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RE: United Continues To Disappoint

Wed Jun 01, 2005 5:48 pm

Hi Ualphlcs,

great fooled me with that title, haha!
I'm glad United solved yet another issue and I hope they will emerge from Ch.11 soon.

Good luck to United and it's employees!. I'm looking forward flying United again later this year.  Smile
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RE: United Continues To Disappoint

Wed Jun 01, 2005 11:35 pm

I should say that being under Ch.11 United has done a great job somehow managing to provide hot meals on domestic flights. Can't say the same about the rest of the carriers.

(This observation is based strictly on my personal experience.)
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RE: United Continues To Disappoint

Wed Jun 01, 2005 11:45 pm

There is no overcapacity problem. Read all the info on Mike Boyd's site ( Fares are low because everyone is trying to generate cash today to pay SOME of their operating bills tomorrow. Expect record load factors this summer, with many in the mid to upper -80's. The network carriers have mostly reported bookings at near or record high levels for the summer.

UA has crossed quite a few bridges that other carriers are still in denial about.
Let's see what AMFA does to NW.
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RE: United Continues To Disappoint

Thu Jun 02, 2005 1:06 am

Perhaps things will rapidly improve for UA this quarter and they'll lose only HALF a billion dollars instead of a billion.
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RE: United Continues To Disappoint

Thu Jun 02, 2005 5:42 am

I especially enjoyed the one about the how the UAL livery sucks and that is why they must die.

Quoting MD80fanatic (Reply 13):
Might as well face it, all the airlines are in trouble.

Except WN, of course.

Quoting Hiflyer (Reply 23):
And that is the rub...I agree wholeheartedly that overall the chapt 11 process has been abused by other companies...

Absolutely. Some have been in and out many times. I think GM will be next myself. That will take decades to work through.

Quoting BAW716 (Reply 47):
United's business plan is predicated upon a significant near-term rebound in revenue. In particular, United's forecasts that its passenger unit revenue (revenue per available seat mile) will rise sharply in the near term due to a signficant rise in yields. This forecase for unit revenue growth in the next few years is substantiall more optimistic than forecasts of industry observers and the Board's consultants. The Board does not concur with United's explanation for this divergence.

Wow, did the loan board peg that one right on the head or what? How could UAL miss that one so badly? No wonder they got turned down.
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