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Aloha Airlines: Airing It Out...

Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2005 5:00 am
by kalakaua
Aloha Air CEO is
making his moves

by Dave Segal

Highlights from an interview yesterday with Aloha Airlines President and Chief Executive David Banmiller, who is seeking to bring the airline out of Chapter 11 bankruptcy:

» The airline is adding two daily flights to Orange County, Calif., one from Maui and the other from Honolulu; it is also adding a Honolulu flight to San Diego. The new flights begin April 3.

» Aloha also is eliminating Hawaii flights to Burbank, Calif., on April 3 and Burbank-Reno, Nev., on Feb. 1. It is discontinuing Honolulu service to Vancouver, Canada, on April 11.

» The airline lost about $24 million in 2004.

The rest of the article also mentions 732 replacement, thinking about flying to Chicago-Midway, etc...: http://starbulletin.com/2005/01/22/news/story13.html


RE: Aloha Airlines: Airing It Out...

Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2005 5:41 am
by aloha73g
Sounds like a really good start. The new OGG/HNL-SNA are redeyes...that should increase their aircraft utilization. I am also impressed with the attitudes of the employees too. I hope they keep fighting for DCA and give MDW a try. Aloha is gonna come out of this really strong it seems.

Aloha!

RE: Aloha Airlines: Airing It Out...

Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2005 5:47 am
by Trvlr
Disappointing to see them leave Vancouver, but I suppose competition from Air Canada was too intense. The use of HNL as a stopover for AC's flight to Australia probably meant a lot of excess capacity.

For those who are interested, the new flights to SAN and SNA are already loaded into the schedules. Flight 472 leaves Honolulu at 8:18am and arrives in San Diego at 4:42pm. Flight 471 leaves SAN at 5:55pm and arrives at HNL at 8:56pm.

Aaron G.

RE: Aloha Airlines: Airing It Out...

Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2005 9:44 am
by Bluewave 707
Great to see that AQ's strategy includes more flights to SNA. Too bad for YVR and BUR, but business is business. No profits? Bye-bye! SAN sounds like a good fit for AQ as well. Wonder if they're considering a second flight to LAS?

What sounds great to me is the HNL-SNA red-eye (if there is one). However, driving up to L.A. would suck, because you would be hitting rush-hour traffic going north.

As far as eastward expansion ... MDW and DCA? It's a start, who knows where they could expand to after that? LGA? The key would be secondary airports, like what they did in California. AQ also code-shares with UA and their network on some flights, this could also boost AQ as well.

Did you all catch the part about the 717? Granted, it's contingent on how fast they get out of bankruptcy. Interesting!?! The question is ... are there at least 10 used 712s in the desert they could lease? Or would (or could) Boeing keep the 712 line open to complete new builds for AQ? Hmm ...

RE: Aloha Airlines: Airing It Out...

Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2005 10:20 am
by aloha73g
Yes, there is a redeye.....the schedules are loaded into the res system. I think the HNL one arrives in SNA at 8:15am.

Aloha!

RE: Aloha Airlines: Airing It Out...

Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2005 10:45 am
by aloha73g
Here is the new SNA Schedule:
AQ494 OGG-SNA Dep:10:40 am Arr:6:44 pm
AQ486 KOA-SNA Dep:11:40 am Arr:7:48 pm
AQ482 HNL-SNA Dep:11:55 am Arr:8:14 pm
AQ484 OGG-SNA Dep:2:00 pm Arr:10:04 pm
AQ488 HNL-SNA Dep:11:55 pm Arr:8:14 am

AQ493 SNA-OGG Dep: 7:30 am Arr:10:10 am
AQ485 SNA-KOA Dep: 8:30 am Arr:11:12 am
AQ483 SNA-OGG Dep: 9:30 am Arr:12:10 pm
AQ481 SNA-HNL Dep:10:30 am Arr:1:23 pm
AQ487 SNA-HNL Dep: 8:00 pm Arr:10:53 pm

And here is the new SAN Schedule:
AQ472 HNL-SAN Dep: 8:18 am Arr:4:42 pm
AQ476 OGG-SAN Dep:11:35 am Arr:7:34 pm

AQ475 SAN-OGG Dep: 9:51 am Arr:12:45 pm
AQ471 SAN-HNL Dep: 5:55 pm Arr:8:56 pm


Note:
**The HNL-SNA Red-Eye
**The HNL-SAN-HNL flight with times that are quite different from HA's HNL-SAN-HNL service






RE: Aloha Airlines: Airing It Out...

Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2005 10:55 am
by N1120A
Man, the dropping of the BUR flights is going to annoy several people I know. Well, I guess WN will have one more gate to play with there. I am still amazed they can launch the 73G from SNA and go to HNL and OGG.

RE: Aloha Airlines: Airing It Out...

Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2005 3:04 pm
by Bluewave 707
I've seen WN 737s rocket out of BUR from Universal Studios in Hollywood, pretty steep climb angle.

Wonder if AQ considered a red-eye to OAK? And LAS?

RE: Aloha Airlines: Airing It Out...

Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2005 3:17 pm
by airgeek12
That's very cool. I hope they will be able to get out of chap. 11.

RE: Aloha Airlines: Airing It Out...

Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2005 5:05 pm
by ual747den
This is an off question, How long is a flight from SNA to HNL and the other way around?

RE: Aloha Airlines: Airing It Out...

Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2005 6:03 pm
by aloha73g
All west coast to Hawai'i flights (SEA, PDX, SFO, LA, etc.) are between 4 and 6 hours depending on time of year and weather. Usually westbound (to Hawai'i) is longer and eastbound (from Hawai'i) is shorter. My longest flight to Hawai'i was SNA-OGG on AQ at 6:27 (Dec. 2003).

My shortest flight from Hawai'i was HNL-SFO on DL at 3:45 (Jan. 2003). Pretty much everything else is in-between with 5 hours as a good average.

Aloha!

RE: Aloha Airlines: Airing It Out...

Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2005 11:46 pm
by N659AA
Wonder if they're considering a second flight to LAS?

I am sure Banemiller and co. are considering everything. With the recenet ATA announcement of LAS-HNL startup, AQ may be a little shy about adding a second trip in this market.

I like HNL-SAN, but I think HNL-SNA #2 and OGG-SNA #2 will only do well in the summer. We shall see....

RE: Aloha Airlines: Airing It Out...

Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2005 12:28 pm
by Carfield
Thanks for the post about AQ's future!

I guess it is only logical to add flights on strong markets and reduce or cancel those weaker flights.

However, I am curious what inflight products AQ plan to cut? AQ till today maintains a really high level of inflight service and it will be sad to see that being taken away especially AQ flies into a relatively high end markets like SNA.

I am also wondering if the relatively high costs of operating Boeing 737-200 also costs this Chapter 11 filing... I guess AQ has to replace those Classic Boeings down the road. They are still wonderful to fly in but economically, it must not be working out too well.

Good luck, Aloha!

Carfield