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Delta Announcement Now Playing; Listen Here Free!

Wed Sep 08, 2004 9:34 pm

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Can't wait to hear what they say! ...replays will be available for a month.

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RE: Delta Announcement Now Playing; Listen Here Free!

Wed Sep 08, 2004 9:41 pm

....thusfar, just Grandpa Grinny rambling in a manner to make you wanna smack 'im  Insane


Hope it gets better than this!
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RE: Delta Announcement Now Playing; Listen Here Free!

Wed Sep 08, 2004 9:44 pm

Um.... not quite sure the point of a live interview if you're just going to release it in writing ahead of time.  Yeah sure





Anywho:

Delta Air Lines Outlines Transformation Plan
Wednesday September 8, 8:36 am ET
'Simplified, more efficient' airline designed to improve the customer traveling experience while delivering significant savings
Profit sharing planned in the face of additional job losses, pay cuts and benefit reductions


ATLANTA, Sept. 8 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- Delta Air Lines' (NYSE: DAL - News) top executive today outlined key elements of the company's transformation plan intended to launch "the right airline for the new era" by improving its customers' traveling experience while simultaneously targeting more than $5 billion in annual cash savings by 2006. The company is on track to deliver by the end of this year through its previously announced Profit Improvement Initiatives (PII) approximately $2.3 billion of the total savings target.
CEO Gerald Grinstein, in remarks to employees, described the top-to-bottom overhaul as a "comprehensive, 360-degree plan that reinvents Delta."

The plan calls for over 51 percent of the company's network to be restructured by January 31, 2005, resulting in "the largest single-day schedule transformation in Delta's history," along with improvements to its product and services, network and fleet, and operational efficiencies and productivity immediately and over the next 36 months, Grinstein said.

In announcing that a simpler, more efficient airline would mean fewer jobs and reductions in pay and benefits throughout the company, the CEO also reaffirmed his commitment to providing meaningful opportunities for employees to share in the company's future success.

Key initiatives include:

Updating and upgrading customer products and services, including cabins and online functionality, and maintaining two-class service in mainline operations;
Redesigning Atlanta's hub operation to add more flights for greater customer choice and reliability while simultaneously reducing congestion;
Dehubbing Delta's Dallas/Ft. Worth operation and re-deploying those assets to grow hub operations in Atlanta, Cincinnati and Salt Lake City
;
Adding 31 new nonstop flights to 19 additional destinations from key focus cities;
Growing Song, initially by 12 aircraft; -- Reducing fleet complexity by retiring at least four fleet types in
four years
and increasing overall fleet utilization and efficiency;

Eliminating 6,000-7,000 jobs over the next 18 months, lowering management overhead costs by 15 percent, and reducing pay and benefits; and
Creating an Employee Reward Program to include equity, profit sharing and performance-based incentive payouts.

The company has stated that as a result of the rapid deterioration of its financial condition due to low yields, high fuel prices, its uncompetitive labor costs, and its high debt burden, coupled with a possible operational disruption from anticipated pilot early retirements, bankruptcy is a real possibility. "We're working hard and fast to avoid it," Grinstein said, "but if the pilot early retirement issue is not resolved before the end of the month, or if all of the pieces don't come together in the near term, we will have to restructure through the courts."

Grinstein said four strategic cornerstones guided his new leadership team's intensive strategic assessment process that produced the transformation plan. Referred to as Delta's "ACES," these key principles are to Achieve viability, Create a customer-focused culture, Excel in operational performance and Sustain profitable growth.

"The permanently changed aviation marketplace and Delta's unsustainable financial losses confirm that our survival requires a viable cost structure. At the same time, increasing competition dictates that Delta's success depends on customer satisfaction, which in turn requires both operational excellence and motivated employees," Grinstein said of the company's four-pronged approach.

Achieve Viability

As the result of its PII launched in 2002, the company is "on track" to deliver a total of $2.3 billion in annual cash savings by the end of this year, as compared to 2002. Together, the key initiatives announced today, the requested $1 billion in pilot savings, a significant expansion of PII and contributions from other stakeholders, such as lessors, lenders and vendors are intended to deliver the additional savings needed to reach the 2006 goal of more than $5 billion in annual cash savings.

Delta's expanded PII will include reductions in organizational overhead as well as employee-related costs, product and network changes, increased technology and improved operational efficiencies.

Create a Customer-Focused Culture

To create a customer-focused culture, Grinstein said Delta is "recommitting to its heritage" by listening to its customers and delivering what they want: simplicity, comfort and style, flexibility and reliability, and a great experience, all at a great value.

"Our recently announced SimpliFares(TM) in Cincinnati illustrate what we mean by simplicity," Grinstein explained. "We're making our SkyMiles loyalty program easier to understand and awards simpler to redeem, especially through delta.com, and continuing to find new ways to provide passenger-friendly, self-service technologies. We are going to take the fine print out of the way we do business to make it easier for customers to do business with us," he declared.

As part of these technology improvements, Delta will increase by 15 the number of cities with kiosk check-in capabilities, and expand its services offered through the delta.com website. The company plans to introduce capabilities to allow customers to find lower fares and obtain refunds and reissues online. Delta's goal is to migrate 50 percent of its customer transactions to delta.com.

In addition to maintaining two classes of service, upgraded and updated cabins, with features such as leather seats with more comfort and better lighting, will be phased in over the next 18 months to offer more inviting interiors. The first MD-88 with the new interiors will begin flying by the middle of this month.

"Importantly, we've built in cost savings to help pay for these improvements," he noted.

Greater flexibility for the customer will be accomplished by offering more flights and better schedules. "To get our customers where they want to go, when they want to go, we will aggressively compete in our key hubs and cities and invest and grow where there is the greatest demand," Grinstein said.

"It's all about customizing our network and fleet to meet the customers' different needs," he added. The Delta Solution provides customers the benefits of strengthened hubs and focus cities and increased point-to-point flying, in part, by:

-- Redesigning Delta's primary hub at Atlanta's Hartsfield-Jackson
International Airport to add more flights than any airline has ever
flown from any one city, while at the same time reducing congestion;
-- Growing Cincinnati and Salt Lake by re-deploying aircraft currently
used at Dallas/Ft. Worth; and
-- Adding 31 new nonstop flights to 19 additional destinations from its
focus cities of Boston; New York-JFK; Columbus, Ohio; and Ft.
Lauderdale, Orlando and Tampa, Florida.


"Difficult decisions had to be made," the CEO added when explaining that in order to afford the expansion and pursuit of new opportunities, the company needed to dehub its Dallas/Ft. Worth operation and discontinue all service to Amarillo and Lubbock, Texas. "A commanding market presence is critical," Grinstein asserted, "and we didn't have it in Dallas." The dehubbing of Dallas/Ft. Worth will help the company retain and build a strong, competitive pattern of service in Atlanta, Cincinnati and Salt Lake City.

Delta anticipates that it will record accounting charges in connection with the decision to dehub Dallas/Ft. Worth, the amount and timing of which have not been finalized.

Other strategic network changes central to the company's larger transformation include growing Song initially by adding 12 aircraft to its current fleet of 36 beginning in the late Spring of 2005, increasing seasonal domestic service, capitalizing on alliance partnerships and expanding international destinations. In addition, Delta plans to simplify its fleet by retiring at least four fleet types in four years, while increasing aircraft utilization through more efficient hub scheduling.

Excel at Operational Performance

"Giving customers a great experience also means excelling at operational performance," Grinstein emphasized. The planned continuous, "un-banked" hub in Atlanta is unique in its design. It will create a constant flow of arrivals and departures that will increase capacity while reducing congestion because of the efficiencies built into the system.

By eliminating the peaks and valleys and decreasing the amount of time it takes to turn an aircraft, the company said it would able to add 81 flights daily and seven new destinations, while decreasing hourly departures and arrivals by approximately 20 per hour. "This is great for the customer because it means less of a wait in a less-crowded airport," the CEO said.

Grinstein noted that to deliver the essentials of a customer's great travel experience - including clean aircraft, friendly service, on-time performance and reliable baggage handling - will require flawless execution and greater productivity from every member of the Delta team. "We'll be doing more with less," he said.

Plans were also unveiled to keep flight crews together throughout the day in an effort to help the airline and its crews be more efficient.

Sustain Profitable Growth

"All of these improvements and changes add up to a great value for our customers," Grinstein said. "By investing only in what our customers value, streamlining our operation, and fixing our cost structure we will be able to take it to the competition and win. Our goal is to become an efficient and respected competitor and to be in a position to grow profitably."

In another in its series of moves to promote profitable growth, the company today announced its intent to file for new U.S.-China service in order to expand its global network.

Profit sharing planned in the face of additional job losses, pay cuts and benefit reductions

The CEO emphasized that the changes necessary for viability will add customer value and contribute to Delta's survival and any future success. "Regrettably, the changes also will impact Delta people," he said. "Achieving our goals will require enormous change. To take it to the competition, we will have to work harder and more efficiently for less, but if we work together, we should win together. That is why Delta is adamant that its employees have the opportunity to share in any success their contributions help make possible."




---the rest can be found at DL's website, there's MUCH more.

[Edited 2004-09-08 14:48:58]
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Wed Sep 08, 2004 9:47 pm

I wonder what this really means for SONG....

ther strategic network changes central to the company's larger transformation include growing Song initially by adding 12 aircraft to its current fleet of 36 beginning in the late Spring of 2005, increasing seasonal domestic service, capitalizing on alliance partnerships and expanding international destinations.

I wonder what they mean by International Destinations? is this to Canada or the Islands? or are we talking Europe here? do they have any 757 w/ ETOPS?
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RE: Delta Announcement Now Playing; Listen Here Free!

Wed Sep 08, 2004 9:54 pm

Well tough time ahead for

DL collegues & their families,

hold on there boys & girls !

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Wed Sep 08, 2004 9:55 pm

Does that say flights from fll-pit?
717, 727, 731, 732, 733, 734, 735, 73G, 738, 752, 753, 762, 763, 777, DC9, MD80, DC10, L1011, ERJ, CRJ, ATR, DH8, A300,
 
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RE: Delta Announcement Now Playing; Listen Here Free!

Wed Sep 08, 2004 9:56 pm

DFW is going from 254 daily flights to 21 effective in February 2005, and then only to 3 destinations... Ouch!
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Wed Sep 08, 2004 10:03 pm

So any guesses on the fleet types to be retired?

737-200, 737-300 and MD90 I think are the obvious choices...But that's the 4th?


The only thing I can guess at is the 777??? Drop NRT and let NW and CO codeshare handle them now?

There are too many MD80's to get rid of those?! And they said the MD88 is the first aircraft to be transformed. Maybe if they count their owns subsidiary's they could mean the ATR?

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RE: Delta Announcement Now Playing; Listen Here Free!

Wed Sep 08, 2004 10:04 pm

Nothing really surprising here... everything that's in that press release has been discussed here at a.net over the past couple of weeks in one form or another, maybe with the exception of the depeaking of the ATL-hub, which has been long overdue anyway.

Delta's so-called 'International Growth' or 'Increased Focus on Longhaul Flying' as it was discussed here is a bit dissappointing though. Basically, the only expansion they're looking at is a possible entry into the mainland China market. That is, of course provided they can get their hands on some of the additional frequencies that will become available. They'll definitely have to compete with other 'new entrants' AA and CO for those rights.

 
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Wed Sep 08, 2004 10:08 pm

The only thing I can guess at is the 777??? Drop NRT and let NW and CO codeshare handle them now?

Unlikely to happen, as they're applying for China rights. I guess they might be looking at doing away with the 762s, if that would count as a seperate aircraft type.

 
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Wed Sep 08, 2004 10:09 pm

"do they have any 757 w/ ETOPS?"


I just heard from a buddy in DAL management that they are looking at several 757s with ETOPS to be picked up on leases.
 
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Wed Sep 08, 2004 10:14 pm

Yea I am listening to the announcement now just herd the china thing. Maybe they mean to finally get rid of the parked MD11 or returning the 777 and reinstating the MD11 since they are paid for?!

Maybe it is the MD80 since they are giving them selves 4 years to do it...They can get enough 737's by then.

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Wed Sep 08, 2004 10:15 pm

Wow !!

Pulling out of my hometown, LBB and AMA isn't really a shock. WN owns the LBB to DAL/DFW market, unless you are traveling elsewhere outside of WN's destinations via the Dallas area.


 
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Wed Sep 08, 2004 10:18 pm

Maybe they mean to finally get rid of the parked MD11 or returning the 777 and reinstating the MD11 since they are paid for?!

Or vice verse, get rid of the MD11, as it is still on their books and therefore maybe technically still considered a different aircraft type? Still, my money is on the 762s going out, together with the 732s, 733s and MD90s.

 
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Wed Sep 08, 2004 10:23 pm

81 additional flights from ATL?!?!?! Holy crap. That will be what, 700+ departures a day. When I took economics, we learned about a little something called "diminishing returns." I would think that ATL would have hit that point a long time ago. I'm obviously wrong.

Kind of disappointed that no mention was made for west coast. LAX to lose even more DL service with DFW dismantling. You see, US not the only one to decimate LA service it acquired from another carrier.

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RE: Delta Announcement Now Playing; Listen Here Free!

Wed Sep 08, 2004 10:27 pm

Kind of disappointed that no mention was made for west coast.


Actually, there was... in the press release anyways.


They plan to expand the west considerably, but mostly through partners.
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Wed Sep 08, 2004 10:28 pm

sorry for all the people on delta wich will be fired,


about the fleet i would consider these 4 aircraft types to be retired:


MD-11 (still owned by delta)
767-200 (turning old now)
737-200 (also old)
ATR....


think they will hang on the MD80;s 90's and 737-300's for a while. also think they Will receive the 737-800 wich were suposed to be sold to other airlines...




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RE: Delta Announcement Now Playing; Listen Here Free!

Wed Sep 08, 2004 10:30 pm

Hmmm....


...anyone else notice that the words REGIONAL JET were not mentioned even once in that whole thing?!


Wonder what happened to their whole "we wanna reduce long flights spent on regional aircraft" concept?  Yeah sure
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Wed Sep 08, 2004 10:31 pm

81 additional flights from ATL?!?!?! Holy crap. That will be what, 700+ departures a day. When I took economics, we learned about a little something called "diminishing returns." I would think that ATL would have hit that point a long time ago. I'm obviously wrong.

The increase of frequencies at ATL is a must for Delta. They want to depeak the ATL-hub, and, for it to remain commercially viable, additional flights must be added to keep connection times short enough so that people are still willing to travel through the hub.

As paradoxical as it may sound, but the addition of these extra flights as a result of the depeaking of the hub, will actually reduce congestion at ATL, as flights will be more evenly spread out throughout the operational day.

Another beneficial effect of the depeaked ATL hub will be a more efficient use of the human resources working at ATL. The traditional Hub and Spoke Operational Model is known to be very inefficient in its use of human resources needed to run the system.

 
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Wed Sep 08, 2004 10:39 pm

ConcordeBoy-

Thanks, but I meant service with DL metal along the West Coast. OO is the only partner that has any significant presence on the Coast, and it's married to UA in SFO and LAX. If Delta adds service, it's logical to assume that it will simply be adding more service to existing spokes from SLC. That's hardly a significant presence.

Now if AS joins SkyTeam, we'd be talking a whole different story...

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Wed Sep 08, 2004 10:51 pm

I think they will take a hard look at that 777 vs. MD-11. It is costing them SOOOO much $$ more to operate this a/c than other airlines due to the low amount of a/c they have. Here's a recurring theme that seems to play out in each and every airline. SHRINK! These airlines are trying to be big and bad but won't survive that way b/c the little guys will eat them up. 20 little fish are bigger than one big fish. They need to shrink their fleet and their routes. The 777's out. The 762's in. They need to keep a common fleet (767 fleet??!?!?!?!?) and not have so many different a/c. The 732's are out weather the airline survives or not just due to age and wear.

Sad to see yet another airline suffer from the wrath of the current aviation industry.

Thanks again.

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Wed Sep 08, 2004 10:54 pm

Smart move pulling out of DFW. AA was adding 70 flights next year and AirTran has been making in-roads. SLC beefed up will make some serious money as it did for Western. I would venture LAX will get some expansion later as well to China and Japan.
 
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Wed Sep 08, 2004 10:58 pm

I beg to differ on the 762 vs 777 debate. The 767-200 fleet is getting very old. They will soon be junk. We have had to do a lot of work to keep them flying and it will only get worse. We do have 777 on order though and will someday get them to expand the fleet. May be about the same time we are allowed to fly to China?
 
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Wed Sep 08, 2004 11:03 pm

It is costing them SOOOO much $$ more to operate this a/c than other airlines due to the low amount of a/c they have.

...uh, that ain't why. Try again.
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Wed Sep 08, 2004 11:16 pm

That is a lot of excess CRJ's from the DL hub closure. Will DL hold on to them or sell some off?
 
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Wed Sep 08, 2004 11:20 pm

That is a lot of excess CRJ's from the DL hub closure. Will DL hold on to them or sell some off?

Actually delta predicts more CRJs are necessary..6 CRJ700s and 25 CRJ200s are due to be delivered for ASA until the end of 2005. ASA will have 43 flights out of SLC, 62 out of CVG and 74 additional flights out of ATL.

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Wed Sep 08, 2004 11:24 pm

So does this mean that the new enlarged schedule for SLC will be available soon.. as all of this is to be in place by Feb 2005?

Interesting to see which new destinations will be added to SLC.

On a side note! yeah for RDU.. new service to TPA.. wonder if it will be RJ or mainline.. seems to be a WN-DL battle there!
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Wed Sep 08, 2004 11:30 pm

Delta and Delta Connection carriers will begin new and/or additional service from Boston, New York-JFK, Ft. Lauderdale, Orlando and Tampa, Fla.; and Columbus, Ohio. The changes are as follows:

From Boston, Delta will offer 2 additional daily flights to Washington D.C. (total of 8); and 1 additional flight to Raleigh/Durham, N.C. (total of 4)

From New York-JFK: * 2 new daily flights each to Charlotte, N.C.; and Melbourne, Pensacola and Tallahassee, Fla.

From New York-JFK: 1 additional daily flight each, for a total of 3 each, to Greensboro, N.C and Jacksonville, Fla.

From Ft. Lauderdale: 1 additional daily flight, for a total of 2, to Pittsburgh, *2 new daily flights each to Dayton, Ohio and Norfolk, Va. * 1 new daily flight each to Charleston, S.C. and Richmond, Va. * 3 additional flights to Raleigh-Durham, N.C., for a total of 5
daily flights.

From Orlando: * 2 new daily flights to Knoxville, Tenn. * 1 new daily flight each to Asheville, N.C.; Gulfport, Miss.; Lexington, Ky., Little Rock, Ark.; and Panama, City, Fla.

From Orlando: 1 additional daily flight each to Birmingham, Ala.; Columbus, Ohio; Greenville/Spartanburg, S.C.; Pensacola, Fla.; and Raleigh-Durham, N.C.

From Tampa: * 3 new daily flights to Pensacola, Fla. * 2 new daily flights each to Dayton, Ohio; Greensboro, N.C., and
Raleigh-Durham, N.C.

Delta will also add 3 new daily flights between Columbus, Ohio, and Hartford, Conn., on Jan. 31.
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Thu Sep 09, 2004 12:07 am

ConcordeBoy,

Please explain then. All I know is that the price to operate a 777 for DL is way more than any other airline.

http://www.airlinepilotpay.com/dal/dal.htm

$293 for a first year pilot?!?!?!?!? $189 for a first year 777 capt. for UA. That's a big friggen difference and whatever the cause for the 777 issue is, this can't be helping the airline at all.

Thanks again.

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Thu Sep 09, 2004 12:22 am

Please explain then. All I know is that the price to operate a 777 for DL is way more than any other airline.

http://www.airlinepilotpay.com/dal/dal.htm

$293 for a first year pilot?!?!?!?!? $189 for a first year 777 capt. for UA. That's a big friggen difference and whatever the cause for the 777 issue is, this can't be helping the airline at all.


You actually show the reason why by linking to that site. The pilot pay is contractual and would not change based on fleet size. This is one of the things DL is trying to address in their ill approached negotiations with the pilots. Outside of pilot pay my guess is that the 777 is significantly cheaper to operate when compared to the MD-11. DL owns 8 777s and 8 MD-11s (the remaining 5 are leased). The MD-11 aircraft are now 7-12 years old.

As for retiring the 732s prior to the 762s. DL's 762s are actually older a/c, and are quite high cycle vehicles for their type. They are also corrosion nightmares. The thing that would keep DL from replacing them is the fact that no other a/c in the fleet fits in that size range. Depending on the load factor distribution on their 762 flights it may not be smart to up-size the routes with 763s or downsize them with 757s
 
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Thu Sep 09, 2004 12:35 am

Actually, I'd imagine that the "four types retired in four years" statement applies to the four years between 2003 and 2007 -- so that two of those types are the already-retired 727-200 and MD-11. My guess is that the additional two retired types will come from the MD-90's, 737-200's, 737-300's, or 767-200's. Clearly the MD-88's are here to stay.

I am sad to see Delta de-hubbing DFW since they had had a significant presence there for decades. I think it damages their network to some degree, but I suppose that the codeshare with CO and NW (through IAH and MEM, respectively) helpes to reduce the negative impact on Delta's frequent flyers a bit. I still think that deploying Song to DFW would have been a good experiment. DFW Terminal E is going to be mighty empty come February, since Delta won't need more than four or five gates.

ATL is probably the best hub of any in the world to be de-peaked -- Delta pushes so much traffic through ATL. It's likely that the average connection time will only increase by a few minutes.
 
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Thu Sep 09, 2004 12:39 am

New SLC flights will include but not limited to:


Austin, TX - 3 connection flights (old route, brought back)
Burbank, CA - 3 connection flights (old route, brought back)
Cabo San Lucas, Mexico - 1 mainline flight (new route)
El Paso, TX - 3 connection flights (old route, brought back)
Fayetville, AR - 2 connection flights (new route)
Ft. Lauderdale, FL - 2 mainline flights (new route)
Hayden, CO - 1 mainline flight (old route, brought back)
Little Rock, Ark. - 2 connection flights (new route)
Maui - 1 mainline flight to begin in May '05 (new route)
New Orleans - 2 mainline flights (old route, brought back)
San Antonio - 3 connection flights (old route, brought back)
Tampa, Fla. - 2 mainline flights (new route)
Wichita, Kan. - 3 connection flights (new route)


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Thu Sep 09, 2004 12:53 am

Quite an eye-opening announcement this morning. Overall, the transformation plan seems very well thought-out, targeting a variety of key initiatives deemed acceptable in turning the airline back towards profitability and sustainability. The only disappointing aspect of the release is the extremely high number of jobs that are planning on being cut as a result of the transformation plan. Hopefully with AA and FL ramping up in DFW, a good number of displaced DL employees can find new lines of work there, or transfer to ATL or SLC.

The only details still hidden from the general public for the time being seem to be the additional cities planned for ATL, SLC, and CVG expansion, additions planned for SONG, and the planned fleet rationalization.
There are several cities served from the 3 major hubs that have the O&D to be upgraded to mainline aircraft. According to the press release, both ATL and SLC are expected to see pretty significant mainline expansions, so hopefully some current RJ cities will be upgraded to mainline. The additions planned for SONG were touched on lightly, but seem to include more Florida and transcon. The fleet changes are anyone's guess, with the most likely candidates for disposal being the MD-90s and 737-200s, at least on the mainline side.

Locally, this announcement is very good news. Delta now finally considers Columbus to be a focus city. The addition of BDL and additional MCO service will bring Delta up to 40 daily flights to 11 destinations, assuming the current schedules to other cities remain the same. With the additions planned elsewhere in the Delta system, more expansion from CMH could be on the way.

That is a lot of excess CRJ's from the DL hub closure. Will DL hold on to them or sell some off?

Many of the RJs currently flying as Delta Connection out of DFW are Chautauqua Airlines aircraft. It looks like most of them will be going to facilitate Delta's planned Florida growth, including to the destinations released today.
 
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Thu Sep 09, 2004 12:54 am

Delta has already announced that they will begin retiring the 732's as their leases come up, but that won't be complete until 2008. Unless this announcement changes some of that(which it probably doesn't), then the 732's will be here for a few more years.

Delta currently runs over 900 flights in and out of ATL a day. Wonder how much this is going to increase with the DFW closure?
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Thu Sep 09, 2004 12:57 am

Jkudall:

Is that list available for public viewing or just for Delta employees? Are the schedules highlighting the planned additions/cuts already released?
 
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Please explain then. All I know is that the price to operate a 777 for DL is way more than any other airline.

True, just that fleet size (i.e., your conjecture) has rather nil to do with that...
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As I mentioned earlier, Delta should shut down Dallas and concentrate on Atlanta, Cincinnati and Salt Lake City hubs to make them stronger and work hard to keep what they have. Robert.
 
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Thu Sep 09, 2004 1:06 am

"Delta currently runs over 900 flights in and out of ATL a day. Wonder how much this is going to increase with the DFW closure?"

Atlanta schedule changes:

Total flights now - 970
Total flights new - 1,051

Total mainline flights now - 625
Total mainline flights new - 688

Total Connection flights now - 345
Total Connection flights new - 363

Nonstop destinations now - 186
Nonstop destinations new - 193
 
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Thu Sep 09, 2004 1:07 am

1,000 daily flights at ATL...we'll see how that works out as far as congestion. Especially with just 4 runways (soon to be 5).
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Thu Sep 09, 2004 1:13 am

I read over at Delta.com that with the changes, Atlanta will go over 1000 daily Delta (mainline/connection/Song; does not include SkyTeam partners) flights. That is a lot of action, to say the least.

The overall percentage breakdown is as follows:

ATL +8.35%
CVG +4.92%
SLC +18.24%
DFW -91.74%

It looks like of course SLC will take a big part of the hit, but what surprises me is that CVG is only going up 5%, with only one new mainline flight (the ~30 other flights are all Connection). I would have thought CVG might try and take some of the Northeast (BOS, LGA, DCA) - West Coast traffic that is routed through DFW (as well as SLC, ATL, and CVG in its current state). Then again, I'm not surprised, since the CVG and DFW hubs don't have much overlap at all...

As for routes only served out of the DFW hub, there are three: BPT, AMA, and LBB. I wouldn't be shocked if these three routes went to ATL, they might all work there.

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Thu Sep 09, 2004 1:22 am

"The 777's out. The 762's in."

Ummmmmm....Wrong. I'd like to know how someone 13-15 years old is an expert on that.

If I had to guess, which is all any of us can do, I'd say the 737-200's, 737-300's, 767-200's, and MD80's are out. It seems they're all older. It seems like the likely choice to me. The 777 is so much newer, and a great option on international routes, which seems to be an area the "new" Delta is going to focus on. In order to focus on longer haul routes, you need aircraft that can operate effeciently on longer haul routes. The 777 is MUCH better at that than the 767-200's by far.
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Thu Sep 09, 2004 1:28 am

AMA, and LBB. I wouldn't be shocked if these three routes went to ATL

...gonna be axed completely

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Thu Sep 09, 2004 1:31 am

and MD80's are out

...um, doesn't take a brain surgeon either to figure out that a near-bankrupt airline isn't going to attempt replacing 120 members of a family type within a four-year period  Laugh out loud
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Thu Sep 09, 2004 1:46 am

"...and MD80's are out."

Reading comprehension just might help here:

"In addition to maintaining two classes of service, upgraded and updated cabins, with features such as leather seats with more comfort and better lighting, will be phased in over the next 18 months to offer more inviting interiors. The first MD-88 with the new interiors will begin flying by the middle of this month."

I would imagine that Delta wouldn't be upgrading the interiors of aircraft which are slated to be retired in the immediate future. The MD-88 type makes up a large part of DL's domestic mainline fleet -- cutting the MD-88 would result in reducing capacity by 15-20%.
 
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Thu Sep 09, 2004 2:00 am

For those who want to know where most of these details are coming from, go here:

http://news.delta.com/article_display.cfm?article_id=9413

Go about 2/3 down the page to where it says "The Right Airline for the New Era." Under that section they outline the current and future hub structures as well as some of the new focus city flights.
 
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Thu Sep 09, 2004 2:09 am

Will the MD-88's be setup for IFE? General cabin flip down screens?

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Thu Sep 09, 2004 2:12 am

Did anyone notice that all the DL connex carriers (DCI's) are completely leaving DFW? So what does this mean for EV emps? Are they considered as part of the 6000-7000 cut jobs? Where are they gonna go? I doubt they would transfer. The money made as a regional emp does not make up for leaving home for most people.

The DCI's taken from DFW Are probably going to be running longer flts up to 2 hrs (sorry RJ haters). If you look at all the DCI's in DFW, there are 202. After the du-hubbing, there will be flts added to the other hubs, but according to the website it only equals about 80 or so extra flts total. I guess they will be tak9ing a lion's share of the 81 new daily flts. That still leaves quite a few extra a/c or slots to fill

 
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Thu Sep 09, 2004 2:13 am

A mixture of both good and bad news but overall I like it.


I'm relieved to hear that the SLC hub is not only getting kept but also being re-expanded a bit (delta cut flights earlier this year as you know.)

Sad to hear about the 7,000 additional jobs that will be lost. Seems to be the norm these days with the majors. Hopefully they will find work again within the industry.


Also sad to hear that 4 types will have to be retired. But happy to hear that the interiors are getting changed. THAT, has been needed for a long time.


My guesses for the 4 types:

MD-90
732
762
.....this one's an iffy. Hasn't there been some discussion before of Delta selling their 777s? If so then maybe that's the 4th type. But with new service to China wouldn't they want to keep those?

How's the 764 doing? Could that be the 4th type?
 
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Thu Sep 09, 2004 2:24 am

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Thu Sep 09, 2004 2:39 am

With those of us at Skyway waiting the info for DL to go ahead with the takeover as the DLC carrier out of CVG replacing ACA it will be a rough road waiting for any news from DL for scheduling and routes.


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