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CB777
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JAT Airways At JFK?

Sat Jul 30, 2005 10:13 am

Yesterday, July 28,2005 I was driving to JFK to pick up my brother, I noticed on one of the signs that shows the airlines and what termianl they are in, well one of the signs said JAT. I didnt know JAT flew to JFK, does anyone know if these are charter flights or scheduled flights?


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levg79
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RE: JAT Airways At JFK?

Sat Jul 30, 2005 10:43 am

Not according to their website. Maybe someone else could shed more light on the subject.
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LUV4JFK
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RE: JAT Airways At JFK?

Sat Jul 30, 2005 11:39 am

Currently, JAT has no scheduled or charter service from JFK. At one point, JAT was codesharing with Uzbekistan when they use to fly from JFK to Belgrade. Now, Uzbekistan flies through Riga because JAT was going to start nonstop service this summer to JFK but it never happened. They were going to lease a 767 (-300 I believe) to start services, but I have no idea why this flight never took off.

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BEG2IAH
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RE: JAT Airways At JFK?

Sat Jul 30, 2005 12:17 pm

LUV4JFK,

You are absolutely right. There will be no JAT at JFK in the next few months at least. It seems that possible problems are not only commercial in nature. There are some political issues that Director General Mr. Starcevic addressed the other day. He said that JAT would use some US based company to do the flights. I have no idea what this means.

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RE: JAT Airways At JFK?

Sat Jul 30, 2005 2:03 pm

Quoting BEG2IAH (Reply 3):
He said that JAT would use some US based company to do the flights. I have no idea what this means.

And another load of diddly squat being announced from BEG...  no 
 
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RE: JAT Airways At JFK?

Sat Jul 30, 2005 2:31 pm

JoKeR,

As some people say: I'll believe it when I see it.  Smile

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RE: JAT Airways At JFK?

Sat Jul 30, 2005 3:10 pm

Do you think we are going blind BEG2IAH?  eyepopping  Its either that or JAT's guys have gone deaf!
 
CB777
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RE: JAT Airways At JFK?

Sun Jul 31, 2005 5:17 am

Thats too bad, JAT is not back at JFK, My first flight ever was on JAT DC-10 from JFK-ZAG back in 1987.


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Aleksandar
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RE: JAT Airways At JFK?

Sun Jul 31, 2005 5:50 am

I think they should first figure out what they really want and from then, things could get better and JAT might return to JFK.

Also, things have dramaically changed in that market. The easiest thing to do is to lease some 767s. Full coach class now doesn't mean flights will be profitable, so they need passengers in business class and they also need to attract transit passengers from other countries in the region. This is the goal JAT should have and to achieve it, they must work very hard on quality of their product. After reading some comments made by the JAT spokesperson that passengers prefer their national carrier did not only made me laugh but made me realize that people in JAT have no wish to change their way of thinking and THAT seems like the biggest obstacle for the airline.
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RE: JAT Airways At JFK?

Sun Jul 31, 2005 9:17 pm

It seems Uzbekistan Airways code shares with anybody...prior to the JAT code share they code shared w/Air Ukraine and the flight stopped in Kiev before continuing to Tashkent...I remember the JAT DC-10's to BEG and ZAG, it would be nice to have them back again flying their own metal...I hope the political ramifications are not the problem, I'd hope that was done by now....
 
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RE: JAT Airways At JFK?

Sun Jul 31, 2005 11:02 pm

Yeah, I agree.. HY just flies wherever there is no competition trans-atlantic, and then jump when another carrier begins serving.
Aleksandar, extremely-well said about jat. I agree 100%. Did you see that Deloitte. report on their financial situation?
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RE: JAT Airways At JFK?

Mon Aug 01, 2005 1:49 am

One thing is clear, Jat Airways should be privatized. Official statements that leave us with more questions rather than answers would not be accepted by investors, nor should they be acceptable for Serbian taxpayers.

Anyone know whether the employment in Jat has been streamlined yet, as was initially announced a few months ago? Perhaps the plan is to wait until after the tourist season? Similar restructuring questions can be asked about the retirement date for the remaining Boeing 727s and DC-9s; livery issues; the Embraer 175 question, etc.
 
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RE: JAT Airways At JFK?

Mon Aug 01, 2005 4:35 am

Quoting JU101 (Reply 11):
Anyone know whether the employment in Jat has been streamlined yet, as was initially announced a few months ago?

It has, I know few people who have taken up the retrenchment package and left the airline.
 
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RE: JAT Airways At JFK?

Mon Aug 01, 2005 6:10 am

Quoting UN_B732 (Reply 10):
Aleksandar, extremely-well said about jat. I agree 100%. Did you see that Deloitte. report on their financial situation?

Thanks. No, I haven't seen Deloitte report.

Quoting JU101 (Reply 11):
Official statements that leave us with more questions rather than answers would not be accepted by investors, nor should they be acceptable for Serbian taxpayers.

Not only that they don't ask Serbian taxpayers, but they're not interested in public opinion (I mean JAT). Average Serbian passenger should use JAT, according to Mrs. Prlja because it is a national product. Does it sound sane? NOT AT ALL!!!

Quoting JU101 (Reply 11):
retirement date for the remaining Boeing 727s and DC-9s

727s by the end of summer season and it makes me sad  crying  DC-9 should follow later.

Quoting JU101 (Reply 11):
livery issues

Hey, they don't have money for it!!
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Quoting JU101 (Reply 11):
Embraer 175 question

I have visited Embraer's website yesterday and JAT is not mentioned at all, so....
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JoKeR
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RE: JAT Airways At JFK?

Mon Aug 01, 2005 6:40 am

Quoting Aleksandar (Reply 13):
Average Serbian passenger should use JAT, according to Mrs. Prlja because it is a national product. Does it sound sane?

Ha ha ha, did she work at Crvena Zastava before.... that sounds like a Yugo sales phrase  dopey 
 
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RE: JAT Airways At JFK?

Mon Aug 01, 2005 6:53 am

JAT  Smile i miss seeing those 737s
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Aleksandar
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RE: JAT Airways At JFK?

Mon Aug 01, 2005 7:36 am

Quoting JoKeR (Reply 14):
Ha ha ha, did she work at Crvena Zastava before

Probably.... Anyway, like many hot shots there, she definitely lives isolated in a bubble.

Quoting JoKeR (Reply 14):
that sounds like a Yugo sales phrase

Come on, don't tell me you'd choose Mercedes or BMW isntead of almighty Yugo??  biggrin  No matter what you say, I'm sure that you simply love Yugo like we all do  cheerful 
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