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Airbus 380 Configuration

Fri Aug 20, 2004 10:04 pm

I have been reading some discussions on the 380 passenger configurations, mainly how many passengers will it carry. I know that Airbus during the design phase of the aircraft would poll the major airlines for input on their requirements and try and represent these in the aircrafts design. However if you look at the early marketing material and mockups at major airshows, Airbus had shops, cinemas, gyms etc.... How much say do the major airlines have in the cabin layout? Also could it be possible for Virgin as an example to have a single coach/economy layout and stuff it to the gills with 700 passengers and offer very cheap transalantic flights?
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RE: Airbus 380 Configuration

Fri Aug 20, 2004 10:27 pm

I would say each airline has TOTAL say over configuration. If Emirates decides to configure its A380s in entirely luxury configuration with 200 seats and a restaurant, cinema, gym, bar, discotheque, swimming pool, sauna, creche and brothel that is its own business. I would say some of the wealthier airlines will go down that route (well, part of it anyway). Most will decide on a compromise. It's interesting that no Japanese airline has ordered the aircraft (maybe Japanese industry is too tied to Boeing) as surely they would just LOVE to squeeze 700 passengers in the way they did similarly with the 747 for their high-density domestic routes

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RE: Airbus 380 Configuration

Fri Aug 20, 2004 10:42 pm

700 pax would not currently be feasible because the flying slug will only be certified for 555 pax to start with. In the future is anybody's guess.
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RE: Airbus 380 Configuration

Sat Aug 21, 2004 12:21 am

The A380s will ultimately be stuffed with as many seats as possible. The mix between luxury and economy seating will vary by carrier, but "common areas" will be limited. The U.S. Domestic airlines experimented with passenger "lounges" on jumbos during a period of declining traffic in the early seventies when they replaced some seating with lounges. The airlines found that the common areas didn't work then as they caused problems during boarding, couldn't be utilized when passengers were restricted to their seats, and that additional movement by passengers about the cabin to access lounge areas interfered with food/beverage service. Does anyone know how much time on average, on flights of 3 hours or more, the passengers are restricted to their seats during takeoff/climbout, food service, rough weather/air conditions, approach/landing as a percentage of total flight time?
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RE: Airbus 380 Configuration

Sat Aug 21, 2004 3:11 am

I have to agree with Leelaw. I remeber how the 747 was going to have a piano lounge etc.... I haven't found an airline yet that hasn't filled up their planes with as many revenue seats as possible. I guess they figure things like restaurants, lounges, and such are best left to trains and boats.
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RE: Airbus 380 Configuration

Sat Aug 21, 2004 3:59 am

At the rear of the upper level....a spacious area that allows for a luxurious lounge, or a conference room, or two private state rooms. There is certainly room for any number of out-of-the ordinary passenger features. A separate cinema or additional state rooms.

1968 Pan American brochure.

Well, we all know what happened. Oh, the upper deck lounge lasted for a while, and AA had the Piano Bar as well, but in the long run it is seat revenue that counts.

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