 am

For the record, I'm willing to bet Southwest would have denied boarding to this passenger too.
It is more than just about the choice of clothing here.
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RE: American Kicks Off Passenger With Rude T-shirt

Tue Aug 03, 2004 4:38 am

At last! This case has nothing to do with puritanical or morals. The question is not about how the rejected passengers felt, or if the AA agent did the right thing, but more about just common respect for other passengers. I don't want to see a boob or F_ _ _ on t-shirts in public places where children are around.

Passengers can wear whatever they want at home, but a plane is a public place and as such, a place where personal limits apply.

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RE: American Kicks Off Passenger With Rude T-shirt

Tue Aug 03, 2004 4:43 am

Freedom of speech can go too far at time! I am glad they got kicked off!
 
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RE: American Kicks Off Passenger With Rude T-shirt

Tue Aug 03, 2004 4:44 am

Yes they do have responsibilty for safety and welfare of passengers but it gives them no title to hassle your ass just because they don't like your t-shirt. Obscene t-shirt indeed breached the safety of all onboard!

I call it crew morale, for one.

Also, why not allow crew to concentrate on their work rather than on passengers who simply feel they have the need to turn all eyes onto them.

Appease them or they'll certainly displease you.

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RE: American Kicks Off Passenger With Rude T-shirt

Tue Aug 03, 2004 4:46 am

No one has yet answered WHY a breast is inappropriate, or even words like fuck.
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RE: American Kicks Off Passenger With Rude T-shirt

Tue Aug 03, 2004 4:48 am

Some people just need to grow up.

Then, AN225, why don't people like you address that question to the jackass who showed up wearing a shirt that offends people?

Why don't people like you stop attacking those of use who have halfway decent standards of morals, look at your own, and then perhaps address your comments to those who act like jerks, and not those who have to put up with such jerks?

Morals are subjective.

And some people have none, that is obvious on here.
 
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RE: American Kicks Off Passenger With Rude T-shirt

Tue Aug 03, 2004 4:50 am

No one has yet answered WHY a breast is inappropriate, or even words like fuck.

A breast is inappropriate in public because it is indecent and can be regarded sexually. Words like fuck are also inappropriate to use in public because it offends those who do not swear and infringes on public civility. I swear in public sometimes but barely noticeable. Since you seem to have a hard time understanding, I take it that you would let your girlfriend (assuming you've had one) walk around topless and say "fuck" at the top of her voice?
 
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RE: American Kicks Off Passenger With Rude T-shirt

Tue Aug 03, 2004 4:52 am

...why not allow crew to concentrate on their work rather than on passengers...

My words Sleak, she has more important things to do than to censor passengers wardrobe.
 
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RE: American Kicks Off Passenger With Rude T-shirt

Tue Aug 03, 2004 4:57 am

That's a pretty lofty assumption, Mdsh00.

Swearing in public is something we have all done, doesn't mean we need to be proud of it. Wearing a T-shirt with a profanity on it is childish at best, and something people would wear for no other reason than to get a rise out of someone else. Such is the now famous AA breast issue. This person tried it, had the opportunity to wear something more appropriate FOR A PUBLIC PLACE and refused. AA didn't have her arrested or ridicule her. Instead they simply denied boarding - good for them. I wouldn't have been sorry to see her leave my airplane. And I like boobs.
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RE: American Kicks Off Passenger With Rude T-shirt

Tue Aug 03, 2004 5:04 am

Swearing in public is something we have all done, doesn't mean we need to be proud of it.

I am in complete agreement with you. I am not proud of having swore in public. But my point was that whenever I have, it was always under my breath. I can't stand it when there are people behind me walking down the street talking and swearing loudly. I was trying to make a point with 777236ER sine he thinks its perfectly normal and okay to show breasts and swear. Even tho I dont personally mind it too much. I agree with AA 100% on this...these days, there are a lot of smartasses around that think they are exempt from any kind of rules. There is a time and place for everything...
 
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RE: American Kicks Off Passenger With Rude T-shirt

Tue Aug 03, 2004 5:05 am

You know, it is not a matter of whether it was offensive or not, but it is a thing of just plain decency. Sure, he can wear it, but why should I have to look at it?
 
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RE: American Kicks Off Passenger With Rude T-shirt

Tue Aug 03, 2004 5:05 am

A breast is inappropriate in public because it is indecent and can be regarded sexually.

A tongue and a finger can be regarded sexually.

Words like fuck are also inappropriate to use in public because it offends those who do not swear and infringes on public civility

But why are swear words indecent?
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RE: American Kicks Off Passenger With Rude T-shirt

Tue Aug 03, 2004 5:06 am

"Why shouldn't a gate agent deny boarding to a black person if they think a black person travelling with white folk is immoral?"

Am I the only one here that sees a difference between this and wearing a thong on a plane?
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RE: American Kicks Off Passenger With Rude T-shirt

Tue Aug 03, 2004 5:07 am

Displaying the word 'fuck' on a shirt isn't inappropriate to you? Maybe they do things different over there...
 
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RE: American Kicks Off Passenger With Rude T-shirt

Tue Aug 03, 2004 5:11 am

But why are swear words indecent?

Okay, why don't you go somewhere...anywhere in Britain and try doing it. Walk into a restaurant and say "can I get a f***ing menu?" so that everyone can hear.

People who swear understand that it isnt decent to do it in public. Why don't you get it? Do you swear in front of your parents?
 
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RE: American Kicks Off Passenger With Rude T-shirt

Tue Aug 03, 2004 5:13 am

The point is, the shirt should not have been worn in public. Common sense. Would you want your child, mother, grand mother sitting next to someone for a few hours who asserts his "right" to watch porn videos on his DVD?

I'm tired of protecting stupid people. Let the stupid be responsible for their own actions.

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RE: American Kicks Off Passenger With Rude T-shirt

Tue Aug 03, 2004 5:20 am

That's not the issue. The issue is who decides who can fly. Is it the agent? In that case, the agent's morals become the morals of the airline. If the agent is homophobic, gay people will be kicked off flights. If the agent is racist, black people will be kicked off. If the agent is a prude, people with 'rude' t-shirts will be kick off. Airlines need dress codes, they shouldn't leave it up to individuals to decide what is appropriate.
If you honestly cannot tell the difference and believe that airline workers can do things accordingly to what they like and dislike, well, I have no clue what to say.  Insane

"Why shouldn't a gate agent deny boarding to a black person if they think a black person travelling with white folk is immoral?"

Am I the only one here that sees a difference between this and wearing a thong on a plane?

I was wondering about that as well. I make two!

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RE: American Kicks Off Passenger With Rude T-shirt

Tue Aug 03, 2004 5:24 am

Kind of reminds me of the big outrage after Janet Jackson's superbowl stunt...

Anyrate, as a red blodded American citizen I agree with those who think AA took this issue to far. Boobs are just part of life, if the weren't meant to be God wouldn't have stuck them on womens' chest.

If the guy on the flight wants to display a cartoon boob, I say go for it, its his shirt and his right to state his views through the art on his clothing.
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RE: American Kicks Off Passenger With Rude T-shirt

Tue Aug 03, 2004 5:29 am

Am I the only one here that sees a difference between this and wearing a thong on a plane?

Both are immoral in the eyes of some.

Displaying the word 'fuck' on a shirt isn't inappropriate to you? Maybe they do things different over there...

But WHY is it inappropriate?!

People who swear understand that it isnt decent to do it in public. Why don't you get it? Do you swear in front of your parents?

But WHY is it indecent?
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RE: American Kicks Off Passenger With Rude T-shirt

Tue Aug 03, 2004 5:36 am

she has more important things to do than to censor passengers wardrobe.

L410.. I still say that crew have the right to work without any unnecessary distractions. He should have known that his t-shirt would be distracting at one point or another. People have the common sense to know that that shirt at a rock concert would be a much more suitable place than onboard a flight with some female crew. Women deserve the respect and if they felt that his shirt was inappropriate or offensive, then he should at least respect their opinion and change it inside-out.

It has nothing to do with freedom of speech as much as it has to do with common respect. I doubt he would have been happy should the crew simply went on the PA system and made a mockery out him. He wouldn't appreciate that disrespect, just like the crew didn't appreciate his. When on-board, you are on their turf and pax have to understand that if something is dsitraction to them, then he should change that distraction accordingly.

Another possible reason for their reaction might have been the fact that his flight originated from Miami (his connecting airport).

Florida is the retirement state. Miami along with nearby Ft. Lauderdale, W Palm Beach, etc. do have many people aged 65+ living there and could have been on the flight. Maybe crew's reaction to talk to him was also due to those elderly people's reactions. One must think of others onboard rather than his sole right to express his desire to show off a picture of breasts.
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RE: American Kicks Off Passenger With Rude T-shirt

Tue Aug 03, 2004 5:46 am

777236ER,
Quit being so wierd and try telling a restaurant to f%&k off. The word for centuries has been associated as an insult. Just like there are nice words, there are also not so nice words. How old are you? If you are hitting at something deeper- please enlighten us instead of taking this thing thread down a strange path.

BTW, If an agent denied boarding to a black person based on their race, they would be violating AA company policy and would be diciplined or (more likely) fired. In this case, the person was adhering to company policy.

What if some (equally stupid) person got angry at the people for wearing the inappropriate boob shirt in front of his kids and started a fight on the plane?
 
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RE: American Kicks Off Passenger With Rude T-shirt

Tue Aug 03, 2004 5:47 am

But why are swear words indecent?

Okay, why don't you go somewhere...anywhere in Britain and try doing it. Walk into a restaurant and say "can I get a f***ing menu?" so that everyone can hear.


That's too funny Mdsh00! I'd like to see 777236 try that a few times! Then see what kind of service he gets (if not jailtime!).

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RE: American Kicks Off Passenger With Rude T-shirt

Tue Aug 03, 2004 5:48 am

777236ER,

A tongue and a finger can be regarded sexually.

Sorry, but your comparison is not on-par with breasts.

1.Finger can be used to scratch a back - innocently.
2.Tongue can be used by kids to show disrespect.
3.Tongue can be also be used around the mouth - innocently - to clean it out.

Breasts, on the other hand, cannot be used to:

1. Scratch innocently (not in public anyway), nor
2. Nor can they be used by kids to show disrepect..
3. And I wont use the last example 3 (above), as im sure many here will start using their imagination to tell me otherwise.  Big grin

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RE: American Kicks Off Passenger With Rude T-shirt

Tue Aug 03, 2004 5:53 am

Sorry to disappoint our European friends, but a sizable number of Americans believe in the idea represented in the following quotation:

"A vitiated state of morals, a corrupted public conscience, is incompatible with freedom. No free government, or the blessings of liberty, can be preserved to any people but by a firm adherence to justice, moderation, temperance, frugality, and virtue; and by a frequent recurrence to fundamental principles." --Patrick Henry

So please, I'd really live to hear how tolerance of using the word "fuck" makes you a more civilized person, rather than taking the time to figure out a better euphemism for your problem.
 
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RE: American Kicks Off Passenger With Rude T-shirt

Tue Aug 03, 2004 5:57 am

As an American Captain on a US airline I can tell you that it is my responsibility for making sure the attire of our passengers meets a standard of common decency.

This is a laughable statement. Gotta hand it to ya, pal: This isnt the 60's, 70's or the 80's anymore where travel was once a luxury!! So who cares! The majority of americans dress casual, not formal attire. I have never heard of a captain kickin' off someone because of the way people dress. Hell, I've checked in pax who wore some really nasty things if you ask me.

As for the topic at hand:
To sum up the AA incident to freedom of speech is sort of like a catch-22 type thing if you know what I mean..... You have the right to say anything you want but it comes with a price/consequence..... I'll let you figure out the rest...
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RE: American Kicks Off Passenger With Rude T-shirt

Tue Aug 03, 2004 5:58 am

Sorry, but your comparison is not on-par with breasts.

1.Finger can be used to scratch a back - innocently.
2.Tongue can be used by kids to show disrespect.
3.Tongue can be also be used around the mouth - innocently - to clean it out.

Breasts, on the other hand, cannot be used to:

1. Scratch innocently (not in public anyway), nor
2. Nor can they be used by kids to show disrepect..
3. And I wont use the last example 3 (above), as im sure many here will start using their imagination to tell me otherwise.

Fingers can be used to insult, poke and used sexually. Breasts are used to feed babies.

The word for centuries has been associated as an insult. Just like there are nice words, there are also not so nice words. How old are you? If you are hitting at something deeper- please enlighten us instead of taking this thing thread down a strange path.

So why is it such a bad word?

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RE: American Kicks Off Passenger With Rude T-shirt

Tue Aug 03, 2004 6:03 am

Sleak,
if AA wanted to enforce this extreme Ashcroft-style interpretation of their Conditions of Carriage, they should've turn him away at the gate or check-in not half-way through his trip.
Kick him off the plane was inadequate, however it would have some rationale behind it if the fa acted upon some passengers' objection, if it was her deliberate action then I insist it's not her job description to evaluate print on pax's t-shirt, is it?
There's no argument about wearing this stuff being stupid, but it still is not reason to be kicked off the plane. I think it only sets a dangerous precedent.
 
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RE: American Kicks Off Passenger With Rude T-shirt

Tue Aug 03, 2004 6:16 am

Fingers can be used to insult, poke and used sexually. Breasts are used to feed babies.

Are you deliberately trying to be annoying?

So why is it such a bad word?

I'm serious...why don't you go try it out and report back here with the response you got from people.

It is as simple as society setting rules on itself. By your logic it is okay for people to have sex in public as long as they are reproducing.
 
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RE: American Kicks Off Passenger With Rude T-shirt

Tue Aug 03, 2004 6:21 am

Just so you know something about Americans. At a summer camp that I know of, the origins of the word "F---" is taught to all children who attend. So when they hear that word they will not be horrified and frightened. It comes from the English bobbies who wrote summonses to prostitutes, For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge. Tired of writing so many summonses, they shortened it to F--K.

Still, just as some people do not want to hear that word in their company, and around their families, AA does not want that type of clothing displayed on their airplanes, lest they get the reputation that they will accept just about any kind of behavior. I agree with the airline, as much as I like b-----s.
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RE: American Kicks Off Passenger With Rude T-shirt

Tue Aug 03, 2004 6:37 am

777236ER, it all starts with the functions these parts perform for us and carries over from there. Fornicating, defacating, and urinating are considered things you do in private. All three in public are usually illegal in most modern societies. Just as most of us have a certain expectation of privacy from other people seeing us do these things, we also have expectations of privacy from seeing other people do these things. Why is this? I would hazard to guess that modesty is human nature. As for simple nudity, the modesty expected from those tasks carry over to the parts that perform them. We still have an expectation of privacy to and from these parts, although it is slightly less (most people would rather see someone's ass than someone shitting in the park). To go a step even further, the clothing that covers these parts (underwear, bra, jock-strap, etc.) also have a residual degree of modesty attached to them although it is much more watered down to the point where it is acceptable on television.

The word 'fuck'; that's easy. That word is one of the many profane expletives used in the English langauge. Profane expletives are used to show contempt and disrespect toward strangers and because of this, they are offensive. How did that phonetic sound become one of those words? I think I read it was an acronym for Fornicating Under Consent of King or something like that, but that's turned out to be horseshit.
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RE: American Kicks Off Passenger With Rude T-shirt

Tue Aug 03, 2004 6:45 am

No offence to our American friends but no doubt if the t-shirt depicted a blood soaked gun massacre it would be allowed for fear of offending the gun lobby! But a breast is not allowed.
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RE: American Kicks Off Passenger With Rude T-shirt

Tue Aug 03, 2004 6:51 am

Boysteve:

Give me a break. What exactly do you base your comment on, actual expereince here in the states? If someone had boarded an AA aircraft with the t-shirt you describe they would have been thrown off just as fast. Maybe it's you that needs to "GROW UP" because I would not expect an adult to say something so ignorant.
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RE: American Kicks Off Passenger With Rude T-shirt

Tue Aug 03, 2004 6:52 am

t-shirt depicted a blood soaked gun massacre it would be allowed for fear of offending the gun lobby! But a breast is not allowed.

No offense but that is a stereotypical view of Americans and would illicit the same reactions. People wear these types of shirts to get some kind of reaction. I DOUBT that they wear them thinking that nobody will care what is on their shirt. They wanted attention and that is what they got.
 
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Tue Aug 03, 2004 6:52 am

i dont understand america, whats up with you americans? You give guns to children , so whats so bad about a t-shirt with Chebs on them? Will you guuys be banning F.C.U.K. from your planes from now on? Get a grip people!
 
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RE: American Kicks Off Passenger With Rude T-shirt

Tue Aug 03, 2004 6:56 am

It is quite common at U.S. amusement parks to be forbidden to wear t-shirts that have rude or vulger words. For instance, you can't wear shirts at many parks that have the words, f**k or s**t.

But you can't even wear a shirt that says "Big Johnson", because that is an rude comment about large male appendages, even if one is tall, heavy, and named Johnson.

My wife's workplace does not allow sweatshirts, t-shirts, or polo-style shirts that have words, even if the words are the name of the clothing designer, say Polo, or a college, like Harvard.
 
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RE: American Kicks Off Passenger With Rude T-shirt

Tue Aug 03, 2004 6:56 am

777236ER

Fingers can be used to insult, poke and used sexually. Breasts are used to feed babies.

Ummm... apparently you havent got my point the first time. Wanna try re-reading? Will do your post replies a world of good.

MDsh00 - I think he simply can't help it. Hence his replies. But would love to see him take up on that offer earlier of going to a restaurant and cursing for a menu. Heck, what would be even better is him going to a Pub and cursing the bar tender for a drink. That would make for a great hit - literally. And I think, only then, will he be able to answer his only continious answer of 'whats wrong with that?'.

L410,

There's no argument about wearing this stuff being stupid, but it still is not reason to be kicked off the plane. I think it only sets a dangerous precedent

I agree with you on most points except the above. What I truley believe to set off a dangerous precedent is the day passengers get to think they are allowed to disregard comments and instructions from crew (be it cabin or deck). We need to understand that their sole purpose onboard is not to serve us meals. Their main reason onboard is for our safety. We need to understand that we cannot just do what we like. Just like he paid his ticket, 200 others have also paid for theirs. Is it not fair to expect a normal t-shirt to be worn just like everyone else, and keep his 'boob' shirt for a rock concert instead?

Afterall, crew have the right to feel just as comfortable with us, as we expect to be comfortable with them.

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Tue Aug 03, 2004 6:56 am

i dont understand america, whats up with you americans?

Nothing is up with us. The only one that needs to get a grip is you with your over the top generalizations. The breast is not the issue. It is a passenger who was being defiant afterbeing requested to change the shirt or turn it inside out.
 
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Tue Aug 03, 2004 6:57 am

Severair:

Read my reply to boysteve.
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Tue Aug 03, 2004 7:01 am

LMP737
Yes I do base my view on what i have actually seen in the states. I was totally shocked by the disgust at the breast 'accident' at the superbowl played out on the US media when i was there at the time. I have visited your nation many times and totally fail to understand why any kind of subtle nudity is generally frowned upon whereas gross violence is accepted by the media and played out. You might not like my comments but i stand by them
 
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RE: American Kicks Off Passenger With Rude T-shirt

Tue Aug 03, 2004 7:06 am

HAHA... a boob...  Smile
 
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RE: American Kicks Off Passenger With Rude T-shirt

Tue Aug 03, 2004 7:13 am

Where are the pictures? I need pictures of the t-shirt in order to make an informed opinion  Big grin.

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RE: American Kicks Off Passenger With Rude T-shirt

Tue Aug 03, 2004 7:17 am

Boysteve:

So you have been to the states a couple times and that makes you an expert on what goes on here? I don't think so. You have nothing to back up your comment on who will or will not be thrown off an AA flight.

Since I work for the airline in question I can tell you that if someone shows up a t-shirt depicting a "blood soaked gun massacre" they will be thrown off the flight. And I SERIOUSLY doubt that the flight crew will be concerned with the "gun lobby".

A little side note, I also doubt that the "gun lobby" would ever endorse and t-shirt showing a "blood soaked gun massacre".
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RE: American Kicks Off Passenger With Rude T-shirt

Tue Aug 03, 2004 7:22 am

He said "boob". Hehe ngnghehee...
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RE: American Kicks Off Passenger With Rude T-shirt

Tue Aug 03, 2004 7:43 am

WOW All this over two people who obviously have no common sense.

I have read the many posts to this thread. I originally wasn't going to reply to it but when I saw the range of subjects included in the posts I had to put my two cents in. So here it is.

I never thought that this was a political discussion, what does George W. Bush have to do with this. Other than the fact that he is the current President and people just like to disrespect him. You don't see any Bush fans poking fun at John Kerry here. "I by the way will be voting in this years election and I will be voting for George W. Bush" That ends the political discussion.

More to the point now.

Two people are traveling by air. One is wearing a potentially offensive T-Shirt. Obviously this person has no regard for other peoples feelings. Personally my wife and I are pretty progressive and open minded when it comes to nudity, and sex. She is English and I lived in Europe for several years. European views are much different than Americans but they still have common decency and respect for others. There is however a time and a place for everything. Unfortunately the closed environment of an aircraft is not the appropriate time or place for such displays. I don't even believe that it is the appropriate place for a conversation about politics, religion or war or any display thereof.

The issue for AA is plain old common decency and courtesy towards others. This couple obviously did not have that in mind when he made the decision to wear the shirt nor did he when he refused to change or turn it inside out. AA Acted well within their rights as a PRIVATE AIR CARRIER and denied the passenger boarding for not complying with the crews request. AA Even gave the couple a refund for their flight.

I myself have been in situations that required me to ask a passenger to change clothes or wash up a bit before I allowed him to board my aircraft. The passengers in my case did not have a problem changing and or cleaning up a bit. Most people would not.

SO there you have it. My two cents, well maybe four cents. I hope I have not Offended anyone on this board thus prompting the removal of my membership and denial for further access. I only hope that if that happens I get a full refund for my First Class Membership. Until then have fun and Keep flying.

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RE: American Kicks Off Passenger With Rude T-shirt

Tue Aug 03, 2004 10:07 pm

i dont understand america, whats up with you americans? You give guns to children , so whats so bad about a t-shirt with Chebs on them?

Oh please. What does lax gun laws have to do with inappropriate clothing? Nothing. This is a case about common decency.
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