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atco2b
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RE: Former Transatlantic Routes

Wed May 04, 2005 9:25 pm

BA also used to operate a daily service (BA2172/2173) from LGW-JFK-LGW, using a B763. Stopped back in 2002 i think.
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RE: Former Transatlantic Routes

Wed May 04, 2005 9:26 pm

TWA flew the first transatlantic service form EWR to, I believe LHR in the late 70's with a 707.
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RE: Former Transatlantic Routes

Wed May 04, 2005 9:26 pm

Quoting Budyboy (Reply 1):
recall Northwest used to fly Minneapolis to Norway,

Northwest used 707s on that route if I'm not mistaken.

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RE: Former Transatlantic Routes

Wed May 04, 2005 9:44 pm

AA ORD-BHX

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RE: Former Transatlantic Routes

Wed May 04, 2005 10:40 pm

Turkish Airlines (TK): IST-MIA
 
edina
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RE: Former Transatlantic Routes

Thu May 05, 2005 1:45 am

Quoting Atco2b (Reply 50):
BA also used to operate a daily service (BA2172/2173) from LGW-JFK-LGW, using a B763. Stopped back in 2002 i think.

And DC10-30s and 747 Classics occasionally before that........I was working the flight on 9/11 & diverted to YHZ, the flight was dropped soon after that, the argument being that despite having the longest long haul load factors ex LGW the route was the lowest yielding.


Arrow Air - LGW - DEN & LGW - TPA, on DC8-63s

Highland Express, in reply to the earlier posting, flew STN - PIK - NYC & STN - BHX - NYC (cant remember if it was JFK or EWR....)
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panam330
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RE: Former Transatlantic Routes

Thu May 05, 2005 5:04 am

Quoting Eastbay (Reply 38):
PeoplExpress: SFO-BRU, weekly with a 747

I believe that was from OAK.

Also, how could y'all forget AA's ORY service?! From ORD, RDU, DFW and possibly JFK and BNA.

Quoting Atco2b (Reply 50):
BA also used to operate a daily service (BA2172/2173) from LGW-JFK-LGW, using a B763. Stopped back in 2002 i think.

They also flew it with a B747.
 
PBIflyguy
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RE: Former Transatlantic Routes

Thu May 05, 2005 5:40 am

Western - DEN-LGW, early 1980's DC-10's. Short lived service, less than two years.
 
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RE: Former Transatlantic Routes

Thu May 05, 2005 6:27 am

SSC service, completely gone today - included:
Paris-Dakar-Rio
Air France also flew
Paris-Cayenne-Manaus-Lima with 747 twice a week,
Paris-Recife-Rio with 747 at varying frequencies.

Varig's African network included Lagos, Abidjan, Luanda-Maputo and Johanesburg out of Rio.

Royal Air Maroc flew once a week Rio-Casablanca.

Iraqi Airways flew Bahgdad-Amman-Lisbon-Rio, sometimes with an extension to an airbase to load on hardware (not the Intel kind).
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malaysia
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RE: Former Transatlantic Routes

Thu May 05, 2005 7:03 am

I sure miss TW with its LAX-LHR and LAX-CDG as well'

and PAA use to fly to BEY direct from Baltimore, that was something.

I think that PAA flew transatlantic from BWI and JFK via BEY to connect to THR, KHI, DEL, CCU, RGN, SGN, and BKK,

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BCAL
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RE: Former Transatlantic Routes

Thu May 05, 2005 7:11 am

Western at one time operated a direct service from LGW to HNL with a refuelling stop. It was destined for failure as they used DC10-10s and could not carry a full load.
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MAH4546
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RE: Former Transatlantic Routes

Thu May 05, 2005 7:19 am

Quoting PanAm330 (Reply 56):
Also, how could y'all forget AA's ORY service?! From ORD, RDU, DFW and possibly JFK and BNA.

They never flew BNA-ORY. They did fly MIA-ORY.
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Kahala777
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RE: Former Transatlantic Routes

Thu May 05, 2005 7:32 am

AEROFLOT
SVO-SFO, SVO-MIA

AIR FRANCE
NCE-JFK, CDG-DFW, IAH-MEX

ALITALIA
FCO-ORD, FCO-MXP-LAX, MXP-SFO

AUSTRIAN
VIE-CPH-ORD

BALAIR
ZRH-BGR-SFO, ZRH-YYC-ANC

BRITISH AIRWAYS
LGW-PHX-SAN, LGW-JFK, LGW-LAX, LGW-MIA, LHR-SAN, LHR-PIT, MAN-LAX, BHX-JFK-YYZ, BHX-BOS, YUL-DTW

CITY BIRD
BRU-EWR, BRU-LAX, BRU-OAK, BRU-MCO

EGYPT AIR
JFK-LAX

EL AL
FCO-JFK, TLV-LAX

FINNAIR
HEL-SFO

IBERIA
MAD-LAX, BCN-JFK

KLM
AMS-YHZ, AMS-YYC, AMS-BWI, AMS-MCO, AMS-BOS

LUFTHANSA
FRA-YYC-YVR, IAH-DFW

MARTINAIR
AMS-OAK, AMS-DEN, AMS-YYC

ROYAL JORDANIAN
AMS-JFK

SAS
CPH-LAX, CPH-SFO(Service Never Commenced)

SWISSAIR
ZRH-SFO, BOS-PHL, BSL-EWR, ZRH-EWR

TRANSAERO
SVO-LAX

UTA
BOD-JFK, NCE-JFK, TLS-JFK, ORY-JFK, ORY-SFO-PPT, ORY-LAX-PPT

VIRGIN ATLANTIC
LGW-SFO(Summer of 2001/2002), LHR-ORD, LHR-YYZ, LGW-BOS, LGW-EWR, LGW-MIA



Regards - KAHALA777

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RE: Former Transatlantic Routes

Thu May 05, 2005 7:46 am

Quoting LH423 (Reply 4):
AA also used to have an LGW flight from BOS. LGW just can't seem to win from BOS!

Does not really matter since BOS has LHR flights. Was that flight before AA recived LHR slots from Pan Am?

Also Northwest/KLM with MIA-AMS. I loved seeing NW DC-10s or KLM MD-11s. But when KLM merged with AF the flight stoped.
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mcbee85
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RE: Former Transatlantic Routes

Thu May 05, 2005 10:50 am

The short-lived LH service from CGN to EWR.
 
Kahala777
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RE: Former Transatlantic Routes

Thu May 05, 2005 11:00 am

At one time didnt LH also service HAM-NYC? TXL-NYC?


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flyTPA
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RE: Former Transatlantic Routes

Thu May 05, 2005 1:18 pm

BA TPA-MIA-LHR 742

BA TPA-BDA-LGW L10

CO MUC-EWR -D10

Condor
TPA-FRA
TPA-FLL-FRA

LTU
TPA-DUS

Martinair
TPA-AMS

Some same-plane service that no longer exists:

Piedmont:
TPA-CLT-LGW 762

PanAm
TPA-IAD-LHR 747
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MAH4546
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RE: Former Transatlantic Routes

Thu May 05, 2005 1:42 pm

Quoting Kahala777 (Reply 65):
At one time didnt LH also service HAM-NYC? TXL-NYC?

They flew MIA-HAM and JFK-HAM in the early/mid-90s.
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Big777jet
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RE: Former Transatlantic Routes

Thu May 05, 2005 3:21 pm

Delta used to fly MIA-LGW.

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RE: Former Transatlantic Routes

Thu May 05, 2005 10:10 pm

Finnair also used to have Helsinki-Seattle service in the 1980's.
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edina
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RE: Former Transatlantic Routes

Thu May 05, 2005 11:40 pm

BA

GLA - JFK - BOS
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san747
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RE: Former Transatlantic Routes

Fri May 06, 2005 12:48 am

Quoting MSYtristar (Reply 16):
National flew MSY-AMS back in 1979

Wow... On what equipment?

Quoting Ssides (Reply 19):
Did anyone mention SAN-LHR

Or SAN-PHX-LGW/LHR... What I would give to have either of those flights back into SAN...  sigh 
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TWA902fly
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RE: Former Transatlantic Routes

Fri May 06, 2005 1:41 am

Aeroflot also used to fly SVO-ORD, as well as SVO-MIA and SVO-MCO

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BEG2IAH
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RE: Former Transatlantic Routes

Fri May 06, 2005 1:01 pm

And everyone forgot JAT flying to Toronto (started 10/26/84), Montreal, Cleveland, Detroit (via CLE), Chicago (started 11/4/80), New York (started 6/15/76), LA (via ORD).

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bhxdtw
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RE: Former Transatlantic Routes

Fri May 06, 2005 2:06 pm

hope im not too late to add something to this but
didnt SA once (still) do a JNB-ATL service ...

and TAAG also have their RIO service..I think..

also I remember seeing plenty of Wardair's / Worldways flying YYZ-BHX-YYZ back in the day... had the chance to fly a Worldways Tristar BHX-YYZ once.. good times...inbound on a DC-8... it was '88 and outbound stopped at MAN
Sorry if these have already been mentioned.. just raced through the previous reply's... did anyone mention BA's BHX-JFK vv 757/767 route that occassionaly went onwards to YYZ ? also AC once did YYZ-BHX vv ..
 
bartond
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RE: Former Transatlantic Routes

Fri May 06, 2005 2:50 pm

Don't forget Sabena (not sure what their three-letter symbol is) to DFW. Sabena BRU-DFW for a while.

Actually I don't think this service did all that poorly but 9/11 destroyed it. Sabena had a nice little codeshare with AA working and they did pretty well with their A333/2 into DFW a few times per week. I flew it once on 9/20/01 (the first int'l flight out of DFW after 9/11) and it was full but you could tell the super-cool and young flight attendants were being crapheads cuz the airline was about bankrupt.

And what about British Caledonian to DFW back in the day? I guess BA took over that route but I still loved to see that British Caledonian MD11 parked in the E terminal back in the day.
 
Flyer732
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RE: Former Transatlantic Routes

Fri May 06, 2005 4:43 pm

Quoting Jdaniel001 (Reply 47):
and World from BWI to SNN and other points in Europe. (Sorry I'm too lazy to research it).

As far as I know, the World service from BWI is all military, and still runs today. Not a passenger flight.

Quoting BHXDTW (Reply 74):
didnt SA once (still) do a JNB-ATL service ...

Still do, Daily A346.
 
vadheim
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RE: Former Transatlantic Routes

Fri May 06, 2005 4:43 pm

From Norway:

GEN = Oslo Gardermoen Airport (from October 1998 - OSL)
FBU = Oslo Fornebu Airport (closed October 1998)
BGO = Bergen Flesland Airport

Delta:
FBU-JFK (1990's)

Northwest:
GEN-JFK (1980's)
GEN-MSP (1980's)
OSL-MSP (1999)

Pan Am:
GEN-JFK (1970's)
FBU-JFK (1990's)

SAS:
GEN-JFK (until early 1990's)
FBU-EWR (until 1998)
OSL-EWR (until 2004)
BGO-JFK (1980's)

Tower Air:
GEN-JFK (1980's)
GEN-MIA (1980's)

TWA:
GEN-JFK (1980's)
FBU-JFK (1990's)
 
BCAL
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RE: Former Transatlantic Routes

Fri May 06, 2005 6:33 pm

Quoting Bartond (Reply 75):
And what about British Caledonian to DFW back in the day? I guess BA took over that route

BA took over BCal's routes from LGW to DFW and Houston. However, given a chance today they would move them to LHR quicker than you could bat an eyelid if it was not for the Bermuda II agreement.
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RE: Former Transatlantic Routes

Fri May 06, 2005 7:40 pm

Hi, not much to add to these, but here are some that have been missed out so far .

Northwest
HAM-CPH-MSP
HAM-CPH-JFK

that was with 747s in the 70s , I am not quite sure of the routing and the exact years however.

National
FRA-AMS-MIA

That Braniff BOS-BRU service mentioned in the first extended to FRA

PanAm
at least one which has not been posted was LHR-SNN-JFK
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