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So Long 757

Fri Oct 29, 2004 4:04 pm

It is sad to see the 757 line come to an end. I was wanting to see what everyone thinks about boeing not stopping with the 300 but going on with a 400, 500, 600 or whatever like the 737 has done
your thoughts please
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RE: So Long 757

Fri Oct 29, 2004 4:26 pm


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Just looking at her, the 1050th 757, standing alone... What a bittersweet moment. I can't tell if she's standing tall proudly, or standing there feeling abandoned.


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Thank you Boeing for providing the world with 20+ years of 757 production. May she fly for a half century more.

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RE: So Long 757

Fri Oct 29, 2004 11:33 pm

I know the 757 will be around for quite some time, but I am still bummed out about this. The seven-five has grown to be my favorite two engined airliner over the past couple years and I was truly hoping that there would be a 757NG developed. I firmly believe that Boeing will really be kicking themselves in the future for not perusing a 757NG program. Seeing that the seven-five is the most economical single engine aircraft in the world, a NG version would have been that much more attractive.

See you around 757!!!
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RE: So Long 757

Sat Oct 30, 2004 12:09 am

Seeing that the seven-five is the most economical single engine aircraft in the world

I hope you meant "single-aisle". If airline have been flying these around with only one engine working, that could be a big problem despite the gain in fuel economy!!  Smile

I will miss the 757 as well, although it will be in first-tier airline service for many years to come.
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RE: So Long 757

Sat Oct 30, 2004 12:13 am

I agree. The 757 is my fave jetliner.

I never understood why they wouldn't make a 400+ series. I would guess that in order to revamp existing structural designs and a/c systems to bring the 757 into this new age of "fuel efficiency" a/c design it would cost Boeing more than it'd be worth.
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RE: So Long 757

Sat Oct 30, 2004 1:37 am

It is quite sad to see the 757 production line come to a close. The 757 is by far, one of the most beautiful airliners to ever grace the sky. I remember watching them land as a kid, coming by my house, they looked like an eagle, nose high, wings spread, landing gear hanging down like talons, ready to pounce onto its prey.

I did however, see a problem when I heard about Boeing stretching the 737 to an -800 series. I figured that it could be stretched further, therefore eventually competing with its own sister. Is there really an aircraft size that Boeing hasn't found?

I would really prefer to see different size 757's darting around the country as compared to 737's, but I guess we can't have everything. Not to say the 737 isn't a wonderful airplane, just not as pretty as the seven five, in my opinion.
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RE: So Long 757

Sat Oct 30, 2004 1:47 am

Carpe Pices
 
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RE: So Long 757

Sat Oct 30, 2004 2:14 am

they looked like an eagle, nose high, wings spread, landing gear hanging down like talons, ready to pounce onto its prey

I've always thought the same thing Ottopylit. The 57 is so damned good looking. Graceful and tough at the same time. They've always looked like the aircraft caricature stickers you see on flight bags and tool boxes. You know the ones with the HUGE engines and fuselage arched up in a menacing pose. They look like they'd be as suited for aerobatics displays as they are for hauling a couple hundred people around the sky. I love the 57. I love working on it. Hopefully Dl won't send all of them to Song so I'll get to keep working on them.

As for a 757NG. I think we'll have to consider the 7E7 as what the 757NG might have been. It won't be the same but I think the 7E7 will be a winner among airplane enthusiasts for it's own grace and beauty.

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RE: So Long 757

Sat Oct 30, 2004 4:09 am

Richierich,

You're right! LOL Sorry about the typo folks.  Laugh out loud

Glad to see there are others out there upset with the 757's demise. One last version I would have loved to have seen would have been a BBJ3. A 757 with 7,200+ nm range. Now that would have been sweeeeet.
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RE: So Long 757

Sat Oct 30, 2004 4:25 am

So long
we shall miss you
I've enjoyed
many great rides in you

You were long
thin and hard
but that didn't put me
on guard

757, I'll miss you
boo hoo hoo.
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RE: So Long 757

Sat Oct 30, 2004 4:37 am

Will definately miss the hot rod...
 
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RE: So Long 757

Sat Oct 30, 2004 7:33 am

Not to put a damper here or anything, since I love the '57 too.

If airlines would buy it they'd still be building it. Plain and simple economics.

I never understood why they wouldn't make a 400+ series. I would guess that in order to revamp existing structural designs and a/c systems to bring the 757 into this new age of "fuel efficiency" a/c design it would cost Boeing more than it'd be worth.

See above, they didn't build it, because no one wanted it, other than plane nuts like us. As for the BBJ3, same thing, although if I had that kind of money there'd be a '57 in MY driveway (so to speak).

Well at least she'll still be flying for a long time to come.
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RE: So Long 757

Sat Oct 30, 2004 4:18 pm

"I did however, see a problem when I heard about Boeing stretching the 737 to an -800 series."

Exactly. As Boeing increased capacity and range in the bigger 737NG models, the 757 became largely redundant for too many airlines. Flying a Continental 738 wasn't a lot different than their 752 I'd tried earlier, except that the 738 had "cozy" 6-abreast seating instead of the 752's more reasonable 5-abreast arrangement. The ride was similar and the fully loaded 738 easily spanned the country from EWR to SEA, formerly something only 757s, not 737s, did. Although 757s still have the edge in capability, it's an edge carriers today generally don't need. And the 737-900X, if launched, will nearly equal the 757-200 in both capacity and range. It's a real shame the 753 wasn't successful; it seemed at launch to be a good bet, economics-wise, due to improved seat-mile costs and much increased cargo capacity. But I guess the fairly long passenger boarding/deboarding time and reduced range rendered it less than desirable, for most. Oh well, at least the 757's robust design will be in the air for many years to come. Farewell to yet another great, beautiful airplane...  Crying
 
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RE: So Long 757

Sun Oct 31, 2004 1:27 am

Thanks for the kind words Dl757md. I am glad to know I wasn't the only one who noticed the plane like that.


"Flying a Continental 738 wasn't a lot different than their 752 I'd tried earlier, except that the 738 had "cozy" 6-abreast seating instead of the 752's more reasonable 5-abreast arrangement.

CO has 5 abreast arrangement on their 752's? Dang, Delta has 6 abreast on their 75's. Every time I have flown CO, I always end up on a 737 somehow. Man, a 757 in 5 abreast configuration would rock, much like MD-80/90 feeling, a wider aisle. And if the 757 had a 4 abreast configuration, that would be the awesomest airplane ever.
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RE: So Long 757

Sun Oct 31, 2004 1:45 am

Too bad,I love the 75. I remember flying Eastern to MCO in the late 80's and parying that a 757 would be at the gate because I never was on a plane that big. I didn't get a chance tp fly on 75 until October 2000 when I flew UA ORD-SEA (was booked on DC-10 on purpose but was changed to a 757).
Since then I've been on UA 757's MIA-ORD,SFO-SNA,SNA-ORD,LAS-IAD and ORD-LAS and I put me trust in the Pratt & Whitney gods for a trip over the ocean to Lihue,Hawaii.
So long 75!
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RE: So Long 757

Sun Oct 31, 2004 1:59 am

that tall nose and front gear is about the only way to tell them apart. Just about everything else looks like a 737 on steroids......even airbus is begining to all look alike except for the 340. I liked the different styles the md-11 l-10-11 dc-8... you could easily recognize them. I laughed when airtrans wanted to stretch the 717... do you realize how many times that dc-9 has been stretched,all those series starting with the 10 up to th 90.....can you imagine a whole new series of 717s for the next 30 years...
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RE: So Long 757

Mon Nov 01, 2004 10:43 am

I have been on the 757 several times. Compliments to American, Continental and Delta. It is without a doubt one of my favorite A/C second only to the mighty Triple7.

In my view it is a superior Aircraft to any of the NG aircraft 'pretenders to it's throne' and it's very sad to see it go like this.

Boeing may want to re-think this one over...maybe an upgraded model or something. I only hope the 7E7 will do justice as a replacement.
 
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RE: So Long 757

Mon Nov 01, 2004 12:38 pm

Five abreast in a 757? Like to see an airline with that configuration, No airline I know of has such a roomy layout. PLease let me know who it is for my future travel plans.
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RE: So Long 757

Tue Nov 02, 2004 9:26 pm

Another little thing that I find interesting is that the 757, outside of the -300 series, never recieved a major upgrade in it's history. IE, cockpit upgrades, aerodynamics improvements, etc. Hell, the 767 got the -400 at least. With winglets and possible 7E7 technology beginning to emerge, I wonder what kind of economic improvements would have occured. Like I mentioned in another post. Boeing could have started a 757NG program with seven-fives that would have/could have held 150, 200 and 250 passengers. There have to be some airlines/charters that would have been interested in such an aircraft.

My 2 Cents.

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RE: So Long 757

Tue Nov 02, 2004 9:40 pm

It's a shame i never rode on 757s much...just 2 times on DELTA and 2 times on British airways.... we dont get much 757 traffic in IST. Sometimes Iberia sends out a 757, Istanbul Airlines was the only turkish carrier that flew one, and birgenair lost theirs in an accident. other than that....no 757.
The one i flew on delta was an empty flight, from BDL-MCO in freezing weather...we lifted off in 10 seconds....wow

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RE: So Long 757

Mon Nov 08, 2004 8:29 am

I have always wondered what the 737NG line would look like if they adopted the "more modern" cockpit section of the 757. With the demise of the 757 line, why couldnt they splice that beautiful nose onto the 737?
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RE: So Long 757

Mon Nov 08, 2004 8:43 am

I, too, will dearly miss the 757 series. When she was making her maiden flights back in the early 80s I was living in Seattle, just north of Boeing Field, so would often see the 757s gracing the skies. Fortunately, I've had the opportunity to fly on several of them as well (DL, AA, NW), and loved 'em!

Living in Des Moines now, I at least get to see the cargo version with the UPS 2nd Day Air hub that operates out of DSM. A beautiful bird in just about any livery. So long . . .  Crying
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RE: So Long 757

Mon Nov 08, 2004 8:48 am

BA and EA started the production line going, and then after a long period, UA, AA, and DL placed big orders! 20-plus years is certainly a "good run"!
 
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RE: So Long 757

Mon Nov 08, 2004 9:09 am

BA and EA started the production line going, and then after a long period, UA, AA, and DL placed big orders! 20-plus years is certainly a "good run"!

Indeed, I also remember Eastern having the tails emblazoned with large blue "757" numerals. Looked very distinctive!  Smile
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RE: So Long 757

Mon Nov 08, 2004 9:34 am

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