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ktachiya
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Fedex MD-10

Sat Nov 06, 2004 4:23 pm

I heard that Fedex has converted a considerable amount of DC-10 into the high-tech cockpits. Isn't this super expensive? I think I read 80 or so DC-10's got converted.

I also heard that JL is in the midst of upgrading their 743. I don't know if they are getting better navigation systems but are the converting to two men cockpits?
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RE: Fedex MD-10

Sun Nov 07, 2004 6:30 am

Pretty much by converting their DC-10s to the MD-10 standards, FX accomplished the following:

Reduction in crew members needed per flight. By going to the 2-man cockpit of the MD-11 (Installation of the MD-11 cockpit is one of the aspects of the MD-10 conversion), you do away with the need for the Flight Engineer, and thereby cut costs.

Upgrade the a/c with the latest technology. You're going to have to upgrade the avionics at some point if you're intending to keep using the a/c for more than a few years. Plus with the MD-11 style flight deck, future upgrades are easier. With the additional computers involved with the newer flight deck, you do away with the duties that were primarily assigned to the F.E.

Plus with FX also flying the MD-11, pilots can be jointly type-rated on the MD-10 and MD-11, thereby reducing the size of your pilot pool.

Some additional MD-10 conversion info:
http://www.boeing.com/news/releases/mdc/96-231.html
http://www.boeing.com/commercial/aeromagazine/aero_02/textonly/ps02txt.html
 
ha763
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RE: Fedex MD-10

Sun Nov 07, 2004 10:05 am

JAL is just upgrading the avionics. The 743s will still require a FE.
 
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RE: Fedex MD-10

Sun Nov 07, 2004 5:27 pm

Fedex "scaled backl" the program in 2001, incurring millions in charges to cut the program. At the time, things were slowing for FedEx, and they needed to cut capital expenditures. What is unclear to me is whether they restarted the program subsequently. It is also not clear to me how many DC10s were actually converted before the scaling back of the program.

All the best,

Bill
 
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RE: Fedex MD-10

Sun Nov 07, 2004 5:39 pm

Actually, looking at the latest 10K, it looks like FedEx ultimately converted 27 DC10-10s and 5 DC10-30s to the MD10 configuration. Remaining DC10s are 39 DC10-10s and 17 DC10-30s, including 13 DC10-10s which are not in service and are awaiting conversion from pax to freight configuration.

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ktachiya
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RE: Fedex MD-10

Sun Nov 07, 2004 6:23 pm

According to what I read. The range of the MD-10 is 6000 km. Is this enough to fly from ANC to NRT? I think that is the closest location. I know that they have extensive networks in ICN and HKG but..........

Thanks for everyone's contribution

ktachiya
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RE: Fedex MD-10

Sun Nov 07, 2004 7:02 pm

ANC-NRT is 5526KM, so the plane should make it. I actually read something about how the different handling characteristics of the MD-11 and DC-10, particularly on landing, were alarming people about giving them the same type rating. Anyone know more? I believe it had something to do with the MD-11 being significantly faster on landing and a bit twitchier
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ktachiya
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RE: Fedex MD-10

Mon Nov 08, 2004 5:13 am

I hear about the fast approach speed of the MD-11. I heard pilots needed a lot of skills when the old Kai Tak airport was there and they had to make the HKG curve.
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