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AirAsia Oder

Sat Oct 02, 2004 12:44 am

Hello all,

Just heard on Justplanes that AirAsia could be ordering Airbus A320's or Boeing 737-800's.

What do you think there order?

Thanks

European.

P.S

There thinking of having 50 firm and 50 options.
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RE: AirAsia Oder

Sat Oct 02, 2004 1:54 am

Do any of you think that the AirAsia livery would look wierd on an A320, I think that it will at first but then you would get used to it!

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RE: AirAsia Oder

Sat Oct 02, 2004 2:19 am

Well considering all Air Asia flies are 737-300's, I'm pretty sure they would want to keep their fleet uniform.
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RE: AirAsia Oder

Sat Oct 02, 2004 2:22 am

I thought they already ordered Airbus.

Applications for lending for 'whatever' they buy is submitted through Credit Lyonnais in Paris.

I guess you can speculate what they might buy....(although they do handle other than Airbus....).
 
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RE: AirAsia Oder

Sat Oct 02, 2004 2:43 am

They're going to make an announcement within the next couple of weeks.
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RE: AirAsia Oder

Sat Oct 02, 2004 3:07 am

Well considering all Air Asia flies are 737-300's, I'm pretty sure they would want to keep their fleet uniform.

That hasn't stopped plenty of other airlines from replacing 737s with A320s. If they really are going to order 50+50, then 'commonality' with their existing fleet isn't much of an issue.

As a side question, is there much comonality between a 737-300 and a 737NG?
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RE: AirAsia Oder

Sat Oct 02, 2004 6:26 am

"That hasn't stopped plenty of other airlines from replacing 737s with A320s. If they really are going to order 50+50, then 'commonality' with their existing fleet isn't much of an issue."

Oh brother. There are not many airlines that have replaced their entire fleet of 737s with 320s or 319s for that matter.
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RE: AirAsia Oder

Sat Oct 02, 2004 8:03 am

There are not many airlines that have replaced their entire fleet of 737s with 320s or 319s for that matter.

I specifically said replacing  Smile

Plenty of large 737 operators have only been purchasing new A320s. Hence, they are in the process of replacing 737s with A320s. For an airline, for example, of the size of BA, this is a long term process. That doesn't mean it isn't happening. Ditto, LH, AF, UA, etc.

Air Asia operates a fleet of 17 or 18 aging 737-300s (some are about 20 years old). My point was, it doesn't really matter what they replace them with (especially if they're really going to buy 50!)
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RE: AirAsia Oder

Sat Oct 02, 2004 8:30 am

That hasn't stopped plenty of other airlines from replacing 737s with A320s. If they really are going to order 50+50, then 'commonality' with their existing fleet isn't much of an issue.

Yes, however reading the following (below) from their website made me assume that they were going to stick with the 733's.

AirAsia operates a single type of aircraft, the Boeing 737-300, regarded as the workhorse of the industry. The 737 is the best selling commercial jet of all time, made popular because of its efficiency and cost effectiveness. By building up a uniform fleet, AirAsia is able to keep fares low, as costs for spares and training are reduced.

Presumably, they are big on fleet uniformity.


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RE: AirAsia Oder

Sat Oct 02, 2004 9:17 am

I wonder what easyJet had on their website re their fleet prior to the purchase of A319s.  Laugh out loud

Pretty much the same as AK I believe, standard among LCCs to stress on their one fleet type.
 
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RE: AirAsia Oder

Sat Oct 02, 2004 12:49 pm

Well Air Asia is going to grow so no harm in going for Airbus (that seems to be a trend). If they were only purchasing one or two aircrafts then it would make no sense, but Air Asia’s going to grow and the option of expanding is probable so, the fact that they hold only Boeing equipment shouldn’t be of primary concern.
If they love their current planes and want to stick with what they know works then great... Boeing it is.
Even I am used to seeing the colours on their 737’s... but I agree once painted on an airbus we would get used to it.
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RE: AirAsia Oder

Sat Oct 02, 2004 4:43 pm

My unanswered question is "Can a 737-300 pilot just walk up to a 737NG and fly it?"

If not, then the issue of fleet commonality is totally irrelevant. I suspect it will be anyway, given the numbers that are being talked about. They'll go for whoever offers them the better deal.
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RE: AirAsia Oder

Sat Oct 02, 2004 6:45 pm

I'd like to follow up on Scbriml's question:
"Can a 737-300 pilot just walk up to a 737NG and fly it?"

Can a 737-700 pilot just walk up to a 737-800 and fly it?
 
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RE: AirAsia Oder

Sat Oct 02, 2004 7:04 pm

Holy Crap..if Air Asia goes for the 320 series, that makes 4 lccs running in the region 320s...Air Asia, Tiger, Valuair, Jetstar Asia...
Oh yea...don't forget that SQ's parent company Temasek has a big stake in all of em cept Air Asia...


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RE: AirAsia Oder

Sat Oct 02, 2004 7:17 pm

I think that i would prefer AirAsia to place an order for Boeing 737-700's not 800's.

Would you prefer them to order:Airbus A320, Boeing 737-700 or the Boeing 737-800?

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RE: AirAsia Oder

Sat Oct 02, 2004 9:54 pm

Applications for lending for 'whatever' they buy is submitted through Credit Lyonnais in Paris.
- Actually, throught CSFB or Credit Suisse First Boston.
- AK is expected to raise up to RM1 billion or about US$ 263 million in its IPO
- Which due anytime this month or in November
- To financing its (upcoming) fleet/plan expansion.
- Previously, AK raised bank debt last year when it secured a RM100 million ($26.3 million) loan from Malaysia’s Southern Bank and DBS Bank of Singapore.
- The loan was used to fund the airline’s (recently) fleet expansion and the purchase of four aircraft. AK owns five of its fleet of currently 19 aircraft.


that makes 4 lccs running in the region 320s...Air Asia, Tiger, Valuair, Jetstar Asia...
Oh yea...don't forget that SQ's parent company Temasek has a big stake in all of em cept Air Asia...

and Valuair (Singapore’s first LCC and the city-state’s first privately-owned airline).


I think AK will go/stick with Boeing as the new AirAsia simulator and tranining complex in KLIA / KUL open its door next year and will have 2 (and later 4) B737 full-flight simulators. Unless they have extra money to burn, don't mind n don't care to renew the current 10 years old contract with CAE or buy the brand new Airbus sims, it is a different story.
 
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RE: AirAsia Oder

Sat Oct 02, 2004 11:49 pm

No..they are applying for a loan in excess of 75 Million through CL in Paris.
I've seen the application. Most companies don't just submit that kind of paper to 'shop loans.'

Airbus and CL go hand in hand. It's likely they'll go Bus....that's all I'm saying.

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