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Big Airports Without Jet Bridges

Mon Oct 11, 2004 11:42 am

I came across a couple of pictures of Mumbai and New Delhi airports in India and did not notice any jet bridges to the aircraft (please post links of pics that show bridges, if any), which has me assuming that all pax either walk or are shuttled by bus to the terminal. This must be some task for these airports, which handle large numbers of pax! So this has me wondering, what large airports around the world do not have jet bridges and require the shuttling of pax to and from the terminal? Is this seen as a burden or an inefficiency at those airports, depending on the ones you mention?

Also, what is the ratio of jetbridge / shuttling ops at the following airports?
- Jeddah
- Khartoum
- Cairo
- Athens
- Dubai
- Abidjan
- Lagos
- Accra
- Johannesburg
- Bangkok

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RE: Big Airports Without Jet Bridges

Mon Oct 11, 2004 12:00 pm

For the most part the rule of thumb in India is that International flights have jetbridges and domestic flights don't (there are some exceptions). Domestic and international terminals are usually separate so if you saw a domestic terminal you might think that DEL has no jetbridges, but in reality the international terminal is equipped with them. Most flights in India do not use jetbridges though, which is a real pain when you get off an air conditioned plane into 90F or 30C+ temperatures and 100% humidity.


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Photography at airports in India is illegal, so there are few pictures of the terminals. There are some, which people have taken, but few overall.
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RE: Big Airports Without Jet Bridges

Mon Oct 11, 2004 12:09 pm

Correct me if I'm mistaken, but isn't Lima airport (LIM) remodelling to install jet bridges? I've never been there, but I understand it's all escalators to take you from the terminal to the plane...anyone know?
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RE: Big Airports Without Jet Bridges

Mon Oct 11, 2004 12:21 pm

No jetbridges at TLV (yet)
 
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RE: Big Airports Without Jet Bridges

Mon Oct 11, 2004 12:21 pm

I think Colombo doesn't have any jet bridges as well. They shuttle passengers to and from airplanes. Personally I prefer not having jet bridges as that allows me to get closer to the engines and get the registration number easier.

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RE: Big Airports Without Jet Bridges

Mon Oct 11, 2004 12:40 pm

In the United States, almost all airports with mainline service these days have jet bridges. Even newer regional airports are now adding jet bridges for RJ's and props.

Two of the largest (not really even that large) airports without jet bridges:

Kona, Hawaii (KOA)
Vail, Colorado (EGE)
 
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RE: Big Airports Without Jet Bridges

Mon Oct 11, 2004 12:45 pm

I was in Mumbai and Calcutta and there are jets bridges which are primarily used for international flights.....
 
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RE: Big Airports Without Jet Bridges

Mon Oct 11, 2004 12:59 pm

BUR is a well known, moderately busy airport that has no jetways. You should see how fast WN can turn a 737 there.
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RE: Big Airports Without Jet Bridges

Mon Oct 11, 2004 1:01 pm

LIM and CPT are the largest one w/o jetbridges.

It is especially amazing in CPT to see all those heavy a/c with all their pax having to deplane and take a bus into the terminal.

Of course, PBH does not have jetbridges.

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RE: Big Airports Without Jet Bridges

Mon Oct 11, 2004 1:15 pm

Moscow's Sheremetyevo-1 has no air bridges either, but perhaps this is a good thing as one gets to see lots of cool things riding the bus around on the tarmac....
 
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RE: Big Airports Without Jet Bridges

Mon Oct 11, 2004 1:28 pm

What about SVO 2? Do they have jetways there? That is the international terminal. Oh, while we are on Moscow, how about DDO? Since BA and Swiss have already moved there, and their facilities are apparently much nicer, how are they?
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RE: Big Airports Without Jet Bridges

Mon Oct 11, 2004 2:58 pm

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RE: Big Airports Without Jet Bridges

Mon Oct 11, 2004 3:02 pm

"It is especially amazing in CPT to see all those heavy a/c with all their pax having to deplane and take a bus into the terminal."

Not for much longer. When I was there a couple of weeks back, I was suprised to see that 2 jetbridges have been installed - they were not yet in use though as the terminal is still being redeveloped.

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RE: Big Airports Without Jet Bridges

Mon Oct 11, 2004 3:39 pm


Jeddah, Saudi Arabia (OEJN/JED) has no jet bridges and all flights are shuttled by busses to the terminals. There are plans to build a new terminal that will handle 30+ aircraft through jet bridges. Construction has not started yet. Jeddah might be the only airport on the TOP 100 busiest in the world that des not have a single jet bridge.


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RE: Big Airports Without Jet Bridges

Mon Oct 11, 2004 3:51 pm

KiloAlpha, IIRC Jeddah used those people mover busses that dock to aircraft the last time I was there, ooooh over 10 years ago. Do they still use those or do you have to step down the stairs and board a bus? I remember their gate area so vividly, it looked like a bus terminal... Great airport though, as back then all I could see were SV widebodies (except for a few 732s)
 
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RE: Big Airports Without Jet Bridges

Mon Oct 11, 2004 4:16 pm

SJC, San Jose California has no jet bridges at Terminal C. They have just broken ground on a new terminal complex, so hopefully this will be remedied in the near future.

Find out more about the new terminal here:
http://www.sjc.org/improve.html
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RE: Big Airports Without Jet Bridges

Mon Oct 11, 2004 9:45 pm

Leezyjet/Pzurita1 - CPT most certainly does have fully working airbridges, because I boarded an SAA 744 down one last year  Big grin. They are attached to the new international terminal, and although there aren't many they are in full operation.

ETStar asked about the situation in JNB. Basically, airbridges are readily available at both the international and domestic terminals, but particularly at the international tend to get used by SAA. Foreign heavies, i.e. BA, AF, LX, TAP, EK, LH... tend to use the remote apron north of the terminal. This is what I noticed last year, I'll keep an eye out when I'm at JNB this Saturday Big grin).

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RE: Big Airports Without Jet Bridges

Mon Oct 11, 2004 10:54 pm

@N1120A, SVO2 has jetways. It is the international terminal. As you said, SVO1 doesn't have any jetways. I flew 4 times LX to SVO from Geneva but I have never flown to Moscow since LX switched to DME. What I heard, it has an easier access from city center.
 
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RE: Big Airports Without Jet Bridges

Mon Oct 11, 2004 11:04 pm

JNB only very recently got jetbridges (OK maybe its been a while now, but they were very late in coming) - for years and years, it was either a short walk across the tarmac or a bus (if on Bravo, Charlie or Delta aprons) - regardless of the weather (be it freezing highveld winter morning or pelting highveld summer rain/hail or roasting highveld summer heat). It was nice though in some ways - nothing more fun than boarding a 747 from the ground - you really appreciate the size !
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RE: Big Airports Without Jet Bridges

Mon Oct 11, 2004 11:06 pm

HDN (Hayden/Steamboat Springs, CO) - no jetways
 
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RE: Big Airports Without Jet Bridges

Mon Oct 11, 2004 11:10 pm

No jetbridges at TLV (yet)

In two weeks only  Smile.

Not that TLV is a big airport.
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RE: Big Airports Without Jet Bridges

Mon Oct 11, 2004 11:36 pm

While years ago, Abidjan did not have any airbridges, the current airport website shows airbridges on the map. Does anyone know if they exist or are they just part of the plan?

Does Accra have air bridges?

How about Sarjah?

Langkawi in Malaysia does not have any, although MAS flies 744s there.

Sylhet in Bangladesh gets 4 x weekly A310 service, no airbrige there.

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RE: Big Airports Without Jet Bridges

Mon Oct 11, 2004 11:44 pm

DME does indeed have jetbridges that interface with western and Russian aircraft. It is a normal airport by western standards albeit with Russian bathrooms. It has a light rail connection directly into the city which is nice, but by car/bus it is no more or less convenient than SVO 1-2. It just depends on where one is going.
 
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RE: Big Airports Without Jet Bridges

Tue Oct 12, 2004 2:17 am

Doesn't the Haj terminal at JED have jet bridges? I remember seeing a picture of it somewhere.

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RE: Big Airports Without Jet Bridges

Tue Oct 12, 2004 2:22 am

Checked through the list - yes, I did think Lima (LIM) would be on this one! I was very surprised, considering for many European operators Lima is one of the key airports in South America (serviced by Iberia - obviously - but also KLM, Air France etc) - so having a 100% full A340 loaded by bus seemed a very complicated way to do it!

Not quite on the list of 'major' airports, but La Paz, Bolivia (LPB) also gets Iberia heavies and has no jet-bridges.
 
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RE: Big Airports Without Jet Bridges

Tue Oct 12, 2004 3:20 am

Sao Paulo domestic CGH does not have airbridges, but they are in the process to build 8 airbridges.
Rio Santos Dumont SDU does not have any airbridges neither.
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RE: Big Airports Without Jet Bridges

Tue Oct 12, 2004 3:30 am

PPT has no jet bridges but does get quite a few widebodies; ditto for BGI, SXM, UVF and various other Caribbean destinations. LIM also doesn't have any, but I believe PanAm747 is correct that there are plans to add them as they remodel the terminal--I saw a model of the design when I was there about a year ago.
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RE: Big Airports Without Jet Bridges

Tue Oct 12, 2004 3:35 am

Try unloading a charter config L-1011 at PVR with a bunch of recent high school graduates by stair and bus. 400 17-18 year olds. I was on that flight years ago with ATA on my high school senior trip
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RE: Big Airports Without Jet Bridges

Tue Oct 12, 2004 4:11 am

AS JGHPH1A and LHR27C said JNB has bridges at the new domestic terminal and the new international terminal. JNB can be a real pain if you land on runway 03R/21L , you make a 6-8 mins taxi and then if you have parked at the Delta apron another 5 mins in the bus...although busses are cool because you can snap some nice shots along the way  Big thumbs up

CPT does not have any bridges. I expect they will be investing in some bridges soon as CPT grows with more and more traffic.

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RE: Big Airports Without Jet Bridges

Tue Oct 12, 2004 4:21 am

At the old terminal at Addis Ababa, Ethiopia (ADD) with just 3 jetbridges, passengers would disembark using stairs (even though the aircraft was parked next to a jet bridge) and departing passengers would use the bridge. This was required to effectively separate arriving and departing international passengers, which IIRC is a requirement to get approval for service to the US (NBO is not cleared as a gateway to the US as this is something they have a hard time dealing with).

The new terminal at ADD now has 5 jet bridges whereby arriving pax use the jetbridge to get to the second floor (arrivals), and the same jet bridge is used to board the aircraft from the third floor of the terminal. There are still a larger number of remote stands that are used, most of them being in front of the old terminal (the old terminal is not in use). Flights that use remote stands use this particular gate (between the first and second to left gates) which has escalators to the ground floor, where pax are bussed to their aircraft. Also, flights that carry VIPs tend to have pax shuttled to the aircraft as the VIP lounge is still in the old terminal (to the right of the third jetbridge from the left)


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RE: Big Airports Without Jet Bridges

Tue Oct 12, 2004 4:39 am

Does SXM have bridges?
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RE: Big Airports Without Jet Bridges

Tue Oct 12, 2004 4:49 am

KOA isn't a big airport, but it does operate heavies and has no jet bridges.
 
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RE: Big Airports Without Jet Bridges

Tue Oct 12, 2004 4:53 am

Does any one have the full list of Aiports Council International?

If so, we could see what are the worlds largest airports and find which one does not have jetbridges....

Up to know, from info stated in this thread I bet the most serious contenders are: JED, SDU, LIM, CGH and CPT. ( I know LIM and CPT have plans to build them, but currently, do not have)

C'mon, just because one of SVO or SJC does not have jetbridges, you cannot say those airpots have none at all. Also, what is Langkawi gets 744 and does not have jetbridges... I bet they barely have 1 Mio pax a year., hence not a "world largest airport".

Let''s stick to hard facts. So, does any one have that list of ACI? In its website you can only see 30 largest, and all of them have jetbridges (30th largest in PHL with 24.6M pax

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RE: Big Airports Without Jet Bridges

Tue Oct 12, 2004 5:10 am

What about PIK, no jet bridges there either. I still would consider Prestwick a big airport. I would love to see more flights to the USA!!! Also VPS just built a new terminal with 3 jet bridges. Used to have DL MD-88's and NW DC-9's come in with no bridges.
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RE: Big Airports Without Jet Bridges

Tue Oct 12, 2004 6:49 am

LIM will have operating air bridges by February 2005, first 4 (out of 7) are already in place but no yet operational.
TLV also doesnt have air bridges,but the new terminal with airbridges shall open in November
 
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RE: Big Airports Without Jet Bridges

Tue Oct 12, 2004 7:13 am

What about SXM? But would that be counted as a big airport?
 
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RE: Big Airports Without Jet Bridges

Tue Oct 12, 2004 7:21 am

CPT has approx 3 Jet Bridges for international while JNB has, I recall, 5 for international flights.
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RE: Big Airports Without Jet Bridges

Tue Oct 12, 2004 7:44 am

ETStar-Athens Hellinikon airport has no bridges but the new Athens International airport does.
Hellinikon is no more so technically Athens does have jet bridges now.
 
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RE: Big Airports Without Jet Bridges

Tue Oct 12, 2004 7:57 am

(serviced by Iberia - obviously - but also KLM, Air France etc)

The AF flight is just a DL codeshare.

LIM is currently constructing a new terminal, with jetbridges and all! Can't wait to see the final result!
 
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RE: Big Airports Without Jet Bridges

Tue Oct 12, 2004 8:40 am

In the United States, almost all airports with mainline service these days have jet bridges. Even newer regional airports are now adding jet bridges for RJ's and props

Gosh, I've never seen a prop at a passenger bridge. Which airports have them and do you have any links to photos? It would be cool to see.
 
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RE: Big Airports Without Jet Bridges

Tue Oct 12, 2004 8:43 am

When I was in Italy this past summer, I noticed that NAP doesn't have jet bridges. I haven't flown into VCE in a long time, but I remember that they didn't have them back in 1996. MXP didn't have them for a long time, but when the new terminal opened in 1998, they got them.

One of my favourite airports, YYG (Charlottetown, Prince Edward Island, Canada), does not have them, but I suppose they wouldn't need them. Big grin

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RE: Big Airports Without Jet Bridges

Tue Oct 12, 2004 10:36 am

STT has no bridges. This is not a big airport but most US airlines that fly there use 757s (AA, UA, DL, US) CO uses a 737-700. US uses a 767 from PHL during the winter.
 
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RE: Big Airports Without Jet Bridges

Tue Oct 12, 2004 10:45 am

Also worth mentioning is the Mediterranean holiday airports many of which lack airbridges and in the height of the summer season there are busses everywhere! Two that stick in my mind are Heraklion and Paphos which can get packed to the rafters if its a changeover day and it does take ages to transfer passengers by bus.
 
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RE: Big Airports Without Jet Bridges

Tue Oct 12, 2004 10:03 pm

Pzurita1/SA006, for the record, CPT most definitely does have airbridges. I have walked down one, and here's a photo I took of my aircraft at the gate in CPT with the airbridge on the right.

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RE: Big Airports Without Jet Bridges

Tue Oct 12, 2004 10:55 pm

JNB & CPT

To my knowledge JNB has at least 8 bridges @ International. SAA's US-bound flights depart from gates A1 and 8, most of the time.

On the domestic side, gates with airbridges are either in the C or D section. To me knowledge there are at least 10 of them ranging from D1 to C13.


CPT International terminal has 2 working airbridges. They are in operation already.


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RE: Big Airports Without Jet Bridges

Mon Oct 18, 2004 2:23 pm

I was reading a thread on Adelaide's new terminal currently under construction in another website just now, and I have the impression that the Domestic Terminal doesn't have any jet bridges at all, and the International Terminal seems to have only one jet bridge and apparently that one jet bridge looks like it was maybe built as an afterthought.

Like most major Australian airports, the domestic and international terminals in ADL are housed in separate terminal buildings quite far apart. Only MEL seems to be an exception to this.

However, ADL's new terminal is currently going up and will have the international and domestic terminals all in one building like MEL does - and will have at least 14 jet bridges.
 
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RE: Big Airports Without Jet Bridges

Mon Oct 18, 2004 10:11 pm

Colombo will be getting air bridges soon. They are currently being built as part of the renovation going on at the main terminal. Not sure when it will be finished though
 
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RE: Big Airports Without Jet Bridges

Mon Oct 18, 2004 11:48 pm

For all intents and purposes SVO-1 and SVO-2 are different airports. SVO-1 is the main domestic/near abroad hub of Russia and has no jet bridges. So I think it still counts! Anyway, due to the lack of them people get extra chances to smoke a last cigarette.....

 
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RE: Big Airports Without Jet Bridges

Tue Oct 19, 2004 12:08 am

yup, as mentioned before LGB doesn't have jetways. Heck, it doesn't have a great terminal. Bungalows are used for the gates!
 
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RE: Big Airports Without Jet Bridges

Tue Oct 19, 2004 12:32 am

Dakar

Well, it's not a huge airport but it's still one of WestAfrica's major airports and when I was there not so long time ago they didn't have jet bridges...and I suppose this didn't change till now.

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