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Southwest's 2-Letter Code

Tue Nov 02, 2004 9:03 pm

Hey Everyone...

Did a search but came up empty...is there a significance to 'WN" as Southwest's 2-letter code?.....does is stand for something and how did they come up with that?

I know SW is Air Namibia.....just wondering...

Thanks for any info.
 
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RE: Southwest's 2-Letter Code

Tue Nov 02, 2004 9:31 pm

I have no clue but maybe SW was taken by Namibia Airlines before Southwest came along so they had to use WN. who knows.
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RE: Southwest's 2-Letter Code

Tue Nov 02, 2004 10:01 pm

Rumor was for when they started it stood for Were Nuts = WN!
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RE: Southwest's 2-Letter Code

Wed Nov 03, 2004 12:14 am


Are airlines allowed to choose from available codes or create their own when starting up?

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RE: Southwest's 2-Letter Code

Wed Nov 03, 2004 12:38 am

I believe it is up to the IATA, but if a code is available, I bet you can request it. Problem is, most logical 2 letter codes are already in use.

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RE: Southwest's 2-Letter Code

Wed Nov 03, 2004 12:41 am

Its the opposite of Northwest (NW) Southwest (WN)
 
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RE: Southwest's 2-Letter Code

Wed Nov 03, 2004 12:52 am

"Its the opposite of Northwest (NW) Southwest (WN)"

But the opposite of NW is Southeast, or at least it is on the compass I use  Smile/happy/getting dizzy
 
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RE: Southwest's 2-Letter Code

Wed Nov 03, 2004 1:02 am

Slightly off-topic, but I like how Aeroflot (SU) is the opposite of US!
 
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RE: Southwest's 2-Letter Code

Wed Nov 03, 2004 1:07 am

if i ever own an airline, our code is going to be FU.

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RE: Southwest's 2-Letter Code

Wed Nov 03, 2004 1:09 am

SU for Soviet Union ? Why HP for America West? or F9 for Frontier?
Some codes could be from previous names of airlines, or parts of merged entities, geographic references.

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RE: Southwest's 2-Letter Code

Wed Nov 03, 2004 1:12 am

FU was Air Littoral, I wonder if AF will let you use the code?
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RE: Southwest's 2-Letter Code

Wed Nov 03, 2004 1:50 am

This question has come up before, and from what I recall of the research I did for one of those past threads, "WN" was just an arbitrary assignment. The freight outfit Seaboard World (long since defunct) had "SW", and after they went under, Southwest had no pressing need or desire to spend the money to obtain "SW" and it was reassigned elsewhere.
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RE: Southwest's 2-Letter Code

Thu Nov 04, 2004 1:32 am

WN stands for "Wer'e Nuts".

Read the book "Nuts" and you'll get a better underastanding of WN's philosophy. It's written by Herb Kelleher, WN's President.
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RE: Southwest's 2-Letter Code

Thu Nov 04, 2004 1:58 am

>>>It's written by Herb Kelleher, WN's President.

Actually, although Herb is on the cover, the book was written by Kevin and Jackie Freiberg...

http://www.amazon.com/gp/reader/0767901843/ref=sib_dp_pt/104-4318289-5394369#reader-link
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RE: Southwest's 2-Letter Code

Thu Nov 04, 2004 4:00 am

As stated before, WN means "We're Nuts," a term Kelleher came up with.
 
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RE: Southwest's 2-Letter Code

Thu Nov 04, 2004 4:48 am

>>>As stated before, WN means "We're Nuts," a term Kelleher came up with.

Sounds nice, but considering that Southwest has had the WN code since day-1 (1967 incorporation and/or 1971 first flight) and the Nuts! book was just published in 1996, the statement doesn't hold true...

An original (1971) flight ops specialist (now retired) advised me that WN was a random assignment, and was not specifically requested, despite all the rumors to the contrary...





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RE: Southwest's 2-Letter Code

Thu Nov 04, 2004 4:55 am

https://www.airliners.net/discussions/general_aviation/read.main/1786984

A lot of the airline code questions that have been brought up in this thread were previously answered in the above thread from a few weeks back.
 
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RE: Southwest's 2-Letter Code

Thu Nov 04, 2004 5:39 am

hp for america west comes from when they received their air certificate, they bought it from the defunct hawaiian pacific
 
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RE: Southwest's 2-Letter Code

Thu Nov 04, 2004 6:15 am

HP = Happy People.  Smile
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RE: Southwest's 2-Letter Code

Thu Nov 04, 2004 7:17 am

HP = Hub Pheonix, is another popular one I have read for America West but I think the Hawaiian Pacific is more correct.
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RE: Southwest's 2-Letter Code

Thu Nov 04, 2004 7:35 am

Horizon picked they're code from a list. They found the one code that looked the most bizzare, and adopted it. Smile
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RE: Southwest's 2-Letter Code

Thu Nov 04, 2004 9:18 am

Airways did ask the Southwest president on the issue of where "WN" came from a couple issues back, and she did lay out it was just a random assignment. Nothing special regardless of what anyone wants to believe.
 
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RE: Southwest's 2-Letter Code

Thu Nov 04, 2004 9:47 am

In reference to the link from other discussions on codes, does anybody know why ANA is NH? I speak Japanese, and I suspect NH is for Nihon (NiHon) which means "Japan" in Japanese. Anyone know if I'm right?
 
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RE: Southwest's 2-Letter Code

Thu Nov 04, 2004 10:23 am

>>>Nothing special regardless of what anyone wants to believe.

That sure won't stop anyone though...  Big grin
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RE: Southwest's 2-Letter Code

Thu Nov 04, 2004 12:33 pm

When I was in CSA training I remember the two letter code for southwest by saying "Will Not" .....as in "Will Not" cooperate with anyone!!! (as far as interlining baggage and ticket agreements go...)

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RE: Southwest's 2-Letter Code

Thu Nov 04, 2004 12:46 pm

>> >>>As stated before, WN means "We're Nuts," a term Kelleher came up with.

Sounds nice, but considering that Southwest has had the WN code since day-1 (1967 incorporation and/or 1971 first flight) and the Nuts! book was just published in 1996, the statement doesn't hold true...

An original (1971) flight ops specialist (now retired) advised me that WN was a random assignment, and was not specifically requested, despite all the rumors to the contrary... <<

I know OPNL Guy won't argue with me about my slightly distorted view of history.

The original two letter designator for Southwest Airlines Co. was "OE".

SW was, in fact, already taken.

A year or thereabouts after inaugurating service in 1971, they kept their eye on the list of "availables" for something with a "W" in it.

They grabbed WN.

Had nothing to do with "We're Nuts" and, as the historical revisionists would just as soon not tell you, all Kelleher did in those early days was lawyer. He had nothing at all to do with operations or the planning thereof.

In fact, had WN taken his sage advice, they would have opened up Austin as city #4 instead of Harlingen.

If you have read "Southwest Passage" you might realize just how important to Southwest the little bitty rinky dink station of HRL has been over the years.

But to confirm OPNL_Guy = nothing to do with "We're Nuts".

To contradict him = yes, the choice of WN was somewhat random....they wanted something...anything....with a W.

But it wasn't the original two letter code. That was OE.

 
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RE: Southwest's 2-Letter Code

Thu Nov 04, 2004 12:58 pm

Western airlines, that was purchased by Dl what was there code...i was thinking it was wn at one time....but thats been so long ago
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RE: Southwest's 2-Letter Code

Thu Nov 04, 2004 2:48 pm

>>Western airlines, that was purchased by Dl what was there code...i was thinking it was wn at one time....but thats been so long ago<<

Western's 2 letter code was WA.

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RE: Southwest's 2-Letter Code

Thu Nov 04, 2004 7:14 pm

SW used by Namibia comes from the former name of that country: South West Africa.
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RE: Southwest's 2-Letter Code

Thu Nov 04, 2004 7:24 pm

In reference to the link from other discussions on codes, does anybody know why ANA is NH? I speak Japanese, and I suspect NH is for Nihon (NiHon) which means "Japan" in Japanese. Anyone know if I'm right?

I believe ANA originally used to be "Nippon Helicopters".
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RE: Southwest's 2-Letter Code

Thu Nov 04, 2004 7:27 pm

>>>I know OPNL Guy won't argue with me about my slightly distorted view of history.

Not in the least, since you pre-date me there, not to mention the caliber of your info being so much better...  Big grin

Consider me corrected...  Big grin

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