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Baggage Handler Killed At DCA This Am

Wed Jun 08, 2005 12:50 am

Terrible accident at DCA this morning...

http://www.nbc4.com/news/4578172/detail.html
 
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RE: Baggage Handler Killed At DCA This Am

Wed Jun 08, 2005 1:00 am

Godbless her and her family.
 
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RE: Baggage Handler Killed At DCA This Am

Wed Jun 08, 2005 1:07 am

All of our prayers are with her family. This is a tragedy.
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RE: Baggage Handler Killed At DCA This Am

Wed Jun 08, 2005 1:11 am

I am confused as to what the article is saying..How do you become pinned between the loader and the plane while driving? Was she on the belt loader itself? Just asking because I have no idea how this stuff works. Nevertheless a tragedy.
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RE: Baggage Handler Killed At DCA This Am

Wed Jun 08, 2005 1:13 am

Horrible news Sad My thoughts are with her family today.
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RE: Baggage Handler Killed At DCA This Am

Wed Jun 08, 2005 1:16 am

6:30 am very early morning death ... ruined the day for DCA people
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RE: Baggage Handler Killed At DCA This Am

Wed Jun 08, 2005 1:32 am

I'm also a little confused....if someone was driving the belt loader how can you not see a person. They should've been driving at a walking speed. Truly sad for this event never had to happen if people were more careful.
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RE: Baggage Handler Killed At DCA This Am

Wed Jun 08, 2005 1:34 am

From the photos it looks like she got stuck under the plane.
Anyone else know anything more?
 
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RE: Baggage Handler Killed At DCA This Am

Wed Jun 08, 2005 1:37 am

Horrible- it said a US Airways EXPRESS plane; I'm assuming an RJ then.

Makes you wonder how something like that could happen, especially to the point of being a fatality!

Be safe people!
 
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RE: Baggage Handler Killed At DCA This Am

Wed Jun 08, 2005 1:51 am

Quoting Jtamu97 (Reply 3):
I am confused as to what the article is saying..How do you become pinned between the loader and the plane while driving?

I watched the news this afternoon and it looks as though she was driving the belt loader up to a US Airways Express E170 cargo bin and some how drove it straight under the fuselage and became pinnedwhile still in the drivers seat.

She may have forgotten to set the brake or put it in park and it drove forward and pinned her underneath.

It is a horrible accident and looks as though workers and even many people in the aiport witnessed it. I'm not sure if passengers were on the plane but it must have horrible.

I am based out of DCA with US and I'm now wondering if I have seen this person around. It will be truly devastating for a close knit crew at DCA.
 
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RE: Baggage Handler Killed At DCA This Am

Wed Jun 08, 2005 2:07 am

One other note. I worked on the ramp at DCA for 6 years. This is the 3rd ramp incident in my years at DCA that has resulted in a fatality. One was a ramp agent that walked into a propeller and another was a ramp agent who drove into a door (like a garge door) while driving into the bottom of the terminal to baggage belt area.

People need to be cautious out there. I have a feeling most fatalities are due, in part, to inexperience. That is why we need to pay better salaries and retain experienced people on the ramp.
 
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RE: Baggage Handler Killed At DCA This Am

Wed Jun 08, 2005 2:21 am

This probably happen because there was a hurry to get the plane out on time and she could have easily hit the gas petal instead of the brake petal from the photos it looks like she drove right into the plane and got wedged in there
 
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RE: Baggage Handler Killed At DCA This Am

Wed Jun 08, 2005 4:31 am

Somebody walked into a prop before? Ouch. Sad news
 
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RE: Baggage Handler Killed At DCA This Am

Wed Jun 08, 2005 4:37 am

The ONLY good thing about the prop incident is that whomever it was probably didn't feel much of it. Need to pay attention out on the ramp fellow rampers.

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RE: Baggage Handler Killed At DCA This Am

Wed Jun 08, 2005 4:42 am

Quoting B744F (Reply 13):
Somebody walked into a prop before?

Yes!

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METRO
In Brief
Friday, June 28, 2002; Page B03


THE REGION

Medical Condition Blamed in Death

A US Airways Express ramp worker who was fatally struck by a plane propeller at Reagan National Airport last Aug. 5 likely got too close to the propeller because his judgment was impaired by a medical condition and possibly an anti-anxiety medication, the National Transportation Safety Board has concluded.

The NTSB determined that the worker, identified by airport officials as Samuel Harris, 47, of Springdale in Prince George's County, had removed the chocks from beneath the nose landing gear so the plane could taxi out for departure.

After throwing the chocks to the side, another worker signaled the pilot to pull forward. But the removed chocks had landed in the path of the plane's landing gear, and Harris tried to move them before the pilot had a chance to cut the engine, the NTSB found.

Harris, who had returned to work that day after extended leave, had hyperthyroidism, which can affect concentration, memory and attention span, the NTSB said. The heat could have exacerbated the effects of his condition, the NTSB found.

Harris also was taking a low dose of the anti-anxiety medication Alprazolam, which can "impair performance of many cognitive and psychomotor tasks," the board found.

[Edited 2005-06-07 21:42:55]
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RE: Baggage Handler Killed At DCA This Am

Wed Jun 08, 2005 4:58 am

That can't be a good site for the passengers to see a guy walk into a prop either.
 
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RE: Baggage Handler Killed At DCA This Am

Wed Jun 08, 2005 5:02 am

It was ship 803 that was involved, at Gate 23 in the center pier. The morning flight to ORD was cancelled for the investigation.

Word is that the woman only had a month on the job. US has been hiring tons of MidAtlantic workers at DCA.

Very sad.
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RE: Baggage Handler Killed At DCA This Am

Wed Jun 08, 2005 7:16 am

I found some scary information one day in the NTSB accident lists. A King Air that I used to fly (N753D, a B-100) had a fatality from a ramper walking into the prop after disconnecting ground power. I flew this airplane for about two years right after the accident, and never knew about it until recently.

God bless the families of those involved in these accidents.
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RE: Baggage Handler Killed At DCA This Am

Wed Jun 08, 2005 7:48 am

An airport ramp is a dangerous place. This is why we don´t like people not connected with the work to walk around there.

Jan

[Edited 2005-06-08 00:48:37]
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RE: Baggage Handler Killed At DCA This Am

Wed Jun 08, 2005 8:01 am

One of the local news channels here in DC reported that witnesses saw the woman pumping hard on the pedals just before the accident. They didn't expand on that piece of info so one has to wonder if she was frantically trying to stop the vehicle before she ran into the plane? Could have been a mechanical problem.
 
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RE: Baggage Handler Killed At DCA This Am

Wed Jun 08, 2005 9:14 am

Man, I had hyperthyroidism bad for years working on the ramp and I never had a problem. It's been about a year since I had my thyroid nuked and I will tell you I feel better now.

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RE: Baggage Handler Killed At DCA This Am

Wed Jun 08, 2005 10:40 am

It seems that the woman involved was a 23-year old single mother of two.

My thoughts and prayers are with her children.  Sad
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RE: Baggage Handler Killed At DCA This Am

Wed Jun 08, 2005 10:51 am

Very sad day for aviation in the Northeast today. First the SAA flight and now this. May the victims and their families find peace.
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RE: Baggage Handler Killed At DCA This Am

Wed Jun 08, 2005 10:58 am

Thanks for that Fox News like sensationalism September 11.

I wasn't sure what the "Scene of death" looked like.  sarcastic 

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RE: Baggage Handler Killed At DCA This Am

Wed Jun 08, 2005 11:06 am

Heard about this today at work, the woman had dropped something went to pick it up as she was still driving the belt loader and went right into the aircraft killing her instantly.

I won't go into how long she has been on the job because now is the time to mourn for her and her child who will not have a mom coming home to her tonight.

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RE: Baggage Handler Killed At DCA This Am

Wed Jun 08, 2005 11:09 am

Quoting B744F (Reply 16):
That can't be a good site for the passengers to see a guy walk into a prop either.

I remember this incident...DCA went into a ground stop during a beautiful day and we inquired to the CC about what was going on. They told us there was an accident that left Human Remains spread across the ramp...We later heard about what happened through the news.

I'll spare you the rest of the details I heard later.
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RE: Baggage Handler Killed At DCA This Am

Wed Jun 08, 2005 11:16 am

It was a 170.

Also many belt loaders have a throttle lock to keep the belt going at a faster speed or idle up during cold months. Unfortuately, some like to use it as cruise control.

Anybody who has driven a loader here knows that they are not the most stable machines. They are very long, with a lot of weight (including the driver) in front of the wheels. This leads to some interesting bounces if you're going to fast. Be careful out there fellow rampers.
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RE: Baggage Handler Killed At DCA This Am

Wed Jun 08, 2005 11:22 am

Thanks for that Fox News like sensationalism September 11.


Yea, that posting was uncalled for...and tasteless
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RE: Baggage Handler Killed At DCA This Am

Wed Jun 08, 2005 11:45 am

Flew out of DCA this morning, saw on the local news, had no delays on flight to DFW.

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RE: Baggage Handler Killed At DCA This Am

Wed Jun 08, 2005 1:51 pm

A bit of irony...an ad for the GE GenX engine appeared at the bottom of the article linked in the first post when I loaded it.
 
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RE: Baggage Handler Killed At DCA This Am

Wed Jun 08, 2005 1:56 pm

Quoting Aa777jr (Reply 29):
Flew out of DCA this morning, saw on the local news, had no delays on flight to DFW.

Things lagged up later in the day, supposedly because of the bad weather in the south, even though I was going to IAH. When coming to the airport I saw news crews outside of the US Airways departures area. I saw the 170 with crews around it when taxiing out, but didn't put the two together. God bless her and her family.
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RE: Baggage Handler Killed At DCA This Am

Wed Jun 08, 2005 3:34 pm

Aircraft involved was a EMB170. Crew members were the only people on board at the time and they said that they felt the impact. The flight that the aircraft was going to operate had been cancelled. truly sad news
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RE: Baggage Handler Killed At DCA This Am

Wed Jun 08, 2005 5:52 pm

horrible accident. we had this incident mentioned in our briefing (B6) yesterday morning. Safety is #1 on the ramp anywhere but unfortunatly freak accidents due occur.
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RE: Baggage Handler Killed At DCA This Am

Wed Jun 08, 2005 6:37 pm

Quoting B744F (Reply 13):
Somebody walked into a prop before? Ouch. Sad news

Rotating props could be very dangerous as this related story gives an example:
1. When I did my army service as an AH-1 mechanic, I received a safety brief on my first day before starting to work near this helicopter. I was told that in the past (probably the early 80's, but I'm not sure) they had an almost tragedy with an army officer being struck by the tail rotor. The tail rotor is very dangerous, and in the AH-1 it rotates in the same level of a persons head and upper body . Furthermore, it is hard to notice in some conditions (early morning, dusk, night, etc.) when rotating, although in the IAF the tips are painted orange. In this incident an army officer approached the Cobra without noticing the tail rotor, and got hit. He was lucky to wear a battlefield helmet, so he survived, but got a concussion and also lost an ear (they have found it 200 meters away). The Cobra on the otherhand needed some repairs and inspections of the rear rotor, power transmission system and other motion components.
 
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RE: Baggage Handler Killed At DCA This Am

Wed Jun 08, 2005 6:40 pm

he survived, but got a concussion and also lost an ear

Man, that guy is lucky. I bet not many people can say they walked into a rotor or propeller and lived.

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RE: Baggage Handler Killed At DCA This Am

Wed Jun 08, 2005 10:54 pm

People can and do survive propeller strikes. Last year Chicago Express (ATA Connection) had a propeller strike a ramp agent. Luckily the prop was in feather. The ramper suffered a broken arm, fractured skull, some lacerations and other relatively minor injuries. The incident was not publicized much even within the company. We found out when we had to ship the new prop out as AOG.
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RE: Baggage Handler Killed At DCA This Am

Thu Jun 09, 2005 12:50 am

This is a sad incident indeed. How can one be so unlucky.
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RE: Baggage Handler Killed At DCA This Am

Thu Jun 09, 2005 1:07 am

Quoting RIPCORDD (Reply 12):

People need to be cautious out there. I have a feeling most fatalities are due, in part, to inexperience. That is why we need to pay better salaries and retain experienced people on the ramp.

I worked the ramp for 3 1/2 years before coming to flight control.
I don't think most of the incidents/accidents that happen are due
to inexperience or that paying people more will fix that. I think
most of the stuff that happens is from people being in a hurry,
not paying attention, or not following procedures. I've seen
fairly senior people do dumb things. Although I will agree that
a lot of times paying peanuts, you get monkeys.

If this happened because the brakes on the belt loader failed,
no amount of experience or pay would have prevented it.
 
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RE: Baggage Handler Killed At DCA This Am

Thu Jun 09, 2005 1:14 am

At my work in YVR one guy was very lucky 2% as he waked into a winding down proppellor and sustained no injuries, it just knock his ear protection off, and yes he still works there
 
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RE: Baggage Handler Killed At DCA This Am

Thu Jun 09, 2005 1:24 am

Quoting DCAflyboy (Reply 11):
People need to be cautious out there. I have a feeling most fatalities are due, in part, to inexperience. That is why we need to pay better salaries and retain experienced people on the ramp.

I disagree. While newer ramp employees don't have the experience, that's not necessarily a bad thing. Newbies are probably MORE tuned into and have a greater situational awareness because of their experience. Many senior ramp folks have--for better or worse--grown complacent. It is that complacency in taking shortcuts, in getting too comfortable, and in losing situation awareness and safety arousal that leads to accidents.

While NO ONE is immune, it is an inaccurate statement on your part to draw that conclusion. I've worked on the ramp and have extensive safety experience, both in ground ops and crash investigation, and can tell you that it's difficult enough to divine trends from ground damage accidents or injury accidents, but the least experienced folks are NOT the most prone to these kind of things.

And I won't even address your statement about salaries. There is no correlation.
 
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RE: Baggage Handler Killed At DCA This Am

Thu Jun 09, 2005 1:25 am

Indeed a shame and a tragedy. With all the well choreographed movement at airports with such heavy equipment and aircraft we become conditioned to expecting all to happen without incident. Let's all be thankful that these events are a rarity.
 
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RE: Baggage Handler Killed At DCA This Am

Thu Jun 09, 2005 1:34 am

Quoting A330323X (Reply 17):
Word is that the woman only had a month on the job. US has been hiring tons of MidAtlantic workers at DCA

I believe that US is contracting jobs at DCA. Their main contractor is ATS - Airport Terminal Services.
If the victim worked for ATS, its not their first loss of human life on the ramp.
Also, ATS training should be better. They are sending ramp supervisor from Fort Myers Florida to teach new rampers at DC how to deice aircraft.
And the funny thing is, that he told us - that the only time he deiced aircraft was with the floor mop and warm water. South Florida doesn't need it.

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RE: Baggage Handler Killed At DCA This Am

Thu Jun 09, 2005 4:37 am

Quoting Lindy (Reply 42):
I believe that US is contracting jobs at DCA. Their main contractor is ATS - Airport Terminal Services.
If the victim worked for ATS, its not their first loss of human life on the ramp.

No, the woman was a fleet service agent employed by the MidAtlantic (EMB-170) division of US Airways.

US has recently contracted out all of their line Utility personnel--the people who clean the aircraft. Perhaps you're thinking of them. US has also contracted out ramp workers in most smaller stations (less than 10 mainline flights daily), but certainly not DCA.
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RE: Baggage Handler Killed At DCA This Am

Thu Jun 09, 2005 8:36 am

Quoting Pictues (Reply 39):
At my work in YVR one guy was very lucky 2% as he waked into a winding down proppellor and sustained no injuries, it just knock his ear protection off, and yes he still works there

Was it that guy that was working on a QX flight about 8 years ago or so?
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RE: Baggage Handler Killed At DCA This Am

Fri Jun 10, 2005 12:39 am

Quoting A330323X (Reply 43):
US has recently contracted out all of their line Utility personnel--the people who clean the aircraft. Perhaps you're thinking of them.

Lately I saw many job postings in Washington Post for US at DCA. All of them from ATS. So I guess they hired cleaners only.

I also have learned today that US is contracting staff at airports with less than 10 mainline flights a day. Before they contracted jobs to most outstations.
Almost a decade ago I worked for ATS on US contract at IAD. We did everything from refueling to cleaning aircraft and pushbacks.
At the peak time, we had 168 daily departures from 8 gates (20 mainline flights, 100 metrojet flights and 48 express flights).
US Airways staff took over IAD station after MetroJet died.

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RE: Baggage Handler Killed At DCA This Am

Fri Jun 10, 2005 3:22 am

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1/Memorial trust fund in honor of Yolanda Corbett

The loss of our fellow employee Yolanda Corbett at
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many of you, as well as some of our customers who
learned of this terrible accident through media
reports. The outreach to help Yolanda's two daughters
ages 11 and 12, and other members of her family, has
been extraordinary.

Over the past few days, US Airways has taken the steps
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US Airways has contributed $20,000 -- $10,000 for each
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Standley Brady, a US Airways Fleet Service Agent at
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"Our employees have been working closely with
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RE: Baggage Handler Killed At DCA This Am

Fri Jun 10, 2005 4:18 am

Quoting ValkyrieRamp (Reply 36):
Luckily the prop was in feather.

Wait a sec. I'm lost here. If a prop was feathered, how was it spinning? Did the guy just walk right into it or what?

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RE: Baggage Handler Killed At DCA This Am

Fri Jun 10, 2005 7:28 am

GQFluffy:

Turboprop propellers can be feathered while the engine is running.

We got this notice today in respect to the tragic accident at DCA...

"To All Employees:

Unfortunately, a tragic accident happened yesterday at DCA where a US Airways ramp service employee was killed. She was driving a belt loader up to an Embraer aircraft when, for reasons not yet known, the belt loader went under the aircraft, pinning her between the belt loader and aircraft, killing her instantly.

This was a terrible tragedy for the employee’s family, friends, and co-workers,
and the airline community as a whole. As we keep these people in our thoughts, we also need to take a moment to think about our own personal safety, and the safety of those around us. Ask yourself:

“What can I do to ensure this accident doesn’t happen to me?”
“What can I do to help ensure my safety and the safety of those around me?”

Below are just a few reminders of policy and/or procedure to help ensure our
safety while operating equipment on the ramp.

• Operate only ground equipment that the employee has been fully trained and
qualified to safely operate.

• Remove from service and report immediately to the Ramp Lead any vehicle with defective brakes (foot brake or parking brake).

• Report to the Ramp Lead any other equipment condition or damage that requires corrective action.

• When approaching aircraft with ground equipment, a full stop must be made upon crossing safety clearance lines or a distance of at least eight (8) feet from the aircraft.

• Unsafe or malfunctioning ground equipment shall not be operated. It is the responsibility of the operator to ensure ground equipment is in a safe operating condition before use. (Check: brakes, glass, steering, tires, hitches, horn, etc.)

• Always drive within posted speed limits or slower, as determined by weather cconditions.

• During gate arrival, all ground equipment must remain outside the safety clearance lines, including approach from the aft, until the aircraft’s lower red beacon light has been turned off by the Captain. This action signifies the engines have been shutdown and the aircraft is fully parked.

Many established laws, policies, procedures, etc. are in place to protect us and the people or objects around us. Take a moment to think about your own personal safety and the steps you can take to protect yourself and those around you.

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RE: Baggage Handler Killed At DCA This Am

Fri Jun 10, 2005 7:43 am

Got one question...

Do they follow ORM (Operational Risk Management) as a ramper at airports? Working on the flight line is no joke. Looks like she wasn't aware of her surroundings. This incident and the ramper that walked into the Dash 8 prop a few years ago are all preventable. It's sad to hear about that. May her rest in peace.

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RE: Baggage Handler Killed At DCA This Am

Fri Jun 10, 2005 8:34 am

Quoting Lindy (Reply 45):
Good old times.


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