Moderators: jsumali2, richierich, ua900, PanAm_DC10, hOMSaR

 
airgeek12
Topic Author
Posts: 725
Joined: Tue Oct 26, 2004 8:02 am

747 Lower Galley

Tue Oct 26, 2004 8:58 am

I was watching "The Executive Decision", and is it true that a 747 has a lower galley below the main [economy] deck?
 
NWAFA
Posts: 1843
Joined: Wed Dec 31, 2003 10:30 pm

RE: 747 Lower Galley

Tue Oct 26, 2004 9:00 am

AirGeek,

When the 747 first came out it had the LL (lower lobe) galleys...Pan Am still had LL on many of the 74's. Great postion to work, it went very SR down there.

UA had LL on a couple of DC10's. AA had LL on some DC10s for a bit. TWA's L1011 and Hawaiian's L1011 had LL.
THANK YOU FOR FLYING NORTHWEST AIRLINES, WE TRULY APPRECIATE YOUR BUSINESS!
 
airgeek12
Topic Author
Posts: 725
Joined: Tue Oct 26, 2004 8:02 am

RE: 747 Lower Galley

Tue Oct 26, 2004 9:04 am

Thanks. I know the MD-80 or MD-11 had the elevators. I also know the Lufthansa A340s have elevators down to a lower-galley.
 
NWAFA
Posts: 1843
Joined: Wed Dec 31, 2003 10:30 pm

RE: 747 Lower Galley

Tue Oct 26, 2004 9:05 am

It would have to be MD11's. The -80 is too small to have LL.

THANK YOU FOR FLYING NORTHWEST AIRLINES, WE TRULY APPRECIATE YOUR BUSINESS!
 
L1011Lover
Posts: 736
Joined: Sat Oct 25, 2003 5:16 am

RE: 747 Lower Galley

Tue Oct 26, 2004 11:50 am

I might be wrong, but I´ve never heard of any MD-11 a/c with Lower Lobe Galley.

The only a/c with Lower Lobe Galleys I can think of are some early versions of the 747 (e.g. PA and UA), L1011-1, 100, 200, 250 (e.g. DL, TW, EA) the L1011-500 series all had the galleys main deck. Different versions of the DC-10, depending on what the airlines wanted to have (e.g. UA and AA used to fly DC-10 with Lower Lobe Galleys, while CO and NW for instance had the versions with main deck galleys). Also possible that some US carriers had both versions. Not sure about that, can someone confirm?

I remember Condor flying with two different DC-10 configurations. The ones with Lower Lobe Galleys which were originally delivered to Condor and bought by Omni Air International after Condor retired the type from its fleet, and the ones with the Main Deck Galleys, which came from LH and later went on to CO

And now we have the brand new LH A340-600 with the galley below!

Best regards,

L1011Lover
 
trickijedi
Posts: 3201
Joined: Sun May 13, 2001 4:35 pm

RE: 747 Lower Galley

Tue Oct 26, 2004 12:05 pm

May have been from here too http://www.airhollywood.com
Its better to be on the ground wishing you were in the air than be in the air wishing you were on the ground. Fly safe!
 
airgeek12
Topic Author
Posts: 725
Joined: Tue Oct 26, 2004 8:02 am

RE: 747 Lower Galley

Tue Oct 26, 2004 12:32 pm

Yea. It probly was. Thanks anyways- and that's an awsome site Trickijedi.  Smile
 
airgeek12
Topic Author
Posts: 725
Joined: Tue Oct 26, 2004 8:02 am

RE: 747 Lower Galley

Tue Oct 26, 2004 12:33 pm

ha! on that site, http://www.airhollywood.com, i found airplane set mock-ups from two shows and movies that I recognized!

*joe*
 
ramerinianair
Posts: 1452
Joined: Tue Nov 11, 2003 6:03 am

RE: 747 Lower Galley

Tue Oct 26, 2004 12:53 pm

NWAFA,
It was a great position to work . . . it got very SR?
What does SR mean here?
Thanks
Steve
W N = my Worst Nightmare!!!!!
 
FlyboyOz
Posts: 1764
Joined: Tue Nov 21, 2000 10:05 am

RE: 747 Lower Galley

Tue Oct 26, 2004 4:26 pm

I have spoken to a Qantas flight attendant about lower gallery on a B744s. He told me that there is no lower deck for the B744s...only in the B743s and B742s
The Spirit of AustraliAN - Longreach
 
OPNLguy
Posts: 11191
Joined: Tue Jun 15, 1999 11:29 am

RE: 747 Lower Galley

Tue Oct 26, 2004 4:51 pm

>>>What does SR mean here?

Senior, I presume, as in senority...
ALL views, opinions expressed are mine ONLY and are NOT representative of those shared by Southwest Airlines Co.
 
User avatar
DL_Mech
Posts: 2634
Joined: Fri Feb 18, 2000 7:48 am

RE: 747 Lower Galley

Tue Oct 26, 2004 7:28 pm

Pan Am still had LL on many of the 74's

Are you sure PA had lower galleys on their 747's? I know that both UA and AA had forward and aft lower galleys while QF had the forward lower galley only. I have never seen any info that PA had any.......
This plane is built to withstand anything... except a bad pilot.

Former AMT on A220,A310,A319/20/21,A330,A350,B707,B717,B727,B737,B747,B757,B767,B777,DC-9,DC-10,L-1011,
MD-80/90,MD-11
 
miami1
Posts: 650
Joined: Wed Feb 28, 2001 10:31 pm

RE: 747 Lower Galley

Tue Oct 26, 2004 8:04 pm

QF 743s did not have a lower galley. And only the older 742s (the ones with PW engines) had a lower lobe galley.
 
NWAFA
Posts: 1843
Joined: Wed Dec 31, 2003 10:30 pm

RE: 747 Lower Galley

Wed Oct 27, 2004 1:14 am

DL,

the-200's had LL on many of them.

Ramerinianair,

SR means Senior. Sorry.
THANK YOU FOR FLYING NORTHWEST AIRLINES, WE TRULY APPRECIATE YOUR BUSINESS!
 
User avatar
Starlionblue
Posts: 20641
Joined: Fri Feb 27, 2004 9:54 pm

RE: 747 Lower Galley

Wed Oct 27, 2004 1:17 am

Seem 500 miles is not the minimum if it is not AA itself. Ah well. via Nashville is still 978 miles each way Big grin
"There are no stupid questions, but there are a lot of inquisitive idiots." - John Ringo
 
OUA345
Posts: 2
Joined: Fri Jul 09, 2004 2:33 am

RE: 747 Lower Galley

Wed Oct 27, 2004 5:02 am

American Trans Air's L-1011 had a lower galley, as well as Air Transat's L-1011
 
Clipper002
Posts: 664
Joined: Wed Aug 11, 2004 4:24 am

RE: 747 Lower Galley

Wed Oct 27, 2004 5:18 am

PA never had lower lobe galleys on any of its' 747's. I don't know where the info that said they did came from but I worked on every single one of them and can assure you all of the galleys were on the main deck. The DC10-30's we inherited from NA did have lower lobe galleys and the elevators up to the main deck were always breaking. Whomever said that the galley position was a treat and went to senior f/a's has never been in a lower lobe galley. It's exactly the opposite. The junior f/a's are assigned to the dark and noisy lower lobe gallies.

Omni has a DC-10 that not only has lower lobe galleys but also had a crew rest position down there too. Don't think they still use the rest portion.

We used to have several, the last of which is now Miller beer cans. The elevator in that hadn't worked for years and replacement parts were not to be found.

Ed
Ed
 
NWAFA
Posts: 1843
Joined: Wed Dec 31, 2003 10:30 pm

RE: 747 Lower Galley

Wed Oct 27, 2004 5:19 am

Clipper,

The TransCon -200 did have LL, and it goes senior as i spend many of hours down there!~

THANK YOU FOR FLYING NORTHWEST AIRLINES, WE TRULY APPRECIATE YOUR BUSINESS!
 
Tod
Posts: 1716
Joined: Sat Aug 28, 2004 6:51 am

RE: 747 Lower Galley

Wed Oct 27, 2004 6:34 am

I might be wrong, but I´ve never heard of any MD-11 a/c with Lower Lobe Galley.

I haven't seen a galley down there, but some do have a LL crew rest.
 
airgeek12
Topic Author
Posts: 725
Joined: Tue Oct 26, 2004 8:02 am

RE: 747 Lower Galley

Wed Oct 27, 2004 7:13 am

Clipper 002:
" The junior f/a's are assigned to the dark and noisy lower lobe gallies"

--REPLY--
That may be true on the airline you worked on, but I know Lufthansa has a really nice LL galley, as the LL also has a few passenger restrooms.

P.S. I was talking abot LF's A340
 
UA772IAD
Posts: 1343
Joined: Sat Jul 10, 2004 7:43 am

RE: 747 Lower Galley

Wed Oct 27, 2004 7:37 am

Why don't airline's/modern have them anymore (except for LH 346s)? Is it they just aren't practical, or does it have to do with size issues. If the DC-10 could have them the 777, and 767 could too. Also does anyone know if UA and AA currently have crew rest areas?

 
airgeek12
Topic Author
Posts: 725
Joined: Tue Oct 26, 2004 8:02 am

RE: 747 Lower Galley

Wed Oct 27, 2004 8:22 am

I would search for the airline with the keyword "crew rest" or something like that. I have actually never seen a picture of a United crew rest area, but I have on A'A. A'A's 777s usually have the traditional 3-bed crew rest, with the f/a entertainment service for "off" hours.
 
NWAFA
Posts: 1843
Joined: Wed Dec 31, 2003 10:30 pm

RE: 747 Lower Galley

Wed Oct 27, 2004 8:26 am

I belive UA's crew rests on the 747-400 are up in the tail.

At NWA the 747-400 crew bunks are up in the tail. The -200 the bunks are in a compartment between doors 1 & 2. The A330 the bunks are below deck.
THANK YOU FOR FLYING NORTHWEST AIRLINES, WE TRULY APPRECIATE YOUR BUSINESS!
 
airgeek12
Topic Author
Posts: 725
Joined: Tue Oct 26, 2004 8:02 am

RE: 747 Lower Galley

Wed Oct 27, 2004 8:43 am

UA772IAD:

Here is a pic of the United's crew rest:

View Large View Medium
Click here for bigger photo!

Photo © Chris Barrow


It's kind of old but it gives you an idea of what it looks like. This picture was on a 744 up in the tail. This is a domestic 744 though- so it might not be the same configuration of a international version.

I couldn't find any pics. for the Northwest crew rest as far as the 747.

But of course! Every airline has to have crew rest areas! It's practicly FAA regulated :p ! (not to be rude or anything)
 
NWAFA
Posts: 1843
Joined: Wed Dec 31, 2003 10:30 pm

RE: 747 Lower Galley

Wed Oct 27, 2004 8:45 am

United has two of NWA 747-400 (actuall they are parked), the UA Flight Attendants loved working our -400, because of the crew area, we had 8 bunks instead of 6 and two seats like UA has in theirs.
THANK YOU FOR FLYING NORTHWEST AIRLINES, WE TRULY APPRECIATE YOUR BUSINESS!
 
airgeek12
Topic Author
Posts: 725
Joined: Tue Oct 26, 2004 8:02 am

RE: 747 Lower Galley

Wed Oct 27, 2004 9:03 am

NWAFA:

Just wondering, why are United's (X-Northwest's) 747-400s(!) sitting there parked and not in use!
 
NWAFA
Posts: 1843
Joined: Wed Dec 31, 2003 10:30 pm

RE: 747 Lower Galley

Wed Oct 27, 2004 9:06 am

UA has been parking -400 and or returned them...back in 1993 when NWA was having problems, we did not take the order from Boeing for these and UA took them...whats funny, NWA is looking at those two -400 to come back to NWA.
THANK YOU FOR FLYING NORTHWEST AIRLINES, WE TRULY APPRECIATE YOUR BUSINESS!
 
airgeek12
Topic Author
Posts: 725
Joined: Tue Oct 26, 2004 8:02 am

RE: 747 Lower Galley

Wed Oct 27, 2004 9:08 am

ha! that's funny! (i am writing all of this because a.net would not let me post a short post Big grin) (ok- now it worked)
 
skyhawk
Posts: 1011
Joined: Sat May 19, 2001 12:23 pm

RE: 747 Lower Galley

Wed Oct 27, 2004 9:17 am

Clipper002-I beg to differ with you!! Pan Am most certainly did have a 747 with a lower galley for Economy. I worked the galley more than once. I am not positive but I think I remember that we got the plane from American, but like I said I am not sure. We also got one from Braniff. A much different stairway in F/C that we had on most of them. Rather that the stairs that circled around, the stairs on the one from Braniff went straight down into the F/C cabin.
 
Clipper002
Posts: 664
Joined: Wed Aug 11, 2004 4:24 am

RE: 747 Lower Galley

Wed Oct 27, 2004 9:42 am

Skyhawk,
If both yourself and NWAFA say you actually flew the a/c with lower lobe galleys, I'll have to recant my statement. Do you remember the flight numbers and a/c registration of those a/c? There are 4 of us oldtimers down here at WOA and we certainly could be getting senile. Are you going to the reunion in April?

Ed
Ed
 
skyhawk
Posts: 1011
Joined: Sat May 19, 2001 12:23 pm

RE: 747 Lower Galley

Wed Oct 27, 2004 9:53 am

Sorry I don't remember the ship numbers, but as I flew FRA or NRT, and since obviously it could not have gone to NRT, it would have had to been to FRA. Mostly flew flight #72 BTW. Wish I could be more help, but back then I was not as interested in specific ship numbers as I am now.

Popular Searches On Airliners.net

Top Photos of Last:   24 Hours  •  48 Hours  •  7 Days  •  30 Days  •  180 Days  •  365 Days  •  All Time

Military Aircraft Every type from fighters to helicopters from air forces around the globe

Classic Airliners Props and jets from the good old days

Flight Decks Views from inside the cockpit

Aircraft Cabins Passenger cabin shots showing seat arrangements as well as cargo aircraft interior

Cargo Aircraft Pictures of great freighter aircraft

Government Aircraft Aircraft flying government officials

Helicopters Our large helicopter section. Both military and civil versions

Blimps / Airships Everything from the Goodyear blimp to the Zeppelin

Night Photos Beautiful shots taken while the sun is below the horizon

Accidents Accident, incident and crash related photos

Air to Air Photos taken by airborne photographers of airborne aircraft

Special Paint Schemes Aircraft painted in beautiful and original liveries

Airport Overviews Airport overviews from the air or ground

Tails and Winglets Tail and Winglet closeups with beautiful airline logos