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Gimli Glider

Wed Feb 02, 2005 7:04 am

Hello,

My Dad was asking me how long/far did the Air Canada 767 (The Gimli Glider) fly with both engines off?

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RE: Gimli Glider

Wed Feb 02, 2005 7:08 am

google is your friend (it's the first hit).

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RE: Gimli Glider

Wed Feb 02, 2005 7:31 am

Ahhhh....the Gimli Glider thread again!  Laugh out loud A search on A-net will yield MANY threads over the past year or so.

Quick answer is Ottawa to western Ontario...the F/O was based at a Canadian Air Force base at Gimli and knew of the airstrip there. That's why Gimli was chosen for the landing site.
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RE: Gimli Glider

Wed Feb 02, 2005 7:58 am

As an aside to the oft-repeated Glider question, C-GAUN is still in service, correct?

How old a plane is it and are there any plans for it to be placed in a museum upon retirement, whenever that happens, due to its "celebrity" status?

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RE: Gimli Glider

Wed Feb 02, 2005 8:01 am

are there any plans for it to be placed in a museum upon retirement, whenever that happens, due to its "celebrity" status?

This is a great suggestion. It'd be sad if it survives the glide, only to be trashed by a large bulldozer.

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RE: Gimli Glider

Wed Feb 02, 2005 8:01 am

C-GAUN fin 604 is still in service today.....
 
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RE: Gimli Glider

Wed Feb 02, 2005 8:33 am

C-GAUN certainly did not glide all the way from ottawa to western Ontario!

The story I have read indicated that it glided something like 23-30 statue miles, 36-48 km... But I also read that the glide ratio was at one point about 11:1, so it could conceivably have been a fair bit more than that. 11:1 ratio from 41,000 feet would give an absolute maximum of about 80 miles.
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RE: Gimli Glider

Wed Feb 02, 2005 8:42 am

Jean Leloup: Yes...of course you're right...thanks for clarifying that! I wasn't thinking when I hit the post button.  Nuts. It took off under normal circumstances from YOW (though I don't think it was refueled while it was there) and eventually ran out of fuel over western Ontario.

Perhaps it was here, but I seem to recall that C-GAUN would be flown to Gimli when it's retired and will become part of a museum exhibit there? Or is that wishful thinking?
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RE: Gimli Glider

Wed Feb 02, 2005 9:49 am

Retiring C-GAUN to a museum at Gimli or even WCAM in YWG would be excellent ideas. Of all 767s, this is certainly one to preserve.

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RE: Gimli Glider

Wed Feb 02, 2005 10:12 am

604 is slated to be painted in the new colors in Jan of 2006, so as of right now, there are no plans to retire her. I know things could change, but it's nice to see that we will be keeping her in the air for a while.
I agree, 604 should be put in a museum when it is retired.
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RE: Gimli Glider

Wed Feb 02, 2005 9:13 pm

Along with the DHL A300 Incident [Fire after being shot at in Baghdad],Its one of the great tales of Survival in Aviation.
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RE: Gimli Glider

Thu Feb 03, 2005 1:34 am

Did the AirTransat A330 glide farther before finding an US airbase off Portugal?
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RE: Gimli Glider

Thu Feb 03, 2005 7:32 am

I believe the Air Transat 330 glided nearly 100 miles before landing in the Azores.
 
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RE: Gimli Glider

Thu Feb 03, 2005 7:42 am

I'd like to see the Gimli Glider preserved as well. But realistically why would AC care? I mean it wasn't exactly a shining moment for AC was it...

Give it to the race track at Gimli if they can take care of it. As there is a suitable, and 767 proven, airstrip at the track, they wouldn't have to disassemble it to get it there.  Smile/happy/getting dizzy
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RE: Gimli Glider

Thu Feb 03, 2005 7:47 am

There was a book written about this flight. It is called Freefall by William and Marilyn Mona Hoffer.It was published by St Martins Paperbacks in 1989.
 
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RE: Gimli Glider

Thu Feb 03, 2005 9:26 am

The aircraft in question (The Gimli Glider, C-GAUN) 762 is AC's third oldest active aircraft (del. March 1983), in fact their star alliance 762 is the oldest aircraft in their current fleet (del. Oct 1982). Man. These Boeings sure are worth every penny of their cost.


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Does the repainting of the Gimli Glider mean when can see it stay in service for a few more years ?

I would personally like to see the aviation museum in Ottawa or the YYZ airport make room for the Glider so that A.net fanatics can see it. Sending it to Gimli (as good as it may sound) perhaps isn't the best thing AC can do. MY two cents.

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RE: Gimli Glider

Thu Feb 03, 2005 10:48 am

And what is the story behind the L-1011 that glided with faulty O-Rings from somewhwere in the Carribian to an airport in Florida, little oil, only to start its engines so as to land safely. Two great stories.
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RE: Gimli Glider

Thu Feb 03, 2005 11:03 am

OK, what is the 2nd story -- about the gliding L-1011?
 
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RE: Gimli Glider

Thu Feb 03, 2005 12:33 pm

L-1011 story:

Mechanic is assigned to change magnetic oil chip detectors on all three L-1011 engines. O-rings are normally preinstalled for the mechanics on the new chip detectors, but not this time and our hero, the mechanic, does not notice when he draws them from supply.

Aircraft departs Miami for Bermuda (?). Shortly thereafter eng # 2 (?) shows severe oil loss and is shutdown. In a few minutes #1 & 3 also show problems, but crew is reluctant to shutdown. Aircraft is now heading back to Miami. Crew declares emergency. Engines 1 & 3 crap out altogether. Ditching now imminent. Crew cannot restart 1 or 3, but gets 2 going before ditching is necessary. Aircraft lands at Miami with one, sick and oil less, engine.

NTSB synopsis: http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/GenPDF.asp?id=MIA83AA136&rpt=fi

2-man concept for ETOPs mx came as a result of this incident.

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