Goose/Baron Midair Collision Photos!

wingnutmn · Fri Dec 10, 2004 1:59 pm

I got an email from my dad that shows 3 pictures of what is left of a Beech Baron that had a midair collision with a goose. It ripped the roof right off the plane over the right side of the fuselage. I have a problem though. I don't know how to get the pictures up on this site. They are a jpeg, so if someone could help me out, I would love to show these pictures!

WingnutMN

pilottim747 · Fri Dec 10, 2004 3:40 pm

If you want to e-mail them over I can put them up on my website and like to them here. Anything to help out a fellow UNDer.

pilottim747
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JetCaptain · Fri Dec 10, 2004 10:08 pm

It wasn't a goose, it was a Cessna 180.

http://www.avweb.com/newspics/baronmidair1.jpg

http://www.avweb.com/newspics/baronmidair2.jpg

http://www.avweb.com/newspics/baronmidair3.jpg

http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/brief.asp?ev_id=20040124X00105&key=1

JC

bananaboy · Fri Dec 10, 2004 10:13 pm

The Cessna pilot was killed?

That's terrible. Looks pretty nasty to me.

Mark

Blackhawk144 · Fri Dec 10, 2004 10:47 pm

Wait, if the pilot was killed, how'd it get on the ground ok?

Anthony

JetCaptain · Fri Dec 10, 2004 11:22 pm

"The Cessna was destroyed, and its airline transport certificated pilot was fatally injured. The Beech was substantially damaged, and its private pilot received minor injuries."

dl757md · Fri Dec 10, 2004 11:23 pm

Wait, if the pilot was killed, how'd it get on the ground ok?

The Baron is the plane in the pics. The pilot of the Cessna(plane that collided with the Baron) was killed.

corey07850 · Sat Dec 11, 2004 12:45 am

I would certainly not call these pictures "Awesome"....

BIGBlack · Sat Dec 11, 2004 1:17 am

Yea if no one was hurt maybe. But a death is a sad day.

AGrayson514 · Sat Dec 11, 2004 6:09 am

Awsome doesn't mean great or good, it means awe inspiring...in either a wonderful or an awful way. I'd say these pictures should be enough to cause awe and instill a certain respect for aviation.

wingnutmn · Sat Dec 11, 2004 6:16 am

I didn't know that it was a midair collision, all I got was the email with the title goose and baron collide in flight. Sorry for the loss of the pilot of the C180. I still think that the pictures are awesome though. It is amazing to see that baron still landed.

WingnutMN

JAGflyer · Sat Dec 11, 2004 8:24 am

LOL!! I thought you meant an animal Goose hit and damaged that Cessna! Boy am I stupid!

alberchico · Sat Dec 11, 2004 8:34 am

Awesome is a horrible word for a accident that resulted in a loss of life.I'm sure that the people who knew the deceased would not appreciate your calling it awesome Pissed

OPNLguy · Sat Dec 11, 2004 8:36 am

From the last line in the NTSB blurb...

"The Beech pilot observed a dirt airstrip near his location, and he made a precautionary landing."

Well, duh... With the new big gaping hole in his aircraft, it's not like he'd have thought "Oh, I can probably make it to my destination like this..." Big grin

bigphilnyc · Sat Dec 11, 2004 8:38 am

Well, I think it's pretty obvious that among the surviving pilot's injuries were at least a bad head gash, as you cna see the blood on the back of the left seat.

-Phil

Blackhawk144 · Sat Dec 11, 2004 9:38 am

I looked at the pictures too quick. Doh! Sorry about that, try to not let that happen again. I know what the Cessna 180 looks like, I even got a chance to fly one during a flying lesson. It was a dumb mistake, and I should've recognized it. Please don't argue over it. You can delete it if you want.

Anthony

MD11LuxuryLinr · Sat Dec 11, 2004 9:47 am

JAGflyer, I thought the same thing.. Big grin

As far as awesome being used in the title.. The word doesn't always have to be used in a positive way. The definition of 'awesome' is a condition of causing awe. I was awed and amazed by those photos. Sad though.

flyingchoirboy · Sat Dec 11, 2004 12:01 pm

AGrayson, that comment of yours, however true it may be, is quite inappropriate. I don't comment on many of these topics (especially not complain) but that comment was out of line. Whoever put that name on the topic should be ashamed of themselves.

May the victim who died rest in peace

N766UA · Sat Dec 11, 2004 12:59 pm

Always a good reminder to keep your eyes out for traffic!

hmmmm... · Sat Dec 11, 2004 1:12 pm

N766UA, you're a GA pilot. That is something I would like to know: What keeps GA aircraft like these two apart - other than luck that's not supposed to run out? Is it just scanning the horizon and hoping that you don't get ambushed by another plane sooner or later? How effective is that?

It must be hard to see tiny dots on the horizon, especially if they are in the sun, off to the side, in the distant clouds, behind you, whether they are climbing, descending, what altitude they are at, or if you can even tell at all which direction they are going. I don't know why mid-airs don't happen everyday among these little planes, especially considering that air routes would tend to group them together along certain paths.

Blackhawk144 · Sat Dec 11, 2004 1:34 pm

I agree with Hmmmm... fully, there are so many distractions that you just cannot look all around all of the time.

Anthony

N766UA · Sun Dec 12, 2004 4:28 am

Actually, there are techniques one must practice both during the day and at night that enhance one's ability to spot traffic. Using peripheral vision is one method, as is "quick scanning" where you look 10 degrees at a time rather than just a smooth scan all the way around. Pilots are taught that it is difficult to see traffic if you're looking right at it.

However, apart from being in controlled airspace, luck, fate, and a watchful eye are about all that separate aircraft.

hmmmm... · Sun Dec 12, 2004 2:39 pm

Thanks 766UA, that's about what I thought. Yikes.

In southern California, they call some heavy traffic areas "Indian country" because of the multitude of small aircraft buzzing about with such names; Seminoles, Warriors, Commanches, Apaches, etc.. Don't get scalped like the poor sucker in this thread. Be extra careful out there. But I guess that's the insidious part of the danger. That even if you are properly vigilant yourself, there are scenarios where the blindness of another pilot negates your vigilance - and kills you anyway.

cedarjet · Sun Dec 12, 2004 2:48 pm

What can make it difficult to spot other traffic is that someone who's on a collision course won't move in relation to you - so the more dangerous your respective trajectories are, the harder it will be to detect with a v1.0 eyeball. A moving target will get your attention, but won't be as likely to become a danger.