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Jet Airways Schedules To London Heathrow

Mon Apr 18, 2005 12:04 am

Jet Airways of India will launch daily scheduled service between Mumbai and London Heathrow from 23 May 2005.

The flights will be operated by Airbus 340-300 aircraft on lease from South African Airways and will operate on the following schedule.

9W 118 BOM d1145 LHR a1655 (Mo)
9W 118 BOM d1230 LHR a1740 (Th)
9W 118 BOM d1320 LHR a1830 (ex. Mo/Th)

9W 117 LHR d2125 BOM a1050+1 (daily)

All schedules and operations are still subject to Government approvals and will be available for sale after those formalities are completed.
 
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Mon Apr 18, 2005 12:14 am

Any news on the JFK service? May 23 seems awfully quick to start, wouldn't a later date be better for advance sales?
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RE: Jet Airways Schedules To London Heathrow

Mon Apr 18, 2005 12:34 am

Quoting Flyguy1 (Reply 1):
May 23 seems awfully quick to start, wouldn't a later date be better for advance sales?

Expect them to come out with some inaugural fares to fill up the short term demand.

Not sure where they will get the demand with now VS and soon BMI joining the mix. Let the fare wars begin!
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RE: Jet Airways Schedules To London Heathrow

Mon Apr 18, 2005 12:43 am

Quoting WindowSeat (Reply 2):
Expect them to come out with some inaugural fares to fill up the short term demand.

That would be great, as I might travel to LHR soon for personal reasons.. Hopefully these fares will last until End of July..
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RE: Jet Airways Schedules To London Heathrow

Mon Apr 18, 2005 2:19 am

Quoting WindowSeat (Reply 2):
Not sure where they will get the demand with now VS and soon BMI joining the mix

Some days of the week will see 7 services between Mumbai and London on a choice of 5 airlines.

In fact, Mumbai might soon become the second largest longhaul market out of Heathrow after New York.
 
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Mon Apr 18, 2005 2:22 am

Quoting Mrniji (Reply 3):
That would be great, as I might travel to LHR soon for personal reasons

I think you have been spending too much time on A.net if you have to travel to Heathrow for personal reasons.  Wink
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Mon Apr 18, 2005 2:24 am

Very good news! Does anyone have a photograph of what 9W's 342 aircraft (SAA only have 342 and 346 machines, eh?) will look like?
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RE: Jet Airways Schedules To London Heathrow

Mon Apr 18, 2005 2:28 am

Quoting WindowSeat (Reply 2):
re they will get the demand with now VS and soon BMI joining the mix. Let the fare wars begin!

Then you have not been to India. Jet Airways is a very strong brand name within India and if prices are competitive I am willing to bet a large majrotiy will opt for Jet over Virgin and BMI anyday. Hey... even I as a US citizen will opt for Jet over the other two airlines. If Jet carries over their stellar domestic services to international routes, they will not have any problems defeating Virgin and BMI over a long period of time. I have dealt on an extensive basis with Indian advertising executives and one thing I have learned is the native Indian population prefers a very strong Indian brand over any foreign brands coming into the country AS LONG AS the standards are high and it value added aspects to it. I have flown Jet Airways many times and from what I have seen and experienced indeed if they replicate their high standards on their international routes they will handily deal with Virgin's and BMI's entry into the market. The question is with Jet entering the London market, how will VS and BMI deal with the situation?
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RE: Jet Airways Schedules To London Heathrow

Mon Apr 18, 2005 2:54 am

Quoting Atmx2000 (Reply 5):
I think you have been spending too much time on A.net if you have to travel to Heathrow for personal reasons.

?? Oh, I have graduated last year, and I decided that I should attend the ceemony.. nothing in particular, and nothing to do with the thread on a.net Matchmakers Big grin
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RE: Jet Airways Schedules To London Heathrow

Mon Apr 18, 2005 3:33 am

Excellent news! Can't wait to see pics of these in the 9W livery. Have any of the 343s been repainted yet?
Maybe AC can place their soon to be replaced 343s with 9W...

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RE: Jet Airways Schedules To London Heathrow

Mon Apr 18, 2005 3:38 am

That's great news. Wow...Mumbai to London 7 flights a day. That's quite something. That shows the size of the market between the two cities (even though I'm sure a lot of the traffic will be going to North America).

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Mon Apr 18, 2005 3:42 am

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RE: Jet Airways Schedules To London Heathrow

Mon Apr 18, 2005 4:02 am

I'm confused about the schedule. The inbound flight (LHR-BOM) always departs at a consistent time, but the outbound flights on Mondays and Thursdays depart earlier. Why is this?

Wouldn't be much simpler for the flying public to keep the schedules consistent every day?
 
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RE: Jet Airways Schedules To London Heathrow

Mon Apr 18, 2005 4:59 am

Quoting Vxg (Reply 12):
Why is this?

Heathrow slot availability.
 
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RE: Jet Airways Schedules To London Heathrow

Mon Apr 18, 2005 5:23 am

I would fly Jet to India from the states. But main question, can I earn ff miles with any US ff program? I would imagine that would be a key decision factor for many Indian-Americans (other than service levels). Jet needs to join or be associated with an alliance.
 
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RE: Jet Airways Schedules To London Heathrow

Mon Apr 18, 2005 5:29 am

Quoting Hawaijahaz (Reply 10):
Wow...Mumbai to London 7 flights a day. That's quite something. That shows the size of the market between the two cities (even though I'm sure a lot of the traffic will be going to North America).

Actually, most of it will be UK - unlike AF in Paris and LH in FRA/MUC, I would think most of the traffic originates in the UK. AF relies on over 75% of traffic from the US/Canada for its flights, hardly any from France. I think many would agree, that is not the case in Britain.

[Edited 2005-04-17 22:31:02]
 
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Mon Apr 18, 2005 5:30 am

You can earn NW miles (along with KL and BA) on 9W.

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RE: Jet Airways Schedules To London Heathrow

Mon Apr 18, 2005 5:32 am

I think that Jet will join oneworld though - AI looks like she is heading for STAR, and from what I've heard, 9W would probably liked to be with BA in oneworld.
 
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Mon Apr 18, 2005 6:52 am

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Do you know when they will beginn flying to CDG and how many times a week?
I know they plan to base crew in Paris.
 
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Mon Apr 18, 2005 11:18 am

Any chance 9W will come to Chicago?
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RE: Jet Airways Schedules To London Heathrow

Mon Apr 18, 2005 11:29 am

Ive earned FF miles on NW on my 9W flights.

As far as this amazing capacity increase is concerned, now all that has to happen is for the Indian economy to grow by leaps and bounds to fuel this capacity increase !
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RE: Jet Airways Schedules To London Heathrow

Mon Apr 18, 2005 11:34 am

Quoting [email protected] (Reply 6):
Very good news! Does anyone have a photograph of what 9W's 342 aircraft (SAA only have 342 and 346 machines, eh?) will look like?

The aircraft operated by Jet will be factory-fresh A340-300 Enhanced airframes leased from South African.

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RE: Jet Airways Schedules To London Heathrow

Mon Apr 18, 2005 1:54 pm

Quoting Gigneil (Reply 21):
The aircraft operated by Jet will be factory-fresh A340-300 Enhanced airframes leased from South African.

Why does 9W not say so.Whats the big secret.Everyone says so,except 9W official Newsletter.
I know Buddies from 9W who are in tolouse undergoing Mx training on the A340s.But no 9W comment officially.
Are they having doubts.
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RE: Jet Airways Schedules To London Heathrow

Mon Apr 18, 2005 2:11 pm

So I just want to clear up a few things for myself if thats ok with everyone?  Wink First, the 343 they are leasing is actually coming straight from the factory, originally destined for SA themselves, correct? If this is indeed correct, has SA been intending on leasing the aircraft out straight out of its departure from the factory, or was the possibility of them having to take the plane into their own hands first, a likely outcome? Secondly, and this question I could have missed very easily amongst all the posts Jet has been involved in, has the planned configuration for this aircraft been decided yet? If so, is it going to be anything nice, i.e. lie-flat seats in the premium classes, possibly PTVs throughout, etc. etc.?

Sorry if this is too far off topic, but I'd appreciate any answers you can give!  Smile
 
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RE: Jet Airways Schedules To London Heathrow

Mon Apr 18, 2005 2:43 pm

Quoting B747-437B (Reply 13):
Heathrow slot availability.

One question really: whom did they get the slots from? It's not like Heathrow has slots laying around idle, even at the off-peak times they have secured. Or were some slots guaranteed when the India-U.K. bilateral was updated last time around?

I also note that outbound slot restrictions is apparently forcing them to have the aircraft on the ground for a bit longer than would actually be necessary, which brings the aircraft back to Mumbai a bit too late to make a direct turnaround on Mondays and Thursday. So I guess they plan to start off operations with at least two airframes, and use the second aircraft for another Europe rotation (6 weekly CDG, maybe?)? If they do so, then a second European destination would more or less be forced into the same operational pattern than the Heathrow flight, with a commercially less interesting evening turn around in Europe, which shouldn't be a problem if they're mostly going after the 3rd and 4th freedom O&D market.

Finally, any idea what terminal they will be operating from at Heathrow? Terminal 3 looks to be the obvious choice, but they might be running into capacity problems there.
 
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Mon Apr 18, 2005 6:47 pm

Observation: plane arrives from LHR at 10:50 and leaves at... 11:45!!!

How many A340s are we talking about? A single one or more? and if more, where else will they fly and when?

There's got to be a trick because I don't know an airline who turns around a A340 on a longhaul route in just 55 minutes, not to mention the risk of the aircraft being late, you name it.
 
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Mon Apr 18, 2005 7:05 pm

Quoting HB-IWC (Reply 24):
Finally, any idea what terminal they will be operating from at Heathrow? Terminal 3 looks to be the obvious choice, but they might be running into capacity problems there.

My question too - I'm assuming T3 too - but there is the possibility it could be T1 or T4 of course as both have long haul operators besides BA/oneworld in them.
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RE: Jet Airways Schedules To London Heathrow

Mon Apr 18, 2005 7:06 pm

Quoting B747-437B (Thread starter):
9W 118 BOM d1145 LHR a1655 (Mo)
9W 118 BOM d1230 LHR a1740 (Th)
9W 118 BOM d1320 LHR a1830 (ex. Mo/Th)

9W 117 LHR d2125 BOM a1050+1 (daily)

So does this mean that 9W's A340s are going to be based at LHR and not at BOM?

Their SIN routing works similarly. So why is 9W basing all its international airplanes outside India?
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RE: Jet Airways Schedules To London Heathrow

Mon Apr 18, 2005 7:08 pm

Quoting HB-IWC (Reply 24):
One question really: whom did they get the slots from? It's not like Heathrow has slots laying around idle, even at the off-peak times they have secured.

Good point, where did they get the slots from?
Anyone know how one can look at slot availability at LHR?
 
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RE: Jet Airways Schedules To London Heathrow

Mon Apr 18, 2005 7:36 pm

Quoting BrightCedars (Reply 25):
Observation: plane arrives from LHR at 10:50 and leaves at... 11:45!!!

How many A340s are we talking about? A single one or more? and if more, where else will they fly and when?

There's got to be a trick because I don't know an airline who turns around a A340 on a longhaul route in just 55 minutes, not to mention the risk of the aircraft being late, you name it.

There's not trick. What we see here is the schedule for just one route. Apparently, at least 3 A343 airframes are to be operated, so one must see the whole picture, i.e. the combination of all routes to be operated with the new aircraft.

9W will likely operate Heathrow services in conjunction with another European operation, according to an integrated schedule that can assure operational stability. There is, of course, given the small fleet of just 3 airframes, a increased risk for operational irregularities, an instability that is inherent to the operation of small fleets with an acceptable utilization rate.

Quoting DIJKKIJK (Reply 27):
So does this mean that 9W's A340s are going to be based at LHR and not at BOM?

Longer than necessary ground times at Heathrow are a result of a lack of earlier departure slots. That doesn't mean the aircraft will be based in London.
 
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RE: Jet Airways Schedules To London Heathrow

Mon Apr 18, 2005 7:49 pm

Quoting HB-IWC (Reply 24):
whom did they get the slots from? It's not like Heathrow has slots laying around idle, even at the off-peak times they have secured.

Actually, Jet Airways received 7 weekly pairs of slots via the allocation process. There are (were) limited LHR slots available for "new entrants" under EU policy document 793/2004.

Quoting Concorde001 (Reply 28):
Anyone know how one can look at slot availability at LHR?

ACL's website has a somewhat useful public tool that displays RUNWAY capacity availability online. Note however that this does NOT correspond exactly to actual slot availability because of terminal capacity limitations and other factors affecting slots such as noise restrictions, curfews, hard movement caps, etc...

http://www.acl-uk.org/services/pool.htm

ACL also has the subscription-based Online Co-ordination System (OCS) which gives definitive results (airlines can actually request and claim unutilized slots via the web interface) and is designed for the use of participating airlines only.

https://www.online-coordination.com/Default.aspx?tabid=eAIN

IATA's Scheduling Services also run the IATA Slot Exchange bulletin boards online as part of their Co-ordinator Appointments Calendars. Again, you have to be a registered airline to participate.

http://www.iata.org/Sked/Appcal/
 
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RE: Jet Airways Schedules To London Heathrow

Mon Apr 18, 2005 7:58 pm

Quoting HB-IWC (Reply 29):
9W will likely operate Heathrow services in conjunction with another European operation

If sources are to be believed, they will take delivery of the first two A340s in May and will run only Heathrow to begin with (alternating the airframes on a day-to-day basis). The third A340 will arrive in June and will be used to launch a 5-6x weekly service to the United States via Europe. It is an ambitious schedule and I'm not quite sure they can maintain that high level of utility consistently with scheduled and unscheduled maintenance.
 
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RE: Jet Airways Schedules To London Heathrow

Mon Apr 18, 2005 8:14 pm

According to the Economic Times of India...9W have opted for EWR and not JFK...and the EU city that will see a stop made enroute to EWR is contested amongst AMS-BRU-CDG!!!
 
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Mon Apr 18, 2005 8:15 pm

Quoting B747-437B (Reply 31):
The third A340 will arrive in June and will be used to launch a 5-6x weekly service to the United States via Europe.

That looks like an overambitious plan for a newcomer in longhaul operations and with a very limited fleet of three airframes only. Such a limited operation is known to be very prone to operational irregularities, so if they try to schedule for overly ambitious utilization, they're bound to be running into serious operational problems sooner rather than later.

What seems to be complicating the entire picture, is that they have to fit any proposed North American operation with the Heathrow slots they have obtained for the daily Mumbai service. The solution can only be a luchtime departure to Europe, with late evening arrival in New York (I presume that's where's they'll be flying?), with a midnight US departure leading to an early morning India arrival, so as to have an aircraft ready for the BOM-LHR rotation.
 
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RE: Jet Airways Schedules To London Heathrow

Mon Apr 18, 2005 8:21 pm

Supposing 9W could get the slots at LHR, could they operate transatlantic flights like AI do to JFK/ORD?
Do you think 9W would prefer LHR over CDG/BRU?
 
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RE: Jet Airways Schedules To London Heathrow

Mon Apr 18, 2005 8:39 pm

Due to less aircraft in the fleet for long haul flights...EWR service should begin with maximum 4 weekly service and not 5-6...the latter should only happen once an extra A 343 joins the fleet.
 
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Mon Apr 18, 2005 9:32 pm

Are these latest SAA birds equipped with PTVs on every seat, and SAAs new J class product, if so does anybody have any links to it
 
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Mon Apr 18, 2005 9:34 pm

Quoting HB-IWC (Reply 29):
There's not trick. What we see here is the schedule for just one route. Apparently, at least 3 A343 airframes are to be operated, so one must see the whole picture, i.e. the combination of all routes to be operated with the new aircraft.

Hence the question:

Quoting BrightCedars (Reply 25):
How many A340s are we talking about? A single one or more? and if more, where else will they fly and when?
 
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Mon Apr 18, 2005 11:48 pm

Quoting Karan69 (Reply 36):
Are these latest SAA birds equipped with PTVs on every seat

All of the South African A343's are equipped with PTV's in all classes. Some of them even have AVOD entertainment systems.
https://www.airliners.net/open.file/528659/M/

Quoting Karan69 (Reply 36):
and SAAs new J class product, if so does anybody have any links to it

Yes, the SAA J class product on the A343 is similar to that on their A346. They have flat bed seats in Business class.
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RE: Jet Airways Schedules To London Heathrow

Tue Apr 19, 2005 12:41 am

Quoting BrightCedars (Reply 25):
Observation: plane arrives from LHR at 10:50 and leaves at... 11:45!!!

Completely possible to turn it though, as the plane really is not all that long. If you dual exit it and get clean up on quick, a 55 minute turn should be possible. Still, since they will be alternating airframes to start, there should be no issue at all

Asking as to more permanance, how is 9W planning to go for the long run? Are they going to stick with A340s or go 777/787?
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RE: Jet Airways Schedules To London Heathrow

Tue Apr 19, 2005 1:05 am

Hey All,

Quoting Cornish (Reply 26):
My question too - I'm assuming T3 too - but there is the possibility it could be T1 or T4 of course as both have long haul operators besides BA/oneworld in them.

Jet will be at T3......or at least i should say that their premium passangers will, as they have a deal with AA to use the Park Lane 1st Class check-in area.

Quoting N1120A (Reply 39):
Completely possible to turn it though, as the plane really is not all that long. If you dual exit it and get clean up on quick, a 55 minute turn should be possible. Still, since they will be alternating airframes to start, there should be no issue at all

As for turning a 343 in 55 mins ....... Nope .......not gonna happen...easy enough to strip the Fwd & Aft bellies, but then you've got 250+ pax to get off, de-cater..clean...fuel...re-cater..reboard another 250+ pax...and on top of that load the Fwd & Aft holds again, then you got your bag pulls.....well the list is endless..........

But hey......Good Luck to Jet.....nice to see new people challenging the establishment.

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RE: Jet Airways Schedules To London Heathrow

Tue Apr 19, 2005 1:44 am

I have travelled many times from LHR on Arab airlines and PIA and I find it extremely hard to believe that 9W will successfully turn around their aircraft within 55 minutes.

Always due to runway congestion 20-30 mins waiting line + it takes a lot of time to clean up the aircraft 25-30 mins + Indian / Desi pax take way more than 30 mins boarding the aircraft and even reaching the gate on time  Wink

I will not be surprised if 75%+ of the 9W LHR-BOM flights are delayed by over 30 minutes!!!
 
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RE: Jet Airways Schedules To London Heathrow

Tue Apr 19, 2005 2:50 am

Desi pax take way more than 30 mins boarding the aircraft and even reaching the gate on time

Please.
They rush to the Jetway and board the plane in 2 minutes like a herd of wildebeest, pushing and shoving !
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RE: Jet Airways Schedules To London Heathrow

Tue Apr 19, 2005 3:13 am

If these are the same SAA birds that 9W is getting then they have AVOD even in eco class and as Jetway mentioned SAAs new bussiness class product
 
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RE: Jet Airways Schedules To London Heathrow

Tue Apr 19, 2005 3:57 am

Anyone know if the aircrafts will be wet-leased or dry-leased from South African Airlines???
 
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RE: Jet Airways Schedules To London Heathrow

Tue Apr 19, 2005 5:02 am

Quoting Behramjee (Reply 41):
have travelled many times from LHR on Arab airlines and PIA and I find it extremely hard to believe that 9W will successfully turn around their aircraft within 55 minutes.

Always due to runway congestion 20-30 mins waiting line + it takes a lot of time to clean up the aircraft 25-30 mins + Indian / Desi pax take way more than 30 mins boarding the aircraft and even reaching the gate on time

I will not be surprised if 75%+ of the 9W LHR-BOM flights are delayed by over 30 minutes!!!

The 55 min turnaround is at BOM, not LHR (according to the sked given in the thread-starter).

If there are 2 aircraft plying the route, as suggested in earlier posts, then the need for a quick turnaround is negated anyway.

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[Edited 2005-04-18 22:05:53]

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RE: Jet Airways Schedules To London Heathrow

Tue Apr 19, 2005 10:31 am

Quoting Jaysit (Reply 42):
Please.
They rush to the Jetway and board the plane in 2 minutes like a herd of wildebeest, pushing and shoving !

Hahahahha how true Jaysit  Smile Most of them forget that they have an assigned seat and the plane won’t leave without them. It’s embarrassing really!
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RE: Jet Airways Schedules To London Heathrow

Tue Apr 19, 2005 10:46 am

Quoting Stealthpilot (Reply 46):
they have an assigned seat and the plane won’t leave without them.

But they don't have an assigned overhead bin...and that is the real reason -- not just in India, mind you.
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Tue Apr 19, 2005 11:31 am

Quoting WestWing (Reply 47):
But they don't have an assigned overhead bin...and that is the real reason -- not just in India, mind you.

No, but if they didn't carry their whole house everytime perhaps there would be space for everyone...
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RE: Jet Airways Schedules To London Heathrow

Tue Apr 19, 2005 4:36 pm

Quoting TUGMASTER (Reply 40):
As for turning a 343 in 55 mins ....... Nope .......not gonna happen...easy enough to strip the Fwd & Aft bellies, but then you've got 250+ pax to get off, de-cater..clean...fuel...re-cater..reboard another 250+ pax...and on top of that load the Fwd & Aft holds again, then you got your bag pulls.....well the list is endless..........

Well, I wouldn't say that it's absolutely impossible (you can probably have your A343 turned around in less than an hour in Narita or Kansai - I saw with my own eyes a demonstration in Japan in which a full A333 was turned in 45 min tops just two weeks ago), but it's not a healthy option, and nothing's supposed to go wrong. Anyway, all of this won't be an issue as they're not planning to do it:

Quoting B747-437B (Reply 31):
If sources are to be believed, they will take delivery of the first two A340s in May and will run only Heathrow to begin with (alternating the airframes on a day-to-day basis).

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