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AA Removed Labeling On Their A/c?

Thu Mar 24, 2005 3:55 pm

I had some major time waiting for my international connection at DFW today and I was wondering around A terminal taking pics, and all the AA a/c I saw don't read what they are on the metal anymore...

Ie. 757LuxuryJet, S80LuxuryJet, or whatever it use to say.


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Look how it's all faded off this a/c.

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RE: AA Removed Labeling On Their A/c?

Thu Mar 24, 2005 4:07 pm

It's all part of the cost savings thing. AA decided to save some $$ by not having to redo those decals on the fleet, so they are slowly disappearing. Better those go than more of my paycheck  Wink

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RE: AA Removed Labeling On Their A/c?

Thu Mar 24, 2005 4:09 pm

Sh*tfire, how cheap is AA gonna get? I'm ready to jump to CO if they (AA) goes down in flames. Already a regular on CO #240.

Regards.

[Edited 2005-03-24 08:11:02]
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RE: AA Removed Labeling On Their A/c?

Thu Mar 24, 2005 4:19 pm

Labels were a misnomer anyway - Super-80 . . .Ha Ha Ha, nothing "Super" about an MD-80 . . . and 767 Luxury Liner - only if you're sitting front.
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RE: AA Removed Labeling On Their A/c?

Thu Mar 24, 2005 5:48 pm

Yeah, that sux they don't have the badges any longer, it made seeing what plane it was easier for the pax in the terminals!

Quoting Aa777jr (Thread starter):
I had some major time waiting for my international connection at DFW today

Hope you post a trip report!

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RE: AA Removed Labeling On Their A/c?

Fri Mar 25, 2005 1:00 am

Quoting Aa777jr (Thread starter):
I had some major time waiting for my international connection at DFW

Did something go wrong with your LAX connection? LAX is a lot more fun to spot.

I'm impressed with your dedication... you posted this thread from the airplane, right? Cause you posted it a full hour and 6 minutes before the actual arrival of your flight.

N

[Edited 2005-03-24 17:06:29]
 
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RE: AA Removed Labeling On Their A/c?

Fri Mar 25, 2005 1:17 am

Quoting Gigneil (Reply 5):
I'm impressed with your dedication... you posted this thread from the airplane, right? Cause you posted it a full hour and 6 minutes before the actual arrival of your flight.

That sir.. Is how you BURN someone.

Damn that is priceless, another A.net phoney caught in a lie, maybe when I get off the floor laughing I will laugh some more. That is priceless, AA777 is probably off crying now.
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RE: AA Removed Labeling On Their A/c?

Fri Mar 25, 2005 1:35 am

AA stopped reapplying those decals more than a decade ago.
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RE: AA Removed Labeling On Their A/c?

Fri Mar 25, 2005 4:38 am

Aa777jr:

I see you have made 1630 posts since joining Anet 401 days ago ; that makes at least 4 posts each day! It also seems that you spend a hell of a lot of time flying - or at least making connections at some airports here and there.
I`m just wondering; have you got time for anything else?
 
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RE: AA Removed Labeling On Their A/c?

Fri Mar 25, 2005 5:50 am

Quoting Aa777jr (Thread starter):
Ie. 757LuxuryJet, S80LuxuryJet, or whatever it use to say.

AA has sold those decals to Jetblue and Song, since those airlines seat, seat pitch, IFE etc are more luxurious than AA Economy
 
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RE: AA Removed Labeling On Their A/c?

Fri Mar 25, 2005 8:06 am

DFW has to be one of the worst places for spotters. Nothing but AA and a few other airlines thrown in.

IAH in the afternoon with its international terminal is much more exciting.
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RE: AA Removed Labeling On Their A/c?

Fri Mar 25, 2005 8:26 am

Actually some of these decals started coming off a LONG time ago. The "DC-10 Luxury Liner" labels came off after the 1979 accident in Chicago.
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RE: AA Removed Labeling On Their A/c?

Fri Mar 25, 2005 10:00 am

I don't know where the pictures were taken, but it is not at DFW.
 
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RE: AA Removed Labeling On Their A/c?

Fri Mar 25, 2005 10:38 am

Quoting Texdravid (Reply 10):
IAH in the afternoon with its international terminal is much more exciting

Terminal D sure is D-for-dead in the mornings, though. I had a chance to walk through there on Monday morning; D still looks good although it could probably use a bit of freshening up on the concourse level. The Terminal E check-in is gorgeous.
 
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RE: AA Removed Labeling On Their A/c?

Fri Mar 25, 2005 10:44 am

Quoting SATL382G (Reply 11):
The "DC-10 Luxury Liner" labels came off after the 1979 accident in Chicago.

Yeah.. and replaced by "American Airlines Luxury Liner".

Funny how the 727, 737 and 777 never saw any such titles..
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RE: AA Removed Labeling On Their A/c?

Fri Mar 25, 2005 11:23 am

Quoting Aa777jr (Reply 2):
Sh*tfire, how cheap is AA gonna get? I'm ready to jump to CO if they (AA) goes down in flames. Already a regular on CO #240.

It's just a decal Aa777jr, if you find it that upsetting maybe you have issues of your own you need to work out.
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RE: AA Removed Labeling On Their A/c?

Fri Mar 25, 2005 12:01 pm

I thought they removed them post 9/11 for security reasons.

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RE: AA Removed Labeling On Their A/c?

Fri Mar 25, 2005 12:55 pm

Quoting ScottB (Reply 13):
Terminal D sure is D-for-dead in the mornings, though.

True that. I took my farewell flight on WN out of IAH this morning (as they are closing that station a week from Saturday). Driving by D, I noted it was dead. Previously, with the Maple Leaf and a few charters, it was quite busy early in the day during the summer.
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RE: AA Removed Labeling On Their A/c?

Fri Mar 25, 2005 1:06 pm

Quoting AA777223ER (Reply 1):
It's all part of the cost savings thing. AA decided to save some $$ by not having to redo those decals on the fleet, so they are slowly disappearing.

How much $$$ can AA save getting rid of them?
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RE: AA Removed Labeling On Their A/c?

Fri Mar 25, 2005 1:12 pm

Quoting TACAA320 (Reply 18):
How much $$$ can AA save getting rid of them?

Good question. I'm curious myself.

If you take into account the time it takes to remove the worn decal, prep the surface, then apply a new one... Plus the cost of the decals themselves (which aren't exactly small), it's probably a good amount considering the number of planes AA has.
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RE: AA Removed Labeling On Their A/c?

Fri Mar 25, 2005 1:56 pm

Quoting CaptOveur (Reply 6):
That sir.. Is how you BURN someone.

Damn that is priceless, another A.net phoney caught in a lie, maybe when I get off the floor laughing I will laugh some more. That is priceless, AA777 is probably off crying now.

I know some airports have wireless internet not sure if DFW is one of them but that could explain his ability to post.

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RE: AA Removed Labeling On Their A/c?

Fri Mar 25, 2005 2:04 pm

you can still access the internet from aboard the airplane on some airlines... can you use the inflight phones for the internet?

i don't understan what satisfaction some people get when they accuse someone of lying on a.net!
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RE: AA Removed Labeling On Their A/c?

Fri Mar 25, 2005 2:15 pm

It is good to see that some other people think AA777jr is full of it. For an attorney who supposidly lives in Houston (and can not even write the name of his firm correctly), he sures spends a lot of time making international connections in DFW. Odd that livng in Houston CO is not his carrier? Perhaps it is because he is not what he claims to be?

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RE: AA Removed Labeling On Their A/c?

Fri Mar 25, 2005 2:20 pm

It's my understanding that AA removed the titles from the aircraft because they were a livery/marketing relic from the 1970's, and that no passenger these days would ever consider travel on an MD-80 or 757 "luxurious". Had they not removed them, they would be setting themselves up for relentless mocking. The fact that it probably also saves a few bucks surely didn't hurt, either.

I wish they had kept the aircraft type on the fuselage, though.
 
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RE: AA Removed Labeling On Their A/c?

Fri Mar 25, 2005 2:37 pm

My flight was through DFW, not LAX as I originally had planned. I'm flying home through LAX though. AUS-DFW-LGW-LHR-LAX-AUS. I've always got a notebook handy (for work) so it's not difficult to get online.

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RE: AA Removed Labeling On Their A/c?

Fri Mar 25, 2005 3:10 pm

Quoting Hawk44 (Reply 20):
I know some airports have wireless internet not sure if DFW is one of them but that could explain his ability to post.

Well check it yourself against the UTC+1 times of the posts involved. According to aa.com, on 3/23:

AA50 departed DFW at 17:05 (3/24 00:05 UTC+1) and arrived LGW 3/24 08:02 (09:02 UTC+1). Flight time: 7h57min.

AA78 departed DFW at 18:57 (3/24 01:57 UTC+1) and arrived LGW 3/24 10:10 (11:10 UTC +1). Flight time: 8h13min.

AA80 did not operate.

Gap between posts: 7h34min. Oops.
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RE: AA Removed Labeling On Their A/c?

Fri Mar 25, 2005 3:54 pm

This is too funny..If he is making up this whole story..WHY???
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RE: AA Removed Labeling On Their A/c?

Fri Mar 25, 2005 4:05 pm

Quoting Blasphemystic (Reply 26):
This is too funny..If he is making up this whole story..WHY???

Because I didn't take him to prom.

Quoting AeroWesty (Reply 25):

AA50 departed DFW at 17:05 (3/24 00:05 UTC+1) and arrived LGW 3/24 08:02 (09:02 UTC+1). Flight time: 7h57min.

AA78 departed DFW at 18:57 (3/24 01:57 UTC+1) and arrived LGW 3/24 10:10 (11:10 UTC +1). Flight time: 8h13min.

Gap between posts: 7h34min. Oops.

Don't forget IAH-DFW flight time, too.

Don't forget his post was made at 755am. Airliners.net is Sweden-based. One hour ahead of the UK. What time did that flight arrive again?

More ooops.

[Edited 2005-03-25 08:35:02]
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RE: AA Removed Labeling On Their A/c?

Fri Mar 25, 2005 5:21 pm

Quoting Aa777jr (Reply 2):
Sh*tfire, how cheap is AA gonna get?

As "cheap" as it takes to restore profitability.

And if you'd jump ship because of decals not being placed on the plane, you're pretty shallow to begin with. imho....
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RE: AA Removed Labeling On Their A/c?

Fri Mar 25, 2005 5:40 pm

AA removing labels is a lot smarter than Delta changing their "Widget" every 10 minutes!
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RE: AA Removed Labeling On Their A/c?

Fri Mar 25, 2005 10:09 pm

Quoting Hawk44 (Reply 20):
I know some airports have wireless internet not sure if DFW is one of them but that could explain his ability to post.

DFW definitely has it. And Admiral Clubs also.

I don't see anything wrong with this post or the honorability Aa777jr.
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RE: AA Removed Labeling On Their A/c?

Fri Mar 25, 2005 11:43 pm

Quoting Kevindca (Reply 23):

Personally, I like the labels on the aircraft. No, you won't ever think of some aircraft as "Super" or "Luxury." These have given distinction to AA's brand indentification via the livery though. Livery and logo distinction, is what little that separates one airline from another anymore. AA's labels last vestige to the good old days. Perhaps instead of misnomers like "Super" or "Luxury" they should return to "Astrojet" or better yet "Flagship." And name them "Flagship Chicago" or Boston, or "Boeing 757 Flagship" or what have you. And hey, I would like to see the bare metal and lighting bolt come back too, but that's just me.
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RE: AA Removed Labeling On Their A/c?

Fri Mar 25, 2005 11:53 pm

Quoting Aa777jr (Reply 24):
I've always got a notebook handy (for work) so it's not difficult to get online.

So you do carry on your laptop, correct? Didn't you want to ban all carry-ons in another thread of yours????
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RE: AA Removed Labeling On Their A/c?

Sat Mar 26, 2005 1:08 am

Quoting TACAA320 (Reply 30):
DFW definitely has it. And Admiral Clubs also.

I don't see anything wrong with this post or the honorability Aa777jr.

Do 777's have wifi?

Quoting SBN580 (Reply 31):
And hey, I would like to see the bare metal and lighting bolt come back too, but that's just me.

Given cost cutting measures these days.....
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RE: AA Removed Labeling On Their A/c?

Sat Mar 26, 2005 1:09 am

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 3):
Labels were a misnomer anyway - Super-80 . . .Ha Ha Ha, nothing "Super" about an MD-80 . . . and 767 Luxury Liner - only if you're sitting front.

Or how about the "F100 Luxury Liner"

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RE: AA Removed Labeling On Their A/c?

Sat Mar 26, 2005 1:13 am

Quoting Hawk44 (Reply 20):

I know some airports have wireless internet not sure if DFW is one of them but that could explain his ability to post.

If you read the analysis, his post came about an hour before AA50 was to land in London.

N
 
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RE: AA Removed Labeling On Their A/c?

Sat Mar 26, 2005 1:24 am

Quoting Gigneil (Reply 35):
If you read the analysis, his post came about an hour before AA50 was to land in London.

And if AA had internet on their airplanes there would be someone starting a thread about it every other day.

AA777jr has just proven what most of us already knew: he is full of it.
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RE: AA Removed Labeling On Their A/c?

Sat Mar 26, 2005 2:55 am

Quoting AAtakeMeAway (Reply 34):
Or how about the "F100 Luxury Liner"

Actually, out of all the AA aircraft I have flown on, I found the F-100 to be the most comfortable and roomy.
 
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RE: AA Removed Labeling On Their A/c?

Sat Mar 26, 2005 3:28 am

I wonder why I got to read this when I wanted to take a look at his profile:
No Such Member Aa777jr
There is no such username registered in the Airliners.net discussion forum.

The word "Luxury" always made me wonder anyways. Would fit a few of those Asian airlines better than AA...

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RE: AA Removed Labeling On Their A/c?

Sat Mar 26, 2005 3:48 am

Quoting GodBless (Reply 38):
No Such Member Aa777jr

Probably a hiccup in the system. I got the same the first time I clicked on it, then it appeared normally.
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RE: AA Removed Labeling On Their A/c?

Sat Mar 26, 2005 3:57 am

Quoting Aa777jr (Reply 2):
Sh*tfire, how cheap is AA gonna get? I'm ready to jump to CO if they (AA) goes down in flames. Already a regular on CO #240.

Then why does it say "Oh shit, I have to fly CO to IAH!" in your sig if you're so ready to fly them?
 
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RE: AA Removed Labeling On Their A/c?

Sat Mar 26, 2005 5:32 am

the term "Luxury Liner" is already 30 years old. Personally, I could not care less if they removed an old slogan to save money, as long as the classic AA color scheme is still there.
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RE: AA Removed Labeling On Their A/c?

Sat Mar 26, 2005 5:49 am

Quoting Captoveur (Reply 36):
AA777jr has just proven what most of us already knew: he is full of it.



Quoting OB1504 (Reply 40):
Then why does it say "Oh shit, I have to fly CO to IAH!" in your sig if you're so ready to fly them?



Quoting KYIPpilot (Reply 32):
So you do carry on your laptop, correct? Didn't you want to ban all carry-ons in another thread of yours????



Quoting Jetdeltamsy (Reply 28):
And if you'd jump ship because of decals not being placed on the plane, you're pretty shallow to begin with. imho....

I think all of this sums up AA777jr in a nutshell, no pun intended!
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RE: AA Removed Labeling On Their A/c?

Sat Mar 26, 2005 5:54 am

Quoting AeroWesty (Reply 39):
Probably a hiccup in the system.

You're right, tried it again and he is still around.

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RE: AA Removed Labeling On Their A/c?

Sat Mar 26, 2005 6:34 am

I have been a regular visitor to A.net for years now but only recently signed up for a u/n so I could actually make posts instead of just view them.

Quoting HAMAD (Reply 21):
i don't understan what satisfaction some people get when they accuse someone of lying on a.net!

I agree with HAMAD completely. aa777jr may be lying about everything for all we know. I'm not sure what his motivation would be for that. But even if he is, what difference does it make? Does this discussion thread become invalid because he "made up" his trip story? He's the one that has to live with himself and his conscience if he is making all of it up to impress people he's never met.
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RE: AA Removed Labeling On Their A/c?

Sat Mar 26, 2005 6:45 am



Quoting Caspian27 (Reply 44):
Does this discussion thread become invalid because he "made up" his trip story?

No, but we don't take kindly to liars in these parts. Just look what happened to AAPlatinumLiar, he had to delete himself. Lying gets you nowhere here, and just makes you look like an ass, because when you are exposed, and you will be, no one will take you seriously. As you see here.

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RE: AA Removed Labeling On Their A/c?

Sat Mar 26, 2005 7:03 am

Quoting Caspian27 (Reply 44):
what difference does it make

The difference it makes, in any case, not just this example, is that people look to forums like this for accurate, reliable information to educate themselves about aviation, share common experiences, and in some cases not feel as an outcast or embarrassed for having an interest that some point to as an oddity (or even obsession).

On the internet you can be anyone you want to be. When someone portrays their persona as something it is not, attempts to give out information as valid when it is based upon a fictional interpretation of their standing in life, it is an offense to those who must then sit and separate the wheat from the chaff, and is a slap to those who are dedicated to actually providing accurate and helpful viewpoints on an industry where many here have a great passion for from an assortment of perspectives and backgrounds. We're all human, and I myself have made corrections to things I've posted, or been corrected by others in honest errors I've made in misunderstandings or misinterpretations. Accepting that graciously and openly is part of being grown up.

For the integrity of any website's forums, it is essential that people can read posts with some assurance that posts are not intentionally false or misleading--which is why there are moderators. It's also the responsibility of the general membership to speak up when something is wrong, which there is the looks of in this case. Would airliners.net have appealed to you if you'd viewed it as merely a place where people posted nonsense with impunity? I know it would not have appealed to me at all. That the members of this site actively contribute to the checks and balances is one of the validations that information here can be trusted. No one likes to be had.

Cheers.

[Edited 2005-03-25 23:17:08]
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RE: AA Removed Labeling On Their A/c?

Sat Mar 26, 2005 9:19 am

Quoting AAtakeMeAway (Reply 34):
Or how about the "F100 Luxury Liner"

Lets not get carried away here.. It was 'F100 Luxury Jet'. The F100 is by no means a 'Liner'...  duck 
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RE: AA Removed Labeling On Their A/c?

Sat Mar 26, 2005 11:21 am

Quoting Newark777 (Reply 45):
AAPlatinumLiar, he had to delete himself.

Yes, but he came back as "AirlinerFreak". IMHO, he hasn't changed his ways.
 
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RE: AA Removed Labeling On Their A/c?

Sat Mar 26, 2005 11:47 am

Quoting GodBless (Reply 38):
Such Member Aa777jr
There is no such username registered in the Airliners.net discussion forum.

There IS such username registered. Check again.
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