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mainMAN
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RE: Air New Zealand From Manchester?!

Wed Jul 27, 2005 6:16 am

Quoting 7LBAC111 (Reply 94):
Quoting MainMAN (Reply 85):
If this sort of thing doesn't interest you, then you have the choice not to read, nor contribute to the discussion.

Indeed I do. But perhaps you will refer to the comments of other members too before rounding on me

I wasn't rounding on you, I just think the thread was started in very good faith, moreover by a member even newer than me! There is a place here for speculation, and loads of room for disagreement.
 
ZKOJH
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RE: Air New Zealand From Manchester?!

Thu Jul 28, 2005 9:02 am

for 'gayrugbyman'

it seems someone got there information from a bad sorce, as nothing has come out from either NZ, or any1 that works there , and nothing has been made to the NZSX either, who would be the first to know!! might hear something about 29 Aug tho, nothing solid to put my hands on, lol
 
7LBAC111
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RE: Air New Zealand From Manchester?!

Thu Jul 28, 2005 4:48 pm

Quoting Zkojh (Reply 101):
for 'gayrugbyman'

it seems someone got there information from a bad sorce

Not sure a cargo agent at ANZ Cargo is the most reputable of sources anyway....

7LBAC111
 
KennyK
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RE: Air New Zealand From Manchester?!

Thu Jul 28, 2005 5:15 pm

Just to put a fly in the ointment, Emirates and Qatar airways are getting loads of new aircraft, and they already fly into MAN. They might increase their services and effectively operate MAN to NZ and Oz via Dubai/Abu Dhabi.

Couldn't they also go Middle East MAN LAX NZ/Oz Middle East, around the world effectively, or is that too far fetched? Give them 777/A346/A350s something to do.
 
David_itl
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RE: Air New Zealand From Manchester?!

Fri Jul 29, 2005 6:40 am

Quoting Billy (Reply 95):
if you were feeling smug about a Thai service starting next year

Doesn't 3 or 4 weekly from 2007 sound better? A year earlier than they originally planned - perhaps MAN's powers of persuaion have worked?

Quoting KennyK (Reply 103):
and Qatar airways are getting loads of new aircraft, and they already fly into MAN. They might increase their services and effectively operate MAN to NZ and Oz via Dubai/Abu Dhabi.

According to a recent CAA survey, around 25% of EK's MAN passengers continued through to Australia in 2003, with the overall MAN-wherever-Australia sector having over 180,000 passengers (northwest England's O+D figure to Australia was 140,000).

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 61):
Quoting MAAN (Reply 41):
I see enough passengers each day who are on a MAN-ORD-LAX routing to suggest that there may well be enough demand for a direct route, although of course that would see a big drop for AA.

There probably is, but the yield would be horrendous.

How succesful do you think a weekly VS service to LAX would be, given that they should be able to fill up via Virgin Holidays. They should be able to operate this in conjuction with a LAS service and also routes to the Caribbean as and when a 2nd 744 becomes "based".

David
 
mainMAN
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RE: Air New Zealand From Manchester?!

Fri Jul 29, 2005 9:29 am

Quoting David_itl (Reply 104):
Doesn't 3 or 4 weekly from 2007 sound better? A year earlier than they originally planned - perhaps MAN's powers of persuaion have worked?

I take it you're speaking hypothetically? They seem to want TG pretty badly but have they managed to persuade TG to start sooner than planned?

Wouldn't a TG 340 add a welcome bit of colour to T2 !?......amidst the mud black of PIA and miserable Ryanair blue! The sooner the better.



Quoting David_itl (Reply 104):
How succesful do you think a weekly VS service to LAX would be

Very successful, although used almost exclusively by leisure passengers on 7/14 night fly-drives. I reckon MAN to LAX or SFO can sustain a bit more than that (in the long term). Where would I find the O&D figures between NW England and California?
 
MAH4546
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RE: Air New Zealand From Manchester?!

Fri Jul 29, 2005 9:44 am

Quoting David_itl (Reply 104):
How succesful do you think a weekly VS service to LAX would be, given that they should be able to fill up via Virgin Holidays. They should be able to operate this in conjuction with a LAS service and also routes to the Caribbean as and when a 2nd 744 becomes "based".

Virgin's business model makes it a much more viable route for Virgin. However, the long stage length of the flight could still hurt it. Virgin is better off expanding from MAN to the Caribbean and/or Miami, where they could do much better. It's too bad they always promise MAN more, but never give it. They could do very well.
 
gayrugbyman
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RE: Air New Zealand From Manchester?!

Tue Aug 02, 2005 6:36 pm

All this talk of a Manchester to LA service is Virgin on the ridiculous now! As long as one day LA can BMI holiday destinAAtion direct from MAN I won't feel I've been Delta blow.

Hehehe  Wink
 
GVBIG
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RE: Air New Zealand From Manchester?!

Tue Aug 02, 2005 6:40 pm

Quoting MainMAN (Reply 105):
Wouldn't a TG 340 add a welcome bit of colour to T2 !?......amidst the mud black of PIA and miserable Ryanair blue! The sooner the better.

You do realise that Ryanair now fly from T1 at MAN don't you?  Wink
 
mainMAN
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RE: Air New Zealand From Manchester?!

Tue Aug 02, 2005 7:36 pm

Quoting GayrugbyMAN (Reply 107):
All this talk of a Manchester to LA service is Virgin on the ridiculous now! As long as one day LA can BMI holiday destinAAtion direct from MAN I won't feel I've been Delta blow.

LOL

Quoting GVBIG (Reply 108):
You do realise that Ryanair now fly from T1 at MAN don't you?

No I didn't know that. Never pay much attention to FR!
 
matt24wigan
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RE: Air New Zealand From Manchester?!

Tue Aug 02, 2005 11:39 pm

hi there, something like that would be on nz's website anway in an official statement, there A320's are leased arent they, including other planes in there fleet
 
7LBAC111
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RE: Air New Zealand From Manchester?!

Wed Aug 03, 2005 2:49 am

Quoting Matt24wigan (Reply 110):
there A320's are leased arent they, including other planes in there fleet

What difference does that make?
 
gayrugbyman
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RE: Air New Zealand From Manchester?!

Wed Aug 03, 2005 4:59 am

It night nake a big difference....who knows........
 
ZKOJH
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RE: Air New Zealand From Manchester?!

Wed Aug 03, 2005 5:04 am

yep , 10 are on lease from ilfc and other places, and 5 have been brought right out by NZ,
last total was 3 A320's left 2x for freedomair, and 1 for NZ, tho think you are kinda going off topic here tho, lol
 
ZK-NBT
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RE: Air New Zealand From Manchester?!

Wed Aug 03, 2005 5:18 pm

Remember NZ sold 1 A320 before it was delivered. ZK-OJJ. I think that would of been owned by NZ.
 
gayrugbyman
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RE: Air New Zealand From Manchester?!

Wed Aug 03, 2005 6:30 pm

MAN LA AKL with an A320, I really hope this happens!!  Wink
 
cornish
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RE: Air New Zealand From Manchester?!

Wed Aug 03, 2005 6:39 pm

Quoting GayrugbyMAN (Reply 115):
MAN LA AKL with an A320, I really hope this happens!!

I hear BMI are looking into it as we speak  Wink
 
GVBIG
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RE: Air New Zealand From Manchester?!

Wed Aug 03, 2005 6:42 pm

Cornish, almost.
BMI will use a leased Saab 340-ER to operate MAN-AKL nonstop  Wink
 
gayrugbyman
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RE: Air New Zealand From Manchester?!

Wed Aug 03, 2005 7:37 pm

I thought BMI were looking at a Tiger Moth ER backed up by a hot air balloon...?
 
matt24wigan
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RE: Air New Zealand From Manchester?!

Thu Aug 04, 2005 1:35 am

what does akl airport look like now? regarding the upgrades and what will it be like at the end of november, when we next arrive there? (myself and family 4 holiday) to all those new zealanders.
 
mainMAN
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RE: Air New Zealand From Manchester?!

Thu Aug 04, 2005 1:42 am

Quoting GayrugbyMAN (Reply 118):
I thought BMI were looking at a Tiger Moth ER backed up by a hot air balloon...?

The hot air balloon will contain one of those green plastic petrol cans you buy from BP, just in case of emergency refueling over the Pacific.

Don't you mean a Tiger Moth LR? AFAIK, BMI use the ER on Aberdeen-Groningen, but only on Tuesdays, unless following a bank holiday, when increased traffic means they use a Caravelle.
 
gayrugbyman
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RE: Air New Zealand From Manchester?!

Thu Aug 04, 2005 1:48 am

Ahhhhh we shouldn't mock! But we will!
 
ZKOJH
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RE: Air New Zealand From Manchester?!

Thu Aug 04, 2005 9:15 am

'what does akl airport look like now? regarding the upgrades and what will it be like at the end of november, when we next arrive there? (myself and family 4 holiday) to all those new zealanders.'

AKL- still a building site, and still be by nov, me thinks, hope its change since i was last there a couple of months ago, and i'll know when i return in Nov too,
 
ZKSUJ
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RE: Air New Zealand From Manchester?!

Thu Aug 04, 2005 8:29 pm

Quoting Matt24wigan (Reply 119):
what does akl airport look like now? regarding the upgrades and what will it be like at the end of november, when we next arrive there? (myself and family 4 holiday) to all those new zealanders.

You will still have a long wait in the immigration line and an even longer wait at the 'anything to declare' line  Wink
Other than that, its fine and should have the tope storey nearly done.
 
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NZ107
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RE: Air New Zealand From Manchester?!

Sun Aug 07, 2005 7:05 pm

Quoting ZKSUJ (Reply 123):
You will still have a long wait in the immigration line and an even longer wait at the 'anything to declare' line
Other than that, its fine and should have the tope storey nearly done.

Yeah, and add in the ones that push-in, in front of you... making it longer than it is.. Lucky we had First Class priority last time we arrived back in AKL! But then again we had to wait because there was a massive backlog at 1PM in Jan, end of the holidays..

A little off-topic here: I'm sort of planning a trip to MEL and was just wondering if these would be 74R's I would be flying on:NZ123 16 Jan, NZ 124 22 Jan. Thanks in advance for any answers. Also, Where abouts is row 28 on the 74R's?
 
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RE: Air New Zealand From Manchester?!

Sun Aug 07, 2005 10:27 pm

Quoting NZ107 (Reply 124):
Where abouts is row 28 on the 74R's?

Take a look for yourself at
http://www.airnz.co.nz/travelinfo/on...eating/boeing_747400_new_popup.htm

Quoting NZ107 (Reply 124):
I'm sort of planning a trip to MEL and was just wondering if these would be 74R's I would be flying on:NZ123 16 Jan, NZ 124 22 Jan

Since NZ123 is (usually) an aircraft that has come in from the U.S. it is extreemely likely that it would be one of the refitted ones.

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