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A380 In A AA Livery

Mon May 09, 2005 7:50 am

I wasn't a big fan of the way the 380 looked untill I saw it in the air, and was just wondering if there were any modified photos of the 380 in AA livery.

If there were I might even be convinced that it's a good looking aircraft  Silly

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Mon May 09, 2005 8:27 am

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RE: A380 In A AA Livery

Mon May 09, 2005 9:48 am

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y132/UH60FtRucker/00002511.jpg

Ouch... the entire upper deck is almost invisible. I don't care for AA 380 at all!




I know this not the finalized design - but damn this one looks hot:


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RE: A380 In A AA Livery

Mon May 09, 2005 10:01 am

Except it looks like they made it from aluminum, when we know that it's carbon fibre...which means in AA's world, it would have to be painted grey, and it wouldn't look quite that sleek. (besides the fact that those are the "old" lines)
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RE: A380 In A AA Livery

Mon May 09, 2005 12:10 pm

A380 in AA livery NEVER!
787! Yes!
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RE: A380 In A AA Livery

Mon May 09, 2005 2:04 pm

Quoting FlyMIA (Reply 6):
787! Yes!

I hope AA changes their livery before they order the bird... Polished metal looks good only on vintage airliners, unfortunately... it's sooooo 1950s... AA could learn a thing or two from Virgin or Northwest...
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RE: A380 In A AA Livery

Mon May 09, 2005 2:11 pm

AAdvice #1-AA dont change your livery
AAdvice #2-Buy the 787.
 
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RE: A380 In A AA Livery

Mon May 09, 2005 2:30 pm

Quoting BlueSky1976 (Reply 7):
I hope AA changes their livery before they order the bird... Polished metal looks good only on vintage airliners, unfortunately... it's sooooo 1950s...

I sooo agree.

Quoting Airlinerfreak (Reply 8):
AAdvice #1-AA dont change your livery

AA,

Disregard AAdvice #1


You seemed to miss Lemurs point that the 787 will have to be painted gray since the skin has no metal. Do you want AA flying brand new 787's in drab and boring gray paint?

Besides the livery is dated and hardly worthy of a next generation plane like the 787.

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A380 In A AA Livery

That is just plain sick. Hopefully it never happens.

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RE: A380 In A AA Livery

Mon May 09, 2005 2:36 pm

Quoting Byrdluvs747 (Reply 9):
You seemed to miss Lemurs point that the 787 will have to be painted gray since the skin has no metal. Do you want AA flying brand new 787's in drab and boring gray paint?

Huh? That was exactly my point. I think the 787 would look kinda drab in the battleship grey that AA was forced to use for awhile on the A300.

If AA does bring the 787 into their fleet, I think it would be a good time for them to consider a new livery, at least for the 787. They could make it something splashy for just the "flagship", and you would always know that you were looking at a 787, and that it was AA. If they're still operating in 20 years, most of their fleet will be grey cuz of widespread composites...
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RE: A380 In A AA Livery

Mon May 09, 2005 3:27 pm

Quoting Lemurs (Reply 10):
They could make it something splashy for just the "flagship",

I don't think the 787's would be the flagship of AA's fleet. The newest? yes. That title would still rest with the 777's with the FS suites.

I don't know if there's enough width to install the FS suites on 787's.
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RE: A380 In A AA Livery

Mon May 09, 2005 3:30 pm

Quoting Lemurs (Reply 10):
splashy for just the "flagship", and you would always know that you were looking at a 787

I doubt the 787 will knock the 777 off as being AA's Flagship. I for one as do many others here on a.net love the bare metal scheme on their aircraft. It saves them a ton of money by not having to paint them, and of course less weight. Now if AA should order the 787 down the line, I would hope they would not change the classic look on their other aircraft to match the 787.
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RE: A380 In A AA Livery

Mon May 09, 2005 3:36 pm

Quoting AAFLT1871 (Reply 12):
Now if AA should order the 787 down the line, I would hope they would not change the classic look on their other aircraft to match the 787.

You probably have 20 years to enjoy the current livery. AA's livery is doomed(thankfully) as composites take over, baremetal will go the way of the dodo.
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RE: A380 In A AA Livery

Mon May 09, 2005 6:18 pm

AA had some leased DC-10s for a while in the late 1980s that were painted white, then the AA livery was on top of that.

So, I guess AA could paint their B-787s white, then there AA livery on top of that, like those DC-10s.
 
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RE: A380 In A AA Livery

Mon May 09, 2005 8:22 pm

Quoting BlueSky1976 (Reply 7):
I hope AA changes their livery before they order the bird... Polished metal looks good only on vintage airliners, unfortunately... it's sooooo 1950s... AA could learn a thing or two from Virgin or Northwest...

No! AA's livery is a classic and is well known by the public, not to mention its still very smart looking on those 75's and 77's  thumbsup 
 
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RE: A380 In A AA Livery

Mon May 09, 2005 8:28 pm

I have to agree with those who say AA would change the livery. It looks quite retro. If they like retro, how about something more The Jetsons style? That would look retro and futuristic at the same time.
 
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RE: A380 In A AA Livery

Mon May 09, 2005 8:34 pm

AA's livery does not have to die with the composite airframes. WN's "Silver One" and NW's new livery is silver paint.
 
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RE: A380 In A AA Livery

Mon May 09, 2005 11:54 pm

Quoting BUFjets (Reply 17):
AA's livery does not have to die with the composite airframes. WN's "Silver One" and NW's new livery is silver paint.

That's true, they could go with silver paint. That wouldn't really give them the benefits they love so much about bare metal however, which means they can still reasonably evaluate an entirely new livery.

Also, NW's paint isn't silver. It's a metal flecked pearlescant white. You're the second person this week who has said that, so I guess it does appear that way to some people, maybe because of the photography? Either way, when you see the bird in person, you'd never call it silver. That said, it's a gorgeous paint in the sun.
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RE: A380 In A AA Livery

Tue May 10, 2005 12:44 am

Quoting Byrdluvs747 (Reply 11):
I don't know if there's enough width to install the FS suites on 787's.

You could but it would probably have to be a 2-2 configuration. Definitely not 1-2-1 like on the 777's.
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RE: A380 In A AA Livery

Tue May 10, 2005 12:52 am

LMP737,

I'm not sure, but I don't believe a 2-2 configuration would work since each of the American Airlines Flagship Suites requires immediate aisle access. In a 2-2 configuration, two of the four FS Suites would be "trapped" between the window and the adjoining suite located along the aisle of the aircraft. Perhaps a 1-1-1 configuration would solve the problem.

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RE: A380 In A AA Livery

Tue May 10, 2005 1:49 am

AA in in the business of making money, or at least trying too. Changing the livery on their entire fleet would cost alot of money, not to mention if they intend on buying the 787, they won't be spending money on a new livery, I can guarantee that.

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RE: A380 In A AA Livery

Tue May 10, 2005 1:52 am

AA777jr you miss the point. They'll have to have a different livery of sorts if they ever order the 787, because you can't polish carbon fibre composites. They'll need a paint facility, and at that point the entire thing can be put up for evaluation. Like I said, in 20 years chances are most of their fleet will be composites. Heck, I'd be willing to bet within 10-15 years more than half would be, assuming they make an economic comeback.
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RE: A380 In A AA Livery

Tue May 10, 2005 4:11 am

Interesting factoid:

Only 1 reply of 22 is of a non-American member.

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Tue May 10, 2005 4:19 am

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RE: A380 In A AA Livery

Tue May 10, 2005 4:50 am

RP Abrahams update of the classic AA tail livery, and the font chosen are remarkable.... I would only think it even better if the triple cheatline (with the darker blue) was combined with the new font and GEORGEOUS eagle.... Of course, I can't make that decision for AA, but.... also notice that the colour is actually silver on his rendering, and not polished chrome...the effect still works....
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RE: A380 In A AA Livery

Tue May 10, 2005 5:14 am

Quoting Lemurs (Reply 22):
AA777jr you miss the point.

AA777jr seems to "miss the point" more often than not i've notice. He was incorrect in this thread and incorrect in another thread about Continental and the A340, not to mention MANY, MANY other threads.
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RE: A380 In A AA Livery

Tue May 10, 2005 5:38 am

AA's livery is one of the most classic and recognizable on earth. When that shiny silver bird lands at any airport in the US, and most airports outside the US, virtually everybody automatically knows which airline it is. The bare metal is such a central part of AA's brand image. It is also pretty damn beautiful at sunset!
 
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RE: A380 In A AA Livery

Tue May 10, 2005 6:02 am

Could you imagine what an AZ A380 look like on an A380. That would be pretty ugly. They would need a new livery if they got an A380, but that wouldn't happen because I doubt they will ever get and A380.
 
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RE: A380 In A AA Livery

Tue May 10, 2005 7:33 am

Quoting Lemurs (Reply 18):
Either way, when you see the bird in person, you'd never call it silver.

Well, depending on the light, it looked anywhere from grey, thru creamish, to silver. And I've seen plenty of those up close and personal.
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RE: A380 In A AA Livery

Tue May 10, 2005 8:23 am

Quoting AAgent (Reply 20):

I'm not sure, but I don't believe a 2-2 configuration would work since each of the American Airlines Flagship Suites requires immediate aisle access. In a 2-2 configuration, two of the four FS Suites would be "trapped" between the window and the adjoining suite located along the aisle of the aircraft. Perhaps a 1-1-1 configuration would solve the problem.

You are correct AAagent, I forgot about that little factoid.  Smile
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RE: A380 In A AA Livery

Tue May 10, 2005 8:54 am

Wouldn't AA's planes still need to be painted silver (even on the metal hulls) because when the airplanes are built, the metal comes in with varying shades of green. I remember this from the 777 documentary.

Can anyone comment?

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RE: A380 In A AA Livery

Tue May 10, 2005 6:06 pm

Quoting Airlinerfreak (Reply 8):
AAdvice #1-AA dont change your livery
AAdvice #2-Buy the 787.

Agreed!!

AA doesn't need to change their livery. It looks as fresh today as it did when it first came out. I am actually surprised when I see photos of it in the 1970s, it really doesn't look that dated to me.

And IIRC, some of AA's A300s are now in a bare-metal-esque paint scheme. Initially they were grey because Airbus was concerned about corrosion, but that later changed. Forgive if I am wrong.

It wouldn't be that hard to do a bare-metal-looking paint job on a 787.


That said it is a shame that the 787 doesn't look like the concept anymore. That would have been absolutely stunning. I'm afraid I have to say the 787's new lines are ugly!
 
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RE: A380 In A AA Livery

Tue May 10, 2005 9:32 pm

I think the AA livery on the A-380 looks absolutely stunning.
One of the best I've seen so far.
I love the A-380 but I agree with the critics saying it has an ugly nose.
I think the nose is modified on that picture cos it looks really good.
 
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RE: A380 In A AA Livery

Thu May 12, 2005 3:13 pm

Quoting AAgent (Reply 20):
Perhaps a 1-1-1 configuration would solve the problem.

You're right.

When I read your reply I rembered this photo of VS' new UC suites. Down the middle you'd have that solid wall.


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RE: A380 In A AA Livery

Thu May 12, 2005 7:32 pm

These are nice pictures of the A380 in AA livery, it would truely look awesome.
But I doubt that we will see the A380 in that livery which is really a pitty.
The only US carriers that I can think of using the A380 at some time will maybe be NW and United. They are the only US carriers that are now using the 747.
The use of the A380 could be a good option for US-Asia connections so NW is a likely customer and it seems that they want to have a dual supplier strategy using Airbus and Boeing aircraft

Quoting Aloha717200 (Reply 33):
That said it is a shame that the 787 doesn't look like the concept anymore. That would have been absolutely stunning. I'm afraid I have to say the 787's new lines are ugly!

The 787 will look in some way very similar to the good ol´767, so the 787 in AA livery will look great as well.
AA had some problems with the livery on the A300 at the beginning so they used a grey color scheme instead of the bare metall, but now they managed that.
With the 787 they will do the same what NW did with the A330 -use silver paint that looks great as well.
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