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New Indonesian LCC?

Mon Oct 18, 2004 1:07 pm

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RE: New Indonesian LCC?

Mon Oct 18, 2004 4:04 pm

I don't think your link works. All I get is a blank page with some headers.
 
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RE: New Indonesian LCC?

Mon Oct 18, 2004 4:13 pm

Looks like the link has expired Sad
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RE: New Indonesian LCC?

Mon Oct 18, 2004 4:49 pm

In the last two year about every Indonesian citizen has started his own airline so guess another one won't make much difference.
Also most airlines there have already a LCC structure, with ticket pricing about the lowest in the world (10-25 euro for a typical 1 hr OW flight).
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RE: New Indonesian LCC?

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RE: New Indonesian LCC?

Mon Oct 18, 2004 5:11 pm

Not sure if this is the same story, but Air Asia of Malaysia just bought a defunct Indonesian airline (see news below).

Also, expect an Indonesia-based Air Asia operating out Jakarta in the upcoming months. This new subsidiary should follow along the line of Thai Air Asia, i.e. a local 'Indonesian tycoon' would hold 51% interest and Malaysia's Air Asia Ltd 49%. This type of partnership is a proven success to secure air rights in tightly regulated market of Thailand and Indonesia. A locally incorporated airline will easily secure freedom rights to fly to other countries.


MALAYSIA PRESS: AirAsia Buys Indonesian Airline For $2
Sunday October 17

KUALA LUMPUR (Dow Jones)--Malaysia's AirAsia has bought a small Indonesian airline, AWAir, for a token $2, the Edge weekly business newspaper says.

AirAsia - which last week kicked off Malaysia's biggest initial share offer for 2004 - is buying the airline in a 49-51 partnership with unnamed Indonesian parties, the paper says, quoting anonymous sources. The report doesn't say if AirAsia must assume any debt from AWAir's previous owners.

The paper says one of AWAir's founders was former Indonesian president, Abdurrahman Wahid, who withdrew from the company after he was elected. AWAir suspended operations in March 2002 because it found competition within Indonesia's aviation industry too intense, the report adds.
 
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RE: New Indonesian LCC?

Mon Oct 18, 2004 5:27 pm

Thanks Wirraway for the working link Smile
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RE: New Indonesian LCC?

Mon Oct 18, 2004 5:37 pm

... so guess another one won't make much difference. Also most airlines there have already a LCC structure, with ticket pricing about the lowest in the world...

I guess this one IS different because it is linked up with Thai and Malaysian networks, making Air Asia the only truly regional airline. Hopefully one day AK will also start another subsidiary in the Philippines to cover the all 4 corners of Southeast Asia.

 
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RE: New Indonesian LCC?

Tue Oct 19, 2004 2:53 am


http://www.awairlines.com/

I am just wondering about the routes and fleet! the web-page is still showing daily flights! So, is AwAir still flying A310, and will them be replaced by B737?? What is their new business plan??


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RE: New Indonesian LCC?

Tue Oct 19, 2004 3:07 am

Awair already ceased opertions..

when it starts operation... it has two A310-300 operating on CGK-SUB, CGK-MES, CGK-BPN and later CGK-DPS...

on the peak of Awair operations I think it has three aircrafts, 2XA313 and 1XA306R... the airline also expands to SIN and said it will serve SIN 3X daily... although most of the time.. it served once or maybe none..

there was an incident where an A310-300 made an emergency landing at Balikpapan... the A310-300 engine was caught on fire and the emergency service spary the foam on the engine which caused severe damage.. Awair denied the incident and said that the emergency vehicle should not spray anything as the engine never caught on fire..

at the last two weeks of operations.. all A310s were returned.. and replace buy a single A320-200.. two weeks later.. the airline ceased operations..
 
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RE: New Indonesian LCC?

Tue Oct 19, 2004 3:08 am

Hopefully one day AK will also start another subsidiary in the Philippines to cover the all 4 corners of Southeast Asia.

Yes, I am hoping for this as well. Right now Air Asia flies 2x weekly to Subic Bay on charter flights... however when not full, the flight is cancelled.

I can't wait for regular scheduled service to and from Manila and/or Cebu City.
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